Re: [talk-ph] GPS track collector tip: NLEX Marilao Exit

2010-08-12 Thread maning sambale
I also notice that the full stretch of NLEX is not centered to the public traces: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4884592855_a6dbfb1332_b.jpg Doesn't really matter much but perhaps others can look into it in detail. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hmmm... is it possible to place everything else without an explicit Garmin hex code to a catch-all generic POI category? That would make everything that has a name searchable in the Garmin map. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11,

Re: [talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-12 Thread maning sambale
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... is it possible to place everything else without an explicit Garmin hex code to a catch-all generic POI category? This is done on two features as well, building=yes and shop=* for all those shops I can't find a

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2010-08-12 Thread maning sambale
Dear dominique28, Thanks for reporting this. I am open to adding residential polygons to the garmin map, however, there are lot of data inconsistency at the moment. Villages/subdivision names are tagged either as: 1. point, place=hamlet 2. point, place=village 2. area, landuse=residential We

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-08-12 Thread Ivo De Broeck
2010/8/11 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com Renaud MICHEL wrote: Le mercredi 11 août 2010 à 13:26, Ben Laenen a écrit : You could fill in the roles of those nodes in the relation of course. I've even seen the bus stop nodes being numbered, so you'd get something like stop_15 as a role.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-08-12 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Ivo De Broeck ivo.debro...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand this. I have used Potlatch and have put in disorder all members of the relation. Then i have used the relationchecker and all members came in the right way. This was for a oneway buss-route. The

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi all, finally a new step in the licensing process: you now can voluntarily agree to the new contributer terms at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms Check http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms_Summary to see what it actually means compared to the old terms. Note

[OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributo terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-12 Thread Markus
Why couldn't this be added to CT Section 3 saying. If the OSMF does decide to change the licence, any existing data that may then not be compatible will need to be removed. Would this then make cc-by existing data compatible with the new licence? Markus_g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributo terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
25, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Why couldn't this be added to CT Section 3 saying. If the OSMF does decide to change the licence, any existing data that may then not be compatible will need to be removed. Would this then make cc-by existing data compatible with the new licence? I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions on the Contributors Term

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:02 PM 11/08/2010, David Groom wrote: 2) Where does PD data (mainly TIGER, NHS, NPS, NAIP imagery, USGS imagery) fall with regards to contributor terms, specifically You have **explicit** permission from the rights holder to submit the Contents and grant the licence below?' The general

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions on the Contributors Term

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org; David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: OSMF License Working Group le...@osmfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributor terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-12 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: At 02:58 PM 12/08/2010, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal review from OSMF's lawyers... Yes. Our initial desire was to have something very short, more in-line with what is now the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: Yahoo aerial imagery is supplied under some terms (sorry too lazy to look them up right now). Sometime in the past someone(s) from within the OSM project asked them if tracing from those images to make a map was possible within those terms. They answered:

Re: [OSM-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: d isinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com writes: hi, after checking the 'in addition make pd' box, is there a way to 'uncheck' that box if we change are mind at a later date? say, if i discover more information that would make me change my mind. (i can with google photos, as an

[OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
i followed the link under my settings Contributor Terms: You have not yet agreed to the new Contributor Terms. Please follow this link at your convenience to review and accept the new Contributor Terms. in the top paragraph there is this section “Please read the following terms and

[OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Collinson
As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing [1] has begun, and you may indicate your acceptance of the new Contributor Terms for your existing OSM API account. To accept the terms visit

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Peter Körner
Am 12.08.2010 10:18, schrieb Martin Fossdal Guttesen: i followed the link under my settings i can’t find either a “Accept” or “Decline” button, just a “Agree” button what to do ? Leave it unchecked, close the browser page or go one page back. Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-12 Thread TimSC
On 11/08/10 21:56, Liz wrote: There are a list of questions which have not been answered whether on osmf- talk or legal-talk or talk. I also find that is a problem with the mailing list, and when I contact the working groups. No definitive answer is provided, usually the discussion gets

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Hughes
On 12/08/10 09:18, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: in the top paragraph there is this section “Please read the following terms and conditions carefully and click either the 'Accept' or 'Decline' button at the bottom to continue.” i can’t find either a “Accept” or “Decline” button, just a

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-12 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: So the newbies have chosen to join this mailing list, so they at least have seen the list of mailinglists. Why didn't they join legal? or dev= because they're not interested in those topics, they have enough to do with mapping their village.

