Re: [Talk-GB] British Waterways

On 07/12/2020 12:52, SK53 wrote: but other operators too Also note that British Waterways Marinas Ltd has now become Aquavistq Waterside Ltd ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Hull road renamed after rugby league star - BBC News

On 27/01/2018 13:21, Andy Mabbett wrote: Cool, but my question was "Does anyone have the coordinates, or the ID of the way, please?" Changeset: 55773434 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones

On 18/09/2017 11:03, Brian Prangle wrote: Does anyone have any experience of using drones? I once used a drone to map an inaccessible island in the Humber. The drone's camera can be pointed directly downwards, so I flew it around the island, keeping the high water mark in the centre of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Naming of places

On 17/08/2017 16:25, Chris Hill wrote: I'd like to replace the name=tag with Hull. +1 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[OSM-talk] Beware clickbait!

This topic seems to be infested with it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] GB Coastline - PGS vs OS

On 12/12/2016 09:42, Stuart Reynolds wrote: sand is shown all the way out to the end of the pier A practical solution to tidal beach areas is to map them as two areas with a common bound, that being the MHW nominal coastline. The areas above MHW can optionally carry the tag "tidal=no", but

Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks

On 02/06/2016 10:10, Jez Nicholson wrote: I'm guessing that the Malcolm H. responding here is the Malcolmh OSM User involved with openseamapif so, could you tell us whether seamark tags are specifically for known/acknowledged navigation objects or whether anything visible from the sea can be

Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks

On 01/06/2016 17:37, Brian Prangle wrote: If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag for hulk Those tags are not suitable for the objects described in the OP. All the categories of seamark:type=hulk are floating objects, whereas the Purton Hulks are beached &

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Piers vs Docks

On 11/03/2016 17:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: By the way, we recently had a discussion on tagging@osm about quay, pier etc. : That discussion was about the various mooring structures. The OP refers to the US-en usage of the word "dock", which is applied to any mooring

[OSM-talk] License files

What is the preferred filename and wording of a license file to be distributed with files that have been derived from OSM data? The copyright page on the Wiki seems to only refer to tiles, not any other form of derived data. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

On 27/07/2015 20:23, Jochen Topf wrote: This is more about the water flow than about being navigable by a ship. Indeed. Given that the waterway tagging rules cited in the OP applies equally to streams, ditches drains, then the routability clearly does not imply navigability, merely

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging concert / music hall

Some concert halls: Albert Hall, London: attraction=music_venue Concertgebouw, Amsterdam: amenity=theatre Gewandhaus, Leipzig: theatre:genre=philharmonic Musikverein, Vienna: amenity=concert_hall Philharmonie, Berlin: amenity=theatre Symphony Hall, Birmingham: building=concert_hall Clearly a

Re: [OSM-talk] Broken coastline

On 11/05/2015 18:01, pmailkeey . wrote: Where should the coastline be ? HWM, LWM or MW. What about islands that only appear at low tide ! The most common definition is mean high water - spring tides (MHWS) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

On 21/04/2015 18:08, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Are what's presently tagged elsan_point /both/ walk up toilets /and/ CDP chemical holding tank emptying points? And do they welcome waste originating from Elsan-based motorhomes as well as canal boats? This is going to vary from point to point.

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

On 22/04/2015 08:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out The only safe assumption is (2)

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers these use cases. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

On 21/04/2015 10:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: In the UK is the Elsan trade name used for both the mobile toilet and the fixed spot to empty it? It appears the intent of the elsan_point tag in the UK was the later ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELRMqFZKM ). Yes. This dates from the days when

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

On 16/03/2015 00:16, Rob Nickerson wrote: Not necessarily as fixing the tag could also result in the data being rendered therefore making it more visible for people to come in and fix (if a local community of OSMers exists). Other non-destructive actions might me to include key capitalisations

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

I found several cases of a key being duplicated with various capitalisations: instead of this they are mostly like This or THIS. Could somebody make a bot to clean these? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

On 25/02/2015 07:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: I think in many cases the proper action to perform on an object with a FIXME tag that has a low chance of ever getting addressed is deletion. +1 Though just as blind mechanical imports should not be done, so blind mechanical deletes should also

[OSM-talk] API down

Are the powers-that-be aware that the API is down? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] API down

On 02/02/2015 09:01, Tom Hughes wrote: We're aware that it was down, and that it was fixed two hours ago. OK, so next question: Why has planet replication stopped? Last minutely update was at 01:15. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Quay

On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: man_made=quay anyone ? To quote the IHO dictionary: quay. A WHARF approximately parallel to the SHORELINE and accommodating ships on one side only, the other side being attached to the SHORE. It is usually of solid construction, as contrasted

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon

On 07/12/2014 12:17, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Do Google know something we don't? It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon

On 07/12/2014 12:39, Malcolm Herring wrote: It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ... and on our map! http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/413600880 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Fix waterway direction

On 28/08/2014 19:49, Peter Barth wrote: A more detailed description can also be found on my user diary here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Peda/diary/23632 Your statement that canals may flow uphill is incorrect. Where canals pass over a summit, the water supply is fed into the topmost

[OSM-talk] Whatever became of xybot?

