Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Pierre Béland
J'ai ajouté short_name pour le Québec, mais je pense effectivement que c'est inutile à comparer avec Ontario. Dans ce cas, le ON fonctionne sans doute à cause de state_code=ON. Et effectivement, lorsque les relations de territoires sont ajoutées et fonctionnelles, les is_in et addr:province

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Pierre, This is a good idea, and I plan to do it.   My current challenge is to know what things people think "need correction".  I'm starting these discussions to see if there is any consensus before I go writing code.  If you (or anyone else) has ideas, please do post here (or email

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Searching on "110 Laurier Avenue West, on" in Nominatim already works (it finds Ottawa City hall) even though the address has no addr:province tag for City Halle.  So I don't think this is a good reason to be adding addr:province/addr:province:short_name tags. IMO.  Unless there is another use

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
J'ai fait recherche  «Toronto, On» Cela fonctionne. Peut-etre a cause de «state_code=ON»   Pierre Le samedi 10 mars 2018 15:39:53 HNE, john whelan a écrit : So you're suggesting adding short_name='ON' to ones that have addr:province=Ontario How would that

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
Non, inutile si relations. Dans relation province d'Ontario- ajouter short_name='ON'. De cette façon, Recherche Toronto, ON devrait fonctionner. A essayer :)   Pierre Le samedi 10 mars 2018 15:39:53 HNE, john whelan a écrit : So you're suggesting adding

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread john whelan
So you're suggesting adding short_name='ON' to ones that have addr:province=Ontario How would that work? addr:province=Ontario addr:province:short_name=ON ? Merci John On 10 March 2018 at 15:27, Pierre Béland wrote: > John, on doit essayer d'être plus intuitif et permettre

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
John, on doit essayer d'être plus intuitif et permettre les deux façons de rechercher. Cela peut se faire simplement en ajoutant dans la relation province d'Ontario, short_name='ON'. Pour revenir aux suggestions de Matthew, de façon à impliquer / motiver les communautés locales, ce serait

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread john whelan
For Ontario I would suggest following the post office guidelines for province and using ON rather than a mixture of ON and Ontario. That way it makes it easier to find an address since you just need to search for ON. Currently you would need to search for both variations. Cheerio John On 8 Mar

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Matthew, Tu fais du travail très louable. En même temps, il est important pour certains éléments de connaitre le contexte local. Chaque province a ses règles au niveau des noms et il y a du ménage à faire. Par exemple, il y a eu un import massif de noms à partir de la base GNS. Ces données ne

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-09 Thread James
is addr:province even needed? province boundaries are pretty well defined and could be dropped On Mar 8, 2018 11:28 PM, "Matthew Darwin" wrote: > > So I've tidied up the addr:province/state tags, now using only > addr:province, leaving anything that would be generally

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-08 Thread Matthew Darwin
So I've tidied up the addr:province/state tags, now using only addr:province, leaving anything that would be generally considered "correct" either spelt out in full or using English provincial abbreviation as you might use in a mailing address. Also left "Quebec" (no accent). I would rather

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Hi Clifford, > > (It was good to meet you at SOTM US last year). > > Thanks for your comments... The situation with addr:city appears to me to > be more complex than the situation with addr:province/addr:country, along

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi John, If we want to be able generate mailing addresses from OSM (is that a valid use case?), then whatever the city address Canada Post thinks we are in needs to be tagged in some fashion.   Google maps and Bing maps both think I'm in "Kanata".  OSM thinks I'm in "Kanata North". Both are

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Matthew, Just one concern - Removing of addr:city. I encourage people to include addr:city since it's part of their mailing address and could easily be outside of the city limits. While addr:city isn't needed inside of city boundaries since it can be obtained from their spatial location, does make

[Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-16 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi all, During the discussion of cleaning up municipality names in Canada, it was suggested that the addr:city could be removed entirely if the appropriate boundaries are defined.   I would hazard to guess (and will endeavour to investigate) that the addr:city and the boundaries do not