OSM is no alternative to StreetView. It's an alternative to Google Maps
though.
So I don't think we should react. We should just spread the word of OSM on
a continuous base. Apart from that, if OSM would suddenly get in the big
media, we would also have a lot of problems with training newbies.
I think you are right in saying that we should not try to force the issue.
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.comwrote:
Sorry to go off topic, but...
2011/11/24 Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com
So I don't think we should react. We should just spread
People tend to judge the book by the cover and not by the content.
In this respect OSM is no match to StreetView. So, we should not try to
profilate us against it.
It will only cause disbelief and leaves OSM with a stamp of
inferiority, because there is not the bling bling of StreetView.
2011/11/24 Gerard Vanderveken g...@ghia.eu:
People tend to judge the book by the cover and not by the content.
In this respect OSM is no match to StreetView. So, we should not try to
profilate us against it.
It will only cause disbelief and leaves OSM with a stamp of inferiority,
because
Hello à tous,
Ici en belgique, google viens de rendre disponible streetview je sais
que en France ça fait un bout de temps que c'est disponible mais voila
:)
La question reviens naturellement sur l'utilisation de StreetView pour
récolter des informations pour osm.
Bien évidemment, les
Hello,
Selon moi, on peut utiliser les immages seulement pour découvrir des
erreurs (et controler ces erreurs localement avant de télécharger les
corrections).
2011/11/23 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com
Hello à tous,
Ici en belgique, google viens de rendre disponible streetview je sais
que en
If you want to stick strictly to OSM best-practices, you CANNOT use data
that you have collected from Google StreetView and use it in OSM.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners_Guide_1.1
Tim
2011/11/23 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com
Hello,
Selon moi, on peut utiliser les immages
2011/11/23 Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk:
If you want to stick strictly to OSM best-practices, you CANNOT use data
that you have collected from Google StreetView and use it in
OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners_Guide_1.1
Which is a ridiculous guideline. Copyright is on
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From: Pieren pier...@gmail.com
Date: 2011/11/23
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] StreetView?
To: Discussions sur OSM en français talk...@openstreetmap.org
2011/11/23 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com:
Bien évidemment, les images ne sont pas toute jeune même c'est du même
acabit que les
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Date: 2011/11/23
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] StreetView?
To: Discussions sur OSM en français talk...@openstreetmap.org
2011/11/23 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com:
Bien évidemment, les images ne sont pas toute jeune même c'est du même
acabit que les images bing
Hello à tous,
Ici en belgique, google viens de rendre disponible streetview je sais
que en France ça fait un bout de temps que c'est disponible mais voila
:)
La question reviens naturellement sur l'utilisation de StreetView pour
récolter des informations pour osm.
Bien évidemment, les
Le 23/11/2011 09:39, eMerzh a écrit :
Donc voilà, peut-on utiliser les images, dans quel mesure? ,..
Il est interdit de les utiliser pour en faire un produit dérivé
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Le 23 novembre 2011 10:31, Thomas Clavier t...@tcweb.org a écrit :
Le 23/11/2011 09:39, eMerzh a écrit :
Donc voilà, peut-on utiliser les images, dans quel mesure? ,..
Il est interdit de les utiliser pour en faire un produit dérivé
et concernant les licences j'ajouterai dans le doute,
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:31:50 +0100, Thomas Clavier wrote:
Le 23/11/2011 09:39, eMerzh a écrit :
Donc voilà, peut-on utiliser les images, dans quel mesure? ,..
Il est interdit de les utiliser pour en faire un produit dérivé
baaa, faut qu'on soit clair alors, j'ai posé la question pas plus
2011/11/23 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com:
Bien évidemment, les images ne sont pas toute jeune même c'est du même
acabit que les images bing.
Donc voilà, peut-on utiliser les images, dans quel mesure? ,..