It used to perform the valuable service of removing leading and trailing spaces in tags. No longer, it appears. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Life Ring - British English

On 16/06/2014 10:30, Richard Mann wrote: en-gb is probably lifebuoy Also lifebelt is commonly used. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Life Ring - British English

On 16/06/2014 10:30, Richard Mann wrote: en-gb is probably lifebuoy Also lifebelt is commonly used. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo Updates

The Values/Combinations/Map/... links do not do anything in my browser (Firefox 29) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo Updates

On 19 May 2014, at 09:10, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: You probably just have an old Javascript file cached or so. Try Shift-Reload in the Browser. That hit the spot. Thanks! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] man_made=quay ?

On 13/05/2014 20:57, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: there are only 70 man_made=quay There are also 106 instances of man_made=wharf. The IHO treat quay and wharf as synonyms. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

I ran your query on my server and it completed in 90 seconds, even though another big query was already running. True, I do use an SSD for the database, so it is very fast. However, it proved that there is nothing in your query that gives Overpass indigestion. The public servers do run a

Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_the_United_Kingdom: For dialling the United Kingdom from overseas, Ofcom and ITU-T recommendation E.123 states that numbers be written in the form: Number Location +44 20 London +44 29 Cardiff +44 113

Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags

On 05/05/2013 14:25, sk53.osm wrote: I propose to tidy up some shop=* tag values. Synonyms fine but not specific products/services to generic ones as this deletes useful information. e.g: Shops that do key cutting are rarely locksmiths. sandwich shops are a subset of fast food shops, as are

Re: [Talk-GB] Missing place=city nodes: Manchester, Leeds

On 28/04/2013 09:49, Nick Whitelegg wrote: don't know Leeds well enough to know what might be thought of as the centre. Leeds Town Hall would the most suitable. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

On 26/04/2013 00:32, Roy Jamison wrote: Doesn't happen in a democratic society, which OSM embodies. Actually, OSM is more akin to an anarchic society - there is no government to enforce laws, instead we rely on all citizens to self-police. This requires a much higher level of personal

Re: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org

On 21/02/2013 15:05, Jason Remillard wrote: - Boating/Water recreation layer The water sports layer that is currently in OpenSeaMap could use a wider audience. This covers all sport=... features that are in-water as well as the whitewater features. The current location is somewhat obscure

Re: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org

PS: See http://map.openseamap.org/map/?zoom=14lat=54.42942lon=10.2249layers=BFFTFFF0FF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Fowey estuary coastline problem

On 30/01/2013 08:00, Jason Woollacott wrote: Does anybody know if a new coastline will be generated soon? as this should address the problem. There is often a very a long time lag for coastline re-rendering, sometimes several weeks. Because of this long cycle time, it is a good idea to

Re: [OSM-talk] Change to ODbL imminent

On 11/09/2012 17:16, Richard Weait wrote: About thirty hours later, that newly-generated planet file will be available What news? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-Planet

On 14/09/2012 18:04, Pavel Melnikov wrote: The page 'http://planet.openstreetmap.org/' still says planet created 2 weeks ago. Is it The new planet? That refers to the last weekly planet. The new planet is at the bottom of the page: planet-120912.osm.bz2

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

Our principal product is a street map. A street map is used to navigate in unfamiliar places. The names on the map must correspond with names on a street signs, signposts, etc. so that strangers may verify their position. So it is nothing to do with 'official' languages. The map needs to

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

Our principal product is a street map. A street map is used to navigate in unfamiliar places. The names on the map must correspond with names on a street signs, signposts, etc. so that strangers may verify their position. So it is nothing to do with 'official' languages. The map needs to

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

On 25/07/2012 10:21, Tom Hughes wrote: Actually our principle product is open geodata, not a rendered map. Point taken, but it does not alter my argument that the data in the database should correspond to the world as it is, not the world that we may prefer it to be.

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction progress

But maybe the RF was suggesting that we swap our GPS sets for shovels and all get out there to dig rectangular continents? This may sound a daunting task, but it is nothing compared to getting all OSM members to agree to a change in the DB license!

