[talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

Hi all, I’ve noticed many motorway shoulders in Australia (especially in Sydney) being mapped as cycle routes on OSM. Although this seems to be a common approach for motorways/other high-speed roads in Australia of which cycling is allowed on, I can hardly imagine it to be of any practical use

Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?

In addition to what others have mentioned here, you should also distinguish if it's a "place" or if it's a natural feature and tag accordingly. For example, Potts Point the "point" (natural=cape) as in the land that sticks out into the water body is mapped like

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

The most noticeable example in Sydney would be the M7 Shared Path (https://www.westlinkm7.com.au/about/shared-path ), which is a ~40km uninterrupted bi-directional path alongside the M7 Motorway with normally (though obviously not currently)

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

It’s certainly true that some people rely on motorway routes (I agree that the solution for family-friendly routes would be a different renderer, until conditions change in Australia). However, regarding the bike symbol on the M2 on the Mapillary example, it’s designed to be a sign of caution

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

I think it's a fair argument to say it's not an actual route (but still designated bicycle infrastructure since it's signposted), I can see arguments both ways. On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 19:27, Dongchen Yue wrote: > It’s certainly true that some people rely on motorway routes (I agree that > the

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

Hi Dongchen, In my view route=bicycle should be used where signage indicates a "route" through one or more connecting paths, so that includes: 1. The white painted bicycle stencils on the road with directional arrows indicating the suggested route for bicycles. These are common on quiet

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

Example of a dedicated bicycle crossing on a motorway entry ramp on the M2 in Sydney https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/3HCnt9rSnC2Z9OLn0GSslA and on the M7 in Sydney https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/JGrFtWbs5DYbMywYpVetoA. The M7 Shared Path is is a completely different thing, it's a shared path

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

I have bicycled on the M2. I much prefer it the the alternative that has a lot of up and down, dangerous cross streets where some drivers assume right of way over bicycles and a less direct route. There are people who commute to and from work on it, if there were a convenient safer route they

Re: [talk-au] Practicality of mapping high-speed motor-traffic routes as cycle routes

Hi everyone, I’m very new to OSM so can’t comment on the technicalities but to add some data to the question of frequency of usage, the Strava heat map shows that the M1 and M2 are among the most frequently ridden roads in Sydney, by those cyclists who log their tracks in Strava. A biased