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Matt Williams
On 12 August 2010 09:18, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing  [1]  has begun, and you may indicate your acceptance of the new Contributor Terms for your

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Matt Williams
On 12 August 2010 11:01, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: On 12 August 2010 09:18, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing  [1]  has begun, and you

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
What can I do I agree to relicense my stuff under ODbL, but I can't agree with CT Section 3? I hoped LWG will think about removing it, but it seems that relicensing is already started without investigating complain about section 3. Cheers, Peter. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Matt Williams
On 12 August 2010 11:18, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: What can I do I agree to relicense my stuff under ODbL, but I can't agree with CT Section 3? I hoped LWG will think about removing it, but it seems that relicensing is already started without investigating complain about

Re: [OSM-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thanks, So we have clarified my question. (2 responses on the main talk list and some IRC chat), but because of the bulk messages, it might have gotten lost) It is clear that there are 2 separate questions being asked. The 1st part is a 'yes i agree' only answer ... which is fine. In order to

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Dave F.
On 12/08/2010 09:18, Mike Collinson wrote: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2... Am I going blind? I can see no 'decline' button, only 'accept'. Obviously users can just close the page, but that doesn't give a clear representation

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[Apologies for continuing cross-post, please follow-up to OSM legal-talk.] Sam Vekemans wrote: So my question is weather or not, at a later date, I can change my choice (based on new information which would want me to change my mind).? As a general point, if you declare that something is

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Matt Williams
On 12 August 2010 11:39, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:  On 12/08/2010 09:18, Mike Collinson wrote: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2... Am I going blind? I can see no 'decline' button, only 'accept'. Obviously users can

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begin

2010-08-12 Thread Markus
On 12 August 2010 11:18, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: What can I do I agree to relicense my stuff under ODbL, but I can't agree with CT Section 3? I hoped LWG will think about removing it, but it seems that relicensing is already started without investigating complain about

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begin

2010-08-12 Thread Matt Williams
On 12 August 2010 11:58, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: On 12 August 2010 11:18, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: What can I do I agree to relicense my stuff under ODbL, but I can't agree with CT Section 3? I hoped LWG will think about removing it, but it seems that relicensing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thread closed: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: [Apologies for continuing cross-post, please follow-up to OSM legal-talk.] Sam Vekemans wrote: So my question is weather or not, at a later date,  I can change my choice (based on new information

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
To all contributors. I'm sorry to have to urge you to not agree to the CT terms, but please consider the points below. Please note that this is not a question of whether ODBL is the right way to proceed, but is merely comments on the current contributor terms which you are being asked to

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Brian Quinion
I really want to be able to click 'Agree' and 'make it PD' but section 1 worries me as it states that I agree to only add Contents for which [I am] the copyright holder. This seems to preclude me being able to add any data I've imported from an outside source (like tracing from OS Street

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread MP
In the specific case of the OSM database, if you wanted to start doing this, you would probably need to establish a per-object licensing flag. This would require significant code changes and I assume you're not volunteering to do that. We can assume that user won't change his/her mind too

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:06, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I have 2 accounts and can easily make the preference clear in my user profile description. Will there be a process to transfer ownership of a changeset between accounts if data is submitted under the wrong

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] ODBL vote (was Re: Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people)

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:52, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: In the specific case of the OSM database, if you wanted to start doing this, you would probably need to establish a per-object licensing flag. This would require significant code changes and I assume you're not volunteering to do that.

