Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-10-01 Thread Glenn Plas
Hi, comments below On 01-10-17 15:06, Yves bxl-forever wrote: > Hello, > > It may be a good idea to freshen up the pages on the wiki to remove all > confusion about this. > Perhaps we could summarize all the discussions as such. > > > 1) If a street is one-way for motor traffic but open to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-10-01 Thread Yves bxl-forever
Hello, It may be a good idea to freshen up the pages on the wiki to remove all confusion about this. Perhaps we could summarize all the discussions as such. 1) If a street is one-way for motor traffic but open to cyclists in both direction, we use this: oneway=yes

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 30. 09. 17 à 18:36, joost schouppe a écrit : > I think everyone agreed that this is nothing more than "maquillage" not me, not always :) > https://www.google.be/maps/@50.8674422,4.3297542,3a,60y,141.06h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srWr6HwmC8P9LgEfOSk2Xpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 this traffic

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread joost schouppe
We also discussed this quite extensively on Riot. I think everyone agreed that this is nothing more than "maquillage", but that the proper tag for this maquillage is in fact shared_lane. > Jo: we could use shared_lane, but then we either have to do that on all highways where bicycles aren't

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread Glenn Plas
On 30-09-17 08:13, Jo wrote: > True, we could use shared_lane, but then we either have to do that on > all highways where bicycles aren't banned, or we go on with that as the > de facto standard. > > The fact that a bicycle is drawn, doesn't make it 'more' of a shared > lane than it would be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread Jo
It definitely is not always permitted to ride a bicycle against the flow of traffic on oneway streets. The law was changed at some point to allow administrations to create oneway streets where bicycles are allowed in both directions, but it's not for all oneway strees. Jo 2017-09-30 11:56

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread Marc Gemis
I thought was always allowed to drive in the opposite direction under Belgian law. What does not mean that a sign to remind car drivers is welcome. m. On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 9:19 AM, marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > Le 29. 09. 17 à 22:42, eMerzh a écrit : >>

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 29. 09. 17 à 22:42, eMerzh a écrit : > https://www.google.be/maps/@50.8674422,4.3297542,3a,60y,141.06h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srWr6HwmC8P9LgEfOSk2Xpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 imho the bike painted in the opposite direction to what appears to be a one-way street is intended to warn that

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread Jo
True, we could use shared_lane, but then we either have to do that on all highways where bicycles aren't banned, or we go on with that as the de facto standard. The fact that a bicycle is drawn, doesn't make it 'more' of a shared lane than it would be without the wasted paint. All it does is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-30 Thread Marc Gemis
cycleway=shared_lane https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway#Shared_cycle_lanes note that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shared_lane says nothing about any required legal status. m. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:42 PM, eMerzh wrote: > hi, > > i

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-09-29 22:46, eMerzh wrote: > just another example a little more cycleway... > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=GnblTsSKolUsjQ6URC0zyg=photo=50.86767032=4.3280441=17=0.510308202857=0.4999=0 > > but still for me the delimitations are not really clear ... and > calling that

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-29 Thread Jo
It's not only in Brussels that they had leftover paint. Maybe it would have been better if they had drawn some flowers... They are indeed meaningless as far as traffic rules go. I guess they only mean something to the politicians who decided to draw them. Polyglot 2017-09-29 22:56 GMT+02:00

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-29 Thread Wouter Hamelinck
Ah, Brussels where they think that painting cycles randomly in streets and on sidewalks results in cycling infrastructure. It is very simply. The meaning of those painted cycles is the same as when they would have painted flowers or hearts or something; none whatsoever. It doesn't mean anything.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-29 Thread eMerzh
just another example a little more cycleway... https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=GnblTsSKolUsjQ6URC0zyg=photo=50.86767032=4.3280441=17=0.510308202857=0.4999=0 but still for me the delimitations are not really clear ... and calling that a cycleway seems. unfair :p 2017-09-29

[OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

2017-09-29 Thread eMerzh
hi, i stumble upon some streets that have small cycles drawn on the street now and then, and often there are small dashed line at the start or the end of the street, but tagging those as cycleway seems a bit weird as there are no clear delimitations... How to you tag thoses? An example :