Re: [Talk-ru] Совет

2012-02-20 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
присоединюсь. Нет - почитаю потом логи. К. On 21.02.2012 11:14, Кирилл Zkir Бондаренко wrote: Ну среда тебе в принципе подходит? -Original Message- From: Kirill Bestoujev [mailto:bestou...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:40 AM To: talk-ru@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk

[OSM-talk] All countries extracts

2011-09-06 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Dear All! I'm currently truing to create a system to produce extracts of all countries of the world and maintain them in an up-to-date state. The extracts are created by cutting the planet with osmosis. The polygons used are made from countries borders taken from OSM. Please have a look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Vincent, could you please explain why do you need to keep France border in the way it is now? What is the purpose? I see no benefits of such a structure, could you show them to me? K. On 26.08.2011 16:40, Vincent Pottier wrote: Le 26/08/2011 14:23, Kirill Bestoujev a écrit : Hi, I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Piren, good to hear you have a tool for that. I'll try to get it and adopt it to my needs (but I already see a problem - I have no python installed on the server where I need to use this tool.) And Regarding the complexity - Russian border is 5 (or even more) times longer than French, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Extract a polygon into a polygon filter file format

2011-08-26 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Ok, convinced. Kirill On 26.08.2011 17:57, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Kirill Bestoujevbestou...@gmail.com wrote: And Regarding the complexity - Russian border is 5 (or even more) times longer than French, but still we do not split it into pieces... It's not a problem of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Collective database

2011-06-07 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
cheers, Henk Op 06-06-11 13:46, Kirill Bestoujev schreef: Frederik, thanks for the reply. Do we have somewhere a more detailed description of collective database relating to OSM situation? May be some lawyers opinion or something else? Previously we were looking at the situation in a different

[OSM-legal-talk] Collective database

2011-06-06 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Hi everybody! I have a question on the collective database under odbl. The case: a navigation software uses data from two sources - the information on roads and buildings from a source under ccbysa, and all the rest - water, forest, borders, poi, landuse - from OSM. The map is prepared by a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Collective database

2011-06-06 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
is not very clear, so we would like to clarify the situation as deep as possible. Kirill On 06.06.2011 15:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 06/06/11 12:56, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: The resulting map (a single file) contains data from both sources. Can this resulting map (which is a database by its inside

Re: [OSM-talk] Error on boundaries + issues with Abkhazia/South Ossetia/disputed territories

2010-09-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
The question was discussed on the Russian osm-forum, we decided to leave the borders as they are now, not to start a war of edits with Georgian osmers, as Georgia does not recognize Abkhazia or South Osetia as independet countries. I think it would be wise to leave it as it is now not to create

Re: [OSM-talk] User Juergenian vandalism

2010-07-18 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
His own or old ones? 2010/7/19 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com: There are two new changesets today on the northern coast of Russia. Looks like he deleted 7 ways. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Anthony onehalf3...@gmail.com wrote: Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: As I know Anthony

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered to Russian Federation. Neither USSR, nor Russian Federation ever transferred those maps to public domain

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Purchasing stolen maps does not make them public domain... 2010/6/24 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered to Russian Federation. Neither USSR, nor Russian Federation ever transferred those maps to public domain or in any other way allowed free use of them. Most of that maps were stolen

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
So you want to say that you do not care for those osm-users, which are in Russia and which may have problems using osm with copyright data in it? Did I get you right? K. 24 июня 2010 г. 13:56 пользователь jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com написал: I think you should

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-24 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
This is only possible if those countries are nt members of international copyright treaties. Russia (and USSR) and UK - are members of those treaties. So same laws apply. And by the way I am 100% sure that in UK stolen and later sold copyright materials are not treated us public domain. K.

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered to Russian Federation. Neither USSR, nor Russian Federation ever transferred those maps to public domain or in any other way allowed free use of them. Most of that maps were stolen from exUSSR military bases in republics,

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
There are no rules in OSM. So my personal opinion is that we do have right to discuss anything we want about our country in out own language and you do not have any f*cking right to call it substandard. Kirill, from Russia. 2010/5/7 Patrick Petschge o...@petschge.de: Hi, My personal opinion:

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
+0400, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: There are no rules in OSM. That is not entirely true. So my personal opinion is that we do have right to discuss anything we want about our country in out own language and you do not have any f*cking right to call it substandard. You can

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
be treated as a discussion, nothing more. K. 2010/5/7 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 7 May 2010 12:32:28 +0400, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: Did I say 'decide'? No. As we have seen from previous discussion in forum and on this list THERE ARE NO RULES ON HOW TO MAP IN OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-06 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
And so what? 2010/5/6 Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de: Hi all, judging from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:ВикиПроект_Россия/Голосования/Государственная_тайна (see http://tinyurl.com/2cx9v9h for english version) and http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=6905p=3 (see

Re: [OSM-talk] Military objects in RU: warning about status of voting

2010-04-17 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Frederik, there are NO bots, it's just Upliner fantasy. But there were some people on the complaining side who were discussing creation of bots for osm wiki :) But they decided not to do it and to accuse others of doing that - talking is always easy, doing - hard. Please do not pay any attention

Re: [OSM-talk] Military objects in RU: warning about status of voting

2010-04-17 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Edit war with bots is not a way of solving problems... If you do not understand that - then my words about small kids were more than right... That's very sad... K. 2010/4/17 Upliner upli...@gmail.com 2010/4/17 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: Please do not pay any attention

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
2010/4/12 Komяpa m...@komzpa.net Second, a bit about Wikimapia. Wikimapia: 1) is a project that is hosted in Russia and by russian citizens One more lie: P address: 67.220.205.212 Host name: wikimapia.org Alias: wikimapia.org 67.220.205.212 is from United States(US) in region North America

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has any meaning at all in an argument. Komzpa is out of reach of Russian state authorities. Russian citizens

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-11 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
2010/4/11 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com I'd like to suggest that you take down the forum post pointing people to mass-vote on the OSM wiki. How we decide things as a project isn't a function of how many people you can convince to mass-register for the wiki. This was a call not to

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-30 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
Oh my God It is terrible!!! We all gona die! What is the problem? Did Google just once start a trial agains anyone using GM images in violation of ToS? Just once? No. Why? They really don't care. Look at wikimapia. Don't the violate GM ToS for several years? They do. Why doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-30 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
the trial, cause loosing would meen that everyone will know they were wrong! That's all I was talking about. WBR, Kirill 2009/10/30 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com On 30/10/2009 14:38, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: Oh my God It is terrible!!! We all gona die! What is the problem? Did