Euh, j'ai pas compris si tu parles d'images aériennes (référence à
Bing) ou d'images prises
Donc si le doute est levé par ce message provenant de Google (usage
ponctuel ok, mais interdit en usage massif), plus besoin de s'abstenir...
ponctuellement bien sûr !
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Ok merci à tous pour vos réponses...
Donc voilà streetview oui mais parcimonieusement...ça me va :)
2011/11/23 Christian Quest christian.qu...@gmail.com:
Donc si le doute est levé par ce message provenant de Google (usage ponctuel
ok, mais interdit en usage massif), plus besoin de s'abstenir...
De : eMerzh
Ok merci à tous pour vos réponses...
Donc voilà streetview oui mais parcimonieusement...ça me va :)
2011/11/23 Christian Quest :
Donc si le doute est levé par ce message provenant de Google (usage ponctuel
ok, mais interdit en usage massif), plus besoin de s'abstenir...
Le 23/11/2011 16:16, Vincent de Chateau-Thierry a écrit :
Sur Paris, StreetView date (~2007), ce qui en fait une source
documentaire à manipuler avec beaucoup de pincettes. Je m'en sers pour
confirmer ponctuellement ma source principale (mon dictaphone), et
c'est souvent pour constater que ce
Le 23 nov. 2011 à 11:17, Pieren a écrit :
so checking the odd street names is OK.. but every street name I would
suggest would represent a bulk feed.
qu'on peut traduire approximativement par vérifier quelques noms de
rue est OK.. mais tous les noms de rues représenterait un usage
Just a quick follow up: apologies for the downtime overnight, when
changing around the locations of files on the server to prepare for
committing to SVN, I messed up one or two paths. Anyway it should work
again now.
Nick
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Hi,
(*posted to talk in case of interest, but all follow ups will be on the
Photos list*)
Having been, I have to admit, just a little impressed with the current
state of Google Street View in the UK (i.e. it's now complete), my
interest in developing StreetView for footpaths has been
Nice,
Will the source code be available in one of the svn repositories?
- The first thing I would like to see is a function to click a location
on a map to set lat/lon instead of entering it.
- Another would be to read EXIF information regarding coordinates
instead of entering it
About the
On 24 March 2010 04:50, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote:
Nice,
Will the source code be available in one of the svn repositories?
- The first thing I would like to see is a function to click a location
on a map to set lat/lon instead of entering it.
When I read the instructions,
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Nick Whitelegg
nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
Hi,
(*posted to talk in case of interest, but all follow ups will be on the
Photos list*)
cool
I uploaded a picture of Bogota, Colombia and wait for the confirmation.
greetings
Humano
Having been, I have to
/ to
get an idea of the required equipment.
Gert
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Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Nick Whitelegg
Verzonden: woensdag 24 maart 2010 11:43
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView: StreetView
Nice,
Will the source code be available in one of the svn repositories?
Yes, I've just added it (and the whole of Freemap) to the OSM SVN
repository
at
sites/www.free-map.org.uk/otv/
It is intended to gather panoramas by the way. Thanks for the suggestions.
Nick
This is certainly a nice project and a challenge to
do, but it would take out the fun of actually
walking /trailing if you are not surprised anymore
by the lovely view around that corner.
Though seeing the view for real is a bit different than seeing it on the
internet! ;-)
Also there are other
On 24 March 2010 13:25, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
You may say, don't use OTV if you want to be surprised, and you are
probably right.