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the streets in (say) Canberra On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Grant Slater wrote: There is also a plan of action if people are found to be making these sorts of abusive edits. I can

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Peter, Do you know what will happen if I do not agree with the CT permanently? Cheers, Julio Costa On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 12.08.2010 10:18, schrieb Martin Fossdal Guttesen: i followed  the link under my settings i can’t find either

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributo terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Hughes
On 12/08/10 13:58, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal review from OSMF's lawyers... Who do you think wrote them?!? Normal humans don't write like that! Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Julio, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: Do you know what will happen if I do not agree with the CT permanently? In the long run there will be generally no room in OSM for data which has not been added under CT. It is possible for OSMF to make exceptions for individual cases, e.g. if you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Hughes
On 12/08/10 12:51, Brian Quinion wrote: Could you point to the document from OS that gives explicit permission? I would love to find such a document. It's here: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/licence/docs/licence.pdf Unfortunately it does not, as far as I can see,

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Brian Quinion
On 12 August 2010 14:37, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 12/08/10 12:51, Brian Quinion wrote: Could you point to the document from OS that gives explicit permission?  I would love to find such a document. It's here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Hughes wrote: Which is clearly in conflict with the CTs which require you to grant OSMF a license to sublicense any data you upload under a license of their choosing subject only to a constraint that the license they choose is open and free which clearly does not restrict their

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Thank you Frederik. That is our exact case. All of the suburban highways data was imported with two personal accounts (long time ago, with no knowledge of the best practices for those kind of processes). Do you know who will be managing this inside the Foundation? Best Regards, Julio Costa On

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL Moderation

2010-08-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: How data in my village disappeared ? We've used totally legal sources compatible with OSM. I'm one of the most quantity data creator (in my town) and i realesed all my adds/modification as PD... If any of the other people who mapped your village don't agree to

[OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Toby Murray
I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't been rendered yet. After double checking tagging, relationing, etc I finally looked at munin[1] and noticed that yevaud stopped getting diffs almost 10 hours ago. Also, looking at the OWL status page[2], it isn't getting diffs

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Shalabh
Not sure whats wrong but a couple of streams I mapped 4-5 hours ago are not rendering as yet. Shalabh On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't been rendered yet. After double checking

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 12 August 2010 13:45:49 David Groom wrote: 1)   The last sentence of clause (1) of the contributor terms requires YOU to have EXPLICIT permission from the rights holder.  Please consider if you have this EXPLICIT permission, if you do not have it then  you CAN NOT agree to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 17:29, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't been rendered yet. After double checking tagging, relationing, etc I finally looked at munin[1] and noticed that yevaud stopped getting diffs almost 10 hours

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Toby Murray
Yes, nothing mapped within the last 10 hours has been rendered. Although the munin graph just started taking a nosedive so someone must have kicked something just now. I'm guessing it will take an hour or two more for everything to catch up though. Toby On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Shalabh

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Toby Murray
Yay! My lake is in the process of being rendered right now. Thanks for greasing the gears! Toby On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 12 August 2010 17:29, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to figure out why a lake I

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Shalabh
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Yay! My lake is in the process of being rendered right now. Thanks for greasing the gears! Toby Lucky you, I cant see the fruit of my labours yet. Patience is the greatest virtue! Shalabh On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: Yahoo aerial imagery is supplied under some terms (sorry too lazy to look them up right now). Sometime in the past someone(s) from within the OSM project asked them if tracing from those images to make a map was possible within those terms. They answered:

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread 80n
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Julio, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: Do you know what will happen if I do not agree with the CT permanently? In the long run there will be generally no room in OSM for data which has not been added under CT. This

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: [...] That said, the strategy adopted by OSFM is one that is calculated to load the bases in favour of enabling them to switch to ODbL eventually. They do not intend to ask the whole community to vote on whether there should be a switch. This is a sign of their

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-12 Thread Milo van der Linden
Please, if there's anything that you don't like, just ignore it, take your GPS go for walk/ride/journey. It really is that simple. Dave F. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Liz
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: [...] That said, the strategy adopted by OSFM is one that is calculated to load the bases in favour of enabling them to switch to ODbL eventually. They do not intend to ask the whole community to vote on whether there should be a switch.

