Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-23 Thread Tim Couwelier
The problem is - whenever you try and get changes for the renderer - the argument is they don't feel they should change the renderer to try and influence the tagging. They care about rendering 'the tags that actively get used'. Be very carefull how you pitch the argument, or it'll instantly get a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-22 Thread marc marc
Le 23. 02. 18 à 07:44, Karel Adams a écrit : > Whence my repeated question: where or with whom can this be discussed? the tagging mailing for the schema https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging github to use a current schema https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-22 Thread Karel Adams
Glenn, hebt ge me wel goed gelezen? There is not the slightest need to convince me we should not map for the renderer. There's a bunch of mappers, especially in France but also one in Italy, who vehemently remove the "aeroway=aerodrome" tag from small airfields. When I reinstate it, they will

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-22 Thread marc marc
HEllo, Since the rendering is aware of the problem and its answer is "there's a schema missing able to be used." : - make a fork of rendering is useless if the data does not exist - it is enough to make a proposed feature to fill the gap. Regard, Marc Le 22. 02. 18 à 10:41, Glenn Plas a écrit 

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-22 Thread Glenn Plas
Mapping for the renderer is de facto wrong and what you experience now (in france etc.) is the endresult of that attitude.  I don't understand why you get discouraged on OSM because of a map you don't like.   It's like saying:  "I don't contribute to Wikipedia anymore because when I print a page

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-01-19 Thread marc marc
to avoid the egg and chicken problem, I think it's best to work on both ends. 1) work on a taginfo proposal to distinguish between a large airport and a small one. it can be based on the proposal I mentioned earlier. or based on some of the existing tags your are talking about. it can also go

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-01-19 Thread Karel Adams
Marc, thanks for the reply. Only the arguments (not yours! I will not shoot at the messenger! at the contrary!) do not hold true. Several hundred minor fields have been tagged with either "aeroway:airstrip" or ("aeroway:aerodrome" AND "aerodrome:airstrip"). The first are not rendered at all,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-01-19 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 19. 01. 18 à 16:43, Karel Adams a écrit : > distinct symbols for (bigger) airports, > (smaller) airfields, and glider fields I found this old propal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Aerodrome I like importance=international/national/regional like for railway.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-01-19 Thread OSMDoudou
I don't know for sure, but the rendering on openstreetmap.org is called OpenStreetMap Carto and to request improvement I think you file a bug report on their github. [1] See also [2] and notice the brief "Reporting Issues" guidance mentions providing a screenshot and a link. [2] [1]

[OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-01-19 Thread Karel Adams
When I first consulted maps - paper-only, at that time, of course - the famous Michelin 1:20 had distinct symbols for (bigger) airports, (smaller) airfields, and glider fields. As of 2018, the generic map of openstreetmap has only a single icon to represent anything mapped with