So go on and make it. The fun is yours anyway taking the
pictures and walking the trail. ;))
You might take a look at
Hi,
I don't know whether anybody has already written about this here (I did
a quick search but couldn't find anything related). So here for those
who are interested:
In July there was an announcement on the german mailing list that a
Google-Streetview competitor allows openstreetmap
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get
stopped and told
we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers
up and just carry on
regardless. It is about time there was a level playing
field, and just
John Smith wrote:
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get
stopped and told
we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers
up and just carry on
regardless. It is about time there was a level playing
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
more inclusive than is necessary. So from my perspective
they ARE
intentionally going out of their way to invade privacy by
showing views that
are simply not normally visible? If we want to see what is
over a wall we can
now
their kit looks quite bulky. I've got just one videocamera (and no
LIDAR) fitted, and it all mounts on handlebars with room to spare for
other stuff.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georeference_video
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic?
other people
2009/7/30 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com:
their kit looks quite bulky. I've got just one videocamera (and no
LIDAR) fitted, and it all mounts on handlebars with room to spare for
other stuff.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georeference_video
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras
up above the traffic?
I guess they are recording in higher resolutions. The
problem with
I don't know what res street view in general is but you can't read most
John Smith wrote:
Sent: 30 July 2009 10:42 AM
To: OJ W; m...@koppenhoefer.com
Cc: OSM Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras
up above the traffic
OJ W wrote:
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic?
THAT I think is the big mistake that Google made. Pushing the camera head up
so that it looks OVER security walls and hedges is what annoys people the
most. If a person has to use a ladder to obtain a
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
OJ W wrote:
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the cameras up above the traffic?
THAT I think is the big mistake that Google made. Pushing the camera head up
so that it looks OVER security walls and hedges is what
Yann Coupin wrote:
The problem is that your reasoning doesn't take bus/coach/hgv into
account. You're probably going to be as high in each of those vehicules
as Google's cams are...
Not on many of the private roads that are now being photographed but from
which large vehicles are banned -
2009/7/30 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
Simply filming and saying 'we will remove pictures if you want' is just
arrogance that should not be condoned.
What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line dividing looking with
naked eye and filming? Since a camera is a set of light sensors and
Hi,
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
The idea of google streetview infringing anybody's privacy is so misled.
I'm sure there is lots of intelligent argument on both sides of the
fence and I have no desire of going into the details here.
But on a more general note - I think that someone's privacy is
I meant to send this to the list
As an idea for 'openstreetviewbike' you could use a single camera pointing
straight up with a rotating mirror above it in order to capture in all
directions at once.
The velocity of the bike would probably be OK to still capture pictures
with close enough
I meant to send this to the list...
What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line dividing looking with
naked eye and filming?
I think that the difference here is that they make the images available
for others to view. There can be a great difference between taking a
picture of a drunk,
As an idea for 'openstreetviewbike' you could use a single camera
pointing
straight up with a rotating mirror above it in order to capture in all
directions at once.
A colleague suggested using a hi-res camera shooting upwards onto a fixed
multi-angle mirror.
How much resolution do you need
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:51 PM, si...@mungewell.org wrote:
A Canon EOS Rebel, a few mirrors and some glue... might be an interesting
experiment.
The Canon 30D (for example) is rated for 100,000 shutter cycles. If you
take a shot every 1-10 seconds, you'll be able to go for roughly 6
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Ian Dees wrote:
That's why Google uses high-res digital video cameras running on Firewire on
their rigs.
I was more expecting the Elphel board design ;) Using 20MP kodak's CCDs
like they use in their book digitizing stuff.
Stefan
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, si...@mungewell.org si...@mungewell.org wrote:
What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line
dividing looking with
naked eye and filming?
I think that the difference here is that they make the
images available
for others to view. There can be a great difference
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:23 -0500
Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
The Canon 30D (for example) is rated for 100,000 shutter cycles. If you
take a shot every 1-10 seconds, you'll be able to go for roughly 6 straight
hours before the shutter will fail.
OK so how nerdy am I, just spent
John Smith wrote:
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, si...@mungewell.org si...@mungewell.org wrote:
What's wrong with it? Where's the exact line
dividing looking with
naked eye and filming?
I think that the difference here is that they make the
images available
for others to view. There can be a
This is very interesting and might be useful if at some point we get Google
to open up the license of their street view images:
http://fivebells.livejournal.com/24977.html
In other news, how's openstreetphoto doing?
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