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 12.08.2010 22:17, schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote: [...] That said, the strategy adopted by OSFM is one that is calculated to load the bases in favour of enabling them to switch to ODbL eventually. They do not intend to ask the whole community to vote on whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins On Thursday 12 August 2010 13:45:49 David Groom wrote: 1) The last

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Stephan Knauss
Grant Slater wrote: There were networking problem around 8:45am (BST) with planet.osm.org, this seems to have cause osmosis --read-replication-interval to lock. My replication script got also stuck. I wish someone could implement a timeout so after receiving no data for a certain time it

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Simon Biber
On 13/08/2010, at 8:17, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Firstly, as you say sometime in the past. So Yahoo gave permission when the project has a CC-BY-SA licence. The contributor terms allow the switching of the licence to a non-CC-BY-SA licence. So how can I possibly

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins On 13/08/2010, at 8:17, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi, I'll be brief: 1) License change good. Me happy with license change. 2) Check box (In addition to the above agreement, I consider my contributions to be in the Public Domain) bad. Easy to tick without reading. Looks like standard I have read, I agree. Steve

[OSM-talk] OpenCycleMap updating?

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, Wondering if anyone knows the current status of OpenCycleMap tile generation. Any idea when I could expect an update in my neck of the woods (Melbourne, Australia)? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenCycleMap updating?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Killian
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:47 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: Hi all, Wondering if anyone knows the current status of OpenCycleMap tile generation. Any idea when I could expect an update in my neck of the woods (Melbourne, Australia)? Steve Andy tweeted yesterday that his new server just

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenCycleMap updating?

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Great, I'll keep an eye out. Steve On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Adam Killian vi...@bonius.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:47 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: Hi all,   Wondering if anyone knows the current status of OpenCycleMap tile generation. Any idea when I could expect an update in

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Great post, and excellent honeytrap: all the poisonous people flocked immediately to this thread and started debating it furiously. Some points: - verbosity/spamminess *is* disruptive. It takes a lot of time to read, and invariably someone will respond, causing more posts. Worse, it causes

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Freek
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 09:45:54 Foppe Benedictus wrote: Oi oi, mag ik dan ook wensen dat er een pagina komt voor de wandelnetwerken? Ik weet eigenlijk niet hoeveel daarvan is, maar in Twente hebben we er 1 in ieder geval ;), deze hebben neem ik aan dezelfde tagging schema als de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Wimmel
2010/8/11 Lennardl...@xs4all.nl: even iets anders; zullen we de knooppuntennetwerken qua naam op lijn zetten? Op dit moment zijn er grofweg 4 vormen: FRN, Fietsroutenetwerk, Wat mij betreft doen we alleen de naam, zonder al die voorvoegsels. De tagging geeft al aan wat het is, en zelf heb ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Foppe Benedictus
On 12-08-10 08:18, Freek wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2010 09:45:54 Foppe Benedictus wrote: Oi oi, mag ik dan ook wensen dat er een pagina komt voor de wandelnetwerken? Ik weet eigenlijk niet hoeveel daarvan is, maar in Twente hebben we er 1 in ieder geval ;), deze hebben neem ik aan

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Foppe Benedictus
Excuus dat ik niet in 1 keer volledig kan reageren On 12-08-10 08:18, Freek wrote: On Wednesday 11 August 2010 09:45:54 Foppe Benedictus wrote: Oi oi, mag ik dan ook wensen dat er een pagina komt voor de wandelnetwerken? Ik weet eigenlijk niet hoeveel daarvan is, maar in Twente hebben we

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
Ik zie dat het tagging schema anders is, lijkt me ongewenst. Ik heb in Twente wel het schema van de fietsnetwerken als leidraad genomen, deze lijkt mij voordelen te hebben boven het oude. Wat je daar ziet is het oude taggingschema, zoals het eerst ook voor de fietsknooppunten was. Het nieuwe