Re: [Talk-us] U.S. inland waterways

On 17/05/2012 19:24, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Basically I'm tagging general characteristics of waterways. It seems the categories will be: *maintained for deep draft ocean vessels *maintained for shallow draft barges and pleasure boats *not maintained, possibly open to pleasure boats I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap

Frans, Our website is: http://www.openseamap.org Our map is to be found at: http://map.openseamap.org/map/ Information about tagging sea chart features is at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap/Seamark_Tag_Values Our SourceForge project is:

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap

On 17/05/2012 13:08, Frans Thamura wrote: I install seamap, it is using google map and opensea content I do not understand what you mean by seamap and opensea. OpenSeaMap is a web-based map that overlays our renderings over the OpenStreetMap Mapnik map. Nothing needs to be installed, nor

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap

Aha! All is now clear! It looks like this app overlays OpenSeaMap tiles over the Google map. So, unless the above assumption is incorrect, the relationships are: OSM db - OpenSeaMap tileserver - ***Open Sea App*** - Google Maps ___ talk mailing

Re: [Talk-us] U.S. inland waterways

On 17/05/2012 03:44, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/16/2012 10:42 PM, Dale Puch wrote: You might check with the OpenSeaMap guys Surely at one of them is paying attention to tagging@? Nathan, Yes, we are paying attention! What is it that you wish to map? If it is for inclusion in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.95

Is the query format backward compatible? All my queries are returning empty: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? osm version=0.6 generator=Overpass API noteThe data included in this document is from www.openstreetmap.org. It has there been collected by a large group of contributors. For

Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts

These are warning beacons to mark the line of reefs. The appropriate OpenSeaMap tagging would be: seamark:type=beacon_special_purpose seamark:beacon_special_purpose:category=artificial_reef seamark:special_purpose_beacon:shape=pile seamark:light:colour=whatever the colour of the light is

Re: [Talk-GB] Tags for waterways

On 31/01/2011 21:54, Chris Moss wrote: 2. That page says issues include is it navigable by powered craft? but I can't find the relevant tag. Key:boat only relates to access as far as I can see, not to the type of boat. This could be canoe, rowing boat, powered boat, ship, ... Is this important?

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

On 20/01/2011 05:59, Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. The gaps are most likely due to missing boat=yes tags. I noticed that one river I mapped had a couple of gaps sure enough,

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

On 20/01/2011 13:56, martyn wrote: In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional

Re: [Talk-hr] Open Sea Chart - I don't get it

On 15/01/2011 09:10, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://wn.com/27c3_Safety_on_the_Open_Sea_en I really don't get this guy, why is he starting new project when OpenSeaMap is already there?!? I watched his talk but I just don't get his motives. If anybody gets his points please explain. He

Re: [OSM-talk] Beaches at lower zoom levels

Steve Bennett wrote: Out of curiosity, where do you get this low- and high-tide data from anyway? On aerial photos it's pretty hard to see anything except where the water happened to be at the time of the photo. In the UK, OS Street View has the MHW line. You can put this in WMS overlay on

Re: [OSM-talk] Beaches at lower zoom levels

Alan Mintz wrote: Are coastlines supposed to be on the low-tide position, high-tide position, or middle of the beach? I've been gluing the low-tide side of beaches to coastline on the few I've edited, since their position suggested that was the intent. The usual convention (Ordnance

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

I found a wonderful motto at the top of the user page of one of the OSM system administrators, TomH: I don't give a flying monkey's for tag voting, automatic changebots, endless discussions, categories, or any of that crap, but prefer to get on and actually do stuff. This echoes my

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

on one scheme or another since it has no impact on the map. Therefore the proposal vote are moot. Malcolm Herring ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

Andreas Labres wrote: Continuing dispute between the two groups I was suggesting that a state of peaceful co-existence can be achieved - Our editors will not alter or remove tags that are not ours, and hopefully this will be reciprocated. and become productive (get nice renderers, get

Re: [OSM-talk] Marine taggine/OpenSeamap

Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Don't you think that we shouldn't put the lighthouse also on that page? Everything is there: light vessel, float, major, minor lights. I think we could put the lighthouse also there. You are right. I have now done it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Marine taggine/OpenSeamap

Aun Johnsen wrote: PS These tags are documented in german only, what about those OSMers that doesn't understand german, are we forced to use google translate to ready tag descriptions? If it was documented in english at least more of us could understand it and maybe even contribute with

Re: [OSM-talk] Marine taggine/OpenSeamap

Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Ok, we should be able to solve this problem ;) I started a translation: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lighthouse_Datamodel The German version now exists twice. I'm not sure how to cleanup this in the wiki yet without breaking some link dependencies. Beacons

Re: [OSM-talk] Marine taggine/OpenSeamap

Bernhard, The * is a wild card for the light number. The Render Hint has one additional parameter, the suggested radius of the sector arc that will appear on the chart. All the previous items are to create the annotation. You are correct about the limited range of seamarks available. As I said,

Re: [OSM-talk] Marine taggine/OpenSeamap

Bernhard, The OpenSeaMap data model definitions are contained in three files: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tonne/Datenmodell http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bake/Datenmodell http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Leuchtfeuer/Datenmodell You will note that all the key/value pairs