Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-12 Thread Marc Gemis
Sorry, for bringing up this topic in the first place. I thought that a new consensus on mapping regional mapping networks was reached, since an experienced mapper was using it. While I understand that there are pros and cons on the documented method and Gerard's method, I continue to use the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-12 Thread Jo
Hi Marc, 2011/10/12 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com Sorry, for bringing up this topic in the first place. I thought that a new consensus on mapping regional mapping networks was reached, since an experienced mapper was using it. Don't feel sorry. The only way to get forward and improve is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-12 Thread Jo
Oops, hadn't seen Eimai's message on trac and added one of my own: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4017 No idea if this will resolve anything, but we can at least try. Cheers, Jo ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 02:46:35 Gerard Vanderveken wrote: I believe the Wiki should be changed and in stead of the node tag, a name or ref tag should be used. We've talked about this issue so often now, and we keep having the same problem with the name or ref tags: it's not those routes'

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 13:05:30 Jo wrote: I suppose the ref tag might be more appropriate. It is indeed a bit odd to use note for it, OTOH that's the only tag that was used consistently in all the 1000s of relations I've seen so far... Me removing the names on those route relations made

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Jo
2011/10/11 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com On Tuesday 11 October 2011 13:05:30 Jo wrote: I suppose the ref tag might be more appropriate. It is indeed a bit odd to use note for it, OTOH that's the only tag that was used consistently in all the 1000s of relations I've seen so far... Me

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 15:21:47 Jo wrote: Maybe the fact that this discussion seems to recur every so often is an indicator that something is not logical about it. Since these routes ultimately have to be entered by people and these people make a choice, which is not easily altered (I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Ben Laenen wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2011 15:21:47 Jo wrote: Maybe the fact that this discussion seems to recur every so often is an indicator that something is not logical about it. Since these routes ultimately have to be entered by people and these people make a choice, which is not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Ben Laenen wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2011 16:49:00 Gerard Vanderveken wrote: We want to tag for the people and for usabillity. The current reasoning is flawed. -The route between 2 points in a network has no name, so we do not tag a name in OSM. Congratulations. Now if only we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-11 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 19:58:39 Gerard Vanderveken wrote: If you don't want to use the name tag, because that name might be rendered, and then put it in the note tag, you are also tagging for (against) the renderers. Exactly as the objection of Eimai is in the trac

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-10 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 10 October 2011 21:19:56 Marc Gemis wrote: I use both openwandelkaart and Lonvia to check my edits. Recently, I noticed that some walking networks are rendered differently in Lonvia. The routes have a rectangle with 2 characters (ZD - Zuid-Dijleland and KH - Kempische Heuvelrug).

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Regional walking networks

2011-10-10 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Ben Laenen wrote: On Monday 10 October 2011 21:19:56 Marc Gemis wrote: I use both openwandelkaart and Lonvia to check my edits. Recently, I noticed that some walking networks are rendered differently in Lonvia. The routes have a rectangle with 2 characters (ZD - Zuid-Dijleland and KH -