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Foppe Benedictus
On 12-08-10 09:36, Lennard wrote: Ik zie dat het tagging schema anders is, lijkt me ongewenst. Ik heb in Twente wel het schema van de fietsnetwerken als leidraad genomen, deze lijkt mij voordelen te hebben boven het oude. Wat je daar ziet is het oude taggingschema, zoals het eerst ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
En nu dus ook in Rotterdam !! Name = Rotterdam RCN 33 Zo je mijn hint in een vorig bericht nog niet begrepen had: waarom hiervoor geen note=* gebruiken? Dat zou in 1 klap deze hele discussie overbodig kunnen maken. Zeker als die fix in JOSM die ik eerder liet zien, geïmplementeerd zou zijn.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
On 12-08-10 09:36, Lennard wrote: Tijd voor een wiki update dus :) De twee redenen dat ik het zelf nog niet gedaan had, hebben te maken met de acceptatie van het schema voor fietsknooppuntennetwerken ten eerste, en de iets afwijkende situatie in Twente als tweede. Hoe kunnen we die variant

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Op de knooppunten zelf staat in NL meestal geen bord met het nummer van het knooppunt, of zelfs nooit? Dus in jouw theorie zou je dat nummer ook niet kunnen mappen in een samengestelde name=* ? :-) Hoeveel fotos met nummer wil je ? Ik hel elk knooppunt gefotografeerd. In haaglanden, Rotterdam

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 12 August 2010 05:39:04 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Staat in koeieletters op het bord. Bord is fysiek, en heeft een geofunctie. En een naam. Ga jij ook al die blauwe borden aan het begin van de bebouwde kom mappen met place=... en name=Roterdam/Delft/...

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Maarten Deen
zouden willen. Op de knooppunten zelf staat in NL meestal geen bord met het nummer van het knooppunt, of zelfs nooit? Dus in jouw theorie zou je dat nummer ook niet kunnen mappen in een samengestelde name=* ? :-) In mijn ervaring in Limburg staan die borden er (op een hoogst enkele

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
Hoeveel fotos met nummer wil je ? Ik hel elk knooppunt gefotografeerd. In haaglanden, Rotterdam en Midden-Delfland hebben ze allemaal een eigen nummer erop. Dan zwak ik mijn bewering af. In mijn omgeving hebben de knooppunten zelf alleen maar de nummers van de te bereiken punten erop, maar

[OSM-talk-nl] Borden mappen

2010-08-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Goed idee, stond al op de agenda. Ik dacht ook aan een verkeersbordenproject, een lantaarnpalen project en een rioolputdekselproject. Kunnen we koppelen aan de openrioolkaart.nl Regards, Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-nl-boun...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
De knooppuntnodes zou je op deze manier kunnen toevoegen aan de routerelatie. Routerelaties uit het hart van het netwerk zou je op de gok kunnen toevoegen aan de netwerkrelatie, maar aan de rand van het netwerk is dat allemaal niet zo simpel als het lijkt. Zit Midden-Delfland ook zo raar verweven

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] overzichtspagina LF routes

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
ja, bovendien zijn een flink aantal knooppunten van eigenaar veranderd.. Gelukkig zaten ze nog niet in een relatie ;). Het geeft je weer wat te doen. Wat is de reden van de overdracht? Kunnen de betrokken organisatie geen bruikbaar overzicht leveren aan geïnteresseerde, hergebruikende burgers?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Borden mappen

2010-08-12 Thread Rob
Ah gelukkig ben ik niet de enige die putdeksels boeiend vind ;) Rob Op 12 augustus 2010 12:35 heeft ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl het volgende geschreven: Goed idee, stond al op de agenda. Ik dacht ook aan een verkeersbordenproject, een lantaarnpalen project

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Borden mappen

2010-08-12 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Rob wrote: Ah gelukkig ben ik niet de enige die putdeksels boeiend vind ;) Ik snap niet dat jullie beide bij commerciele instellingen werken ;) ambtenarij had echt wat voor jullie kunnen zijn ;) Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing

[OSM-talk-nl] Vrijwillige aanmelding voor nieuwe licentie

2010-08-12 Thread Henk Hoff
Beste mensen, Aangezien Nederlanders in de regel wel Engelse tekst kunnen lezen, heb ik me even de moeite bespaard om bijgaande tekst te vertalen ;-) Het komt erop neer: Iedereen kan nu zijn akkoord geven voor de nieuwe gebruikersovereenkomst (Contributor Terms) mbt de OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vrijwillige aanmelding voor nieuwe licentie

2010-08-12 Thread Lennard
On 12-8-2010 20:43, Henk Hoff wrote: Beste mensen, Aangezien Nederlanders in de regel wel Engelse tekst kunnen lezen, heb ik me even de moeite bespaard om bijgaande tekst te vertalen ;-) Het komt erop neer: Iedereen kan nu zijn akkoord geven voor de nieuwe gebruikersovereenkomst (Contributor

[talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread Richard Weait
News today from Mike Collinson, Chair of the OSMF License Working Group: As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing [1] has begun, and you may indicate your acceptance of the new Contributor Terms

[talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Nick Hocking
I haven't read all the posts regarding this matter so maybe I have missed some clarifications but It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the streets in (say) Canberra and then failed to agree to a re-licence, then all those streets in Canberra would be thrown

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread David Groom
Its really disappointing that the introductory paragraph which says Please read the agreement below and press the agree button to confirm that you accept the terms of this agreement for your existing and future contributions. does not containing any warning that if you have used any source

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 12:28, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: It seems as though if someone ran a bot to add just one tag to most of the streets in (say) Canberra and then failed to agree to a re-licence, then all those streets in Canberra would be thrown away in their entirety (or

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:28, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Have I got this right or am I worrying too much? It's unclear what will happen at this point, since no one has the chance to actually disagree any more, although there was a thread about what to do about people that aren't

[talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Nick Hocking
Thankfully worrying too much. We have the full history of all changes, his edits would not be carried across (unwound) but the existing data if approved for ODbL would be carried across. There is also a plan of action if people are found to be making these sorts of abusive edits. There is a full

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 13:05, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Ok - just to clarify. If I've edited a road then the bot does it's thing and then I make further improvements, the bots effect can be automatically  removed without losing either of my edits. I don't know the details yet,

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
Nearmap as far as I know haven't agreed to the new Contributor Terms (CTs) or the ODBL, so anyone that has traced anything from Nearmap isn't able to agree to the new license, doing so would put you in breach of contract with Nearmap which would also breach clause 1 on the new Contributor Terms.

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread Ben Last
I'd just like to mention that we have our lawyers looking at the CTs and the licences (in fact I was in a long meeting about that just yesterday) and we'll be responding to the LWG shortly. After that I hope we'll be able to make our position clear on the mailing lists. Regards Ben -- Ben Last

Re: [Talk-br] Ajuda com boundaries

2010-08-12 Thread Rafael Gassner
Entendi. Funcionou! Muito obrigado Abraço 2010/8/12 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com Você pode tomar como exemplo as divisas entre municípios. Cada fronteira entre duas cidades é um caminho. E cada cidade tem uma relação que utiliza as respectivas fronteiras. A única coisa

Re: [Talk-de] Animierte Gifs

2010-08-12 Thread Peter Körner
Am 10.08.2010 09:22, schrieb Jacques Nietsch: Hallo, wenn man Tracks hochlädt, findet man im Web (z.B. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jacques_N/traces/765574) hübsche animierte Gifs. Mit welchem Tool sind die gemacht? Wo kann man das Tool bekommen? Weiß das jemand? Der Ruby-Code der diese

Re: [Talk-de] Lastenseilbahn. Auf ein Neues!

2010-08-12 Thread NopMap
Sven Geggus wrote: Wir sollten das Ganze also ins Wiki und in diverser Renderer einbauen. Steht schon auf der Todo-Liste für die Wanderkarte. bye Nop -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Lastenseilbahn-Auf-ein-Neues-tp5413956p5415265.html Sent

[Talk-de] Nochmal meine Track / POI-Karte

2010-08-12 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! ich habe gerade nochmal gebastelt und jetzt werden meine Tracks und POI's angezeigt - bei den Tracks sogar die PopUps der Tracks. Da war beim Zusammenkopieren der Funktionen eine Datei auf der Strecke geblieben ! http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index_new.php?id=8000 Falls es Dir

[Talk-de] Sorry - falsch addressiert !

2010-08-12 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

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