Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Heather Leson 
Hello as mentioned under separate cover, Id like to connect one point of
contact who will try to heto

Thanks for being so detailed

Heather
On 10 May 2016 03:22, "James"  wrote:

> Seems the only way to contact them is via phone...and I doubt those lines
> will be mannedfor obvious reasons
>
> http://www.rmwb.ca/ContactUs.htm
> On May 9, 2016 8:14 PM, "Bernie Connors"  wrote:
>
> I believe the Wood Buffalo municipality has a buildings dataset. Can
> anyone get in touch with the municipal government to get the data?
>
> Bernie.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> *From: *Kunce, Dale
> *Sent: *Monday, May 9, 2016 1:24 PM
> *To: *James
> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
>
> Quick question would it be possible to add that all buildings should be
> traced. This is crucial for the damage assessment.
>
> Thanks
> Dale
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> Services |  American Red Cross
> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>
>
> From: Dale Kunce 
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM
> To: James 
> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
>
> Fantastic,
> I just joined the list today.
>
> Thanks
> Dale
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> Services |  American Red Cross
> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>
>
> From: James 
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
> To: Dale Kunce 
> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
>
> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
>
> I've created a HOT project here:
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:
>
>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
>> other places affected by the recent fires.
>>
>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to
>> do a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for
>> the area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of
>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>>
>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>>
>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in
>> helping or leading.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> —
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>> Services |  American Red Cross
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Heather Leson 
Morning from Doha.

As mentioned previously there are emergency managers trying to get imagery.
This is their first time considering digital volunteers. If I can have one
Canadian volunteer as a point of contact I can hand off the discussion.

Note: they would really love it if it was someone from alberta. However, i
think someone who can work on what is needed is also great.

Heather
On 10 May 2016 03:31, "James"  wrote:

> I doubt we could use this for validating as its creating a derived work
> and unless we have permission
> On May 9, 2016 8:20 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:
>
>> Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalo
>> josm tms[19]:
>> http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
>>
>> On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir
>> l'autorisation de la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles
>> avec carte OSM et imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans
>> OSM.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Pierre Béland 
https://twitter.com/rmwoodbuffalohttps://twitter.com/RedCrossAB 

https://twitter.com/redcrosscanada
 
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland 
 À : James ; Bernie Connors  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : lundi 9 mai 2016 20h52
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
   
http://www.rmwb.ca/ContactUs/Contact-Directory.htm  
Pierre 


  De : James 
 À : Bernie Connors  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : lundi 9 mai 2016 20h20
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
  
Seems the only way to contact them is via phone...and I doubt those lines will 
be mannedfor obvious reasonshttp://www.rmwb.ca/ContactUs.htmOn May 9, 2016 
8:14 PM, "Bernie Connors"  wrote:

 I believe the Wood Buffalo municipality has a buildings dataset. Can anyone 
get in touch with the municipal government to get the data?
Bernie.  
  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. 
|   From: Kunce, DaleSent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:24 PMTo: JamesCc: Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires |


Quick question would it be possible to add that all buildings should be traced. 
This is crucial for the damage assessment.
ThanksDale—Dale Kunce | Senior Geospatial Engineer and GIS Team Lead  | 
International Services |  American Red Cross2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 
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From: Dale Kunce 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM
To: James 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

Fantastic,I just joined the list today.
ThanksDale—Dale Kunce | Senior Geospatial Engineer and GIS Team Lead  | 
International Services |  American Red Cross2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 
20006Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​ 

From: James 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
To: Dale Kunce 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but there 
was a initiative started already within osm-canadaI've created a HOT project 
here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22But right now OSM is in read only mode as 
there is a scheduled maintenanceOn May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
 wrote:

The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the 
Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and other 
places affected by the recent fires.
As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a 
building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area 
except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for 
at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in 
the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite 
imagery will occur.
I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the 
OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or 
leading.
Dale
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Services |  American Red Cross2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006Tel 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Pierre Béland 
http://www.rmwb.ca/ContactUs/Contact-Directory.htm  
Pierre 


  De : James 
 À : Bernie Connors  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : lundi 9 mai 2016 20h20
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
   
Seems the only way to contact them is via phone...and I doubt those lines will 
be mannedfor obvious reasonshttp://www.rmwb.ca/ContactUs.htmOn May 9, 2016 
8:14 PM, "Bernie Connors"  wrote:

 I believe the Wood Buffalo municipality has a buildings dataset. Can anyone 
get in touch with the municipal government to get the data?
Bernie.  
  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. 
|   From: Kunce, DaleSent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:24 PMTo: JamesCc: Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires |


Quick question would it be possible to add that all buildings should be traced. 
This is crucial for the damage assessment.
ThanksDale—Dale Kunce | Senior Geospatial Engineer and GIS Team Lead  | 
International Services |  American Red Cross2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 
20006Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​ 

From: Dale Kunce 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM
To: James 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

Fantastic,I just joined the list today.
ThanksDale—Dale Kunce | Senior Geospatial Engineer and GIS Team Lead  | 
International Services |  American Red Cross2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 
20006Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​ 

From: James 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
To: Dale Kunce 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but there 
was a initiative started already within osm-canadaI've created a HOT project 
here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22But right now OSM is in read only mode as 
there is a scheduled maintenanceOn May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
 wrote:

The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the 
Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and other 
places affected by the recent fires.
As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a 
building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area 
except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for 
at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in 
the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite 
imagery will occur.
I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the 
OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or 
leading.
Dale
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread James 
I doubt we could use this for validating as its creating a derived work and
unless we have permission
On May 9, 2016 8:20 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:

> Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalo
> josm tms[19]:
> http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
>
> On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir
> l'autorisation de la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles
> avec carte OSM et imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans
> OSM.
>
> Pierre
>
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Pierre Béland 
Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalojosm 
tms[19]:http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir l'autorisation de 
la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles avec carte OSM et 
imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans OSM. 
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Bernie Connors 
  I believe the Wood Buffalo municipality has a buildings dataset. Can anyone get in touch with the municipal government to get the data?Bernie. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.From: Kunce, DaleSent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:24 PMTo: JamesCc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires





Quick question would it be possible to add that all buildings should be traced. This is crucial for the damage assessment.


Thanks
Dale


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From: Dale Kunce 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM
To: James 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires






Fantastic,
I just joined the list today.


Thanks
Dale


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From: James 
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
To: Dale Kunce 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires





Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
I've created a HOT project here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:




The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments
 in Ft. Mcmurtry and other places affected by the recent fires.




As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for at least a week or two but
 we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite imagery will occur.




I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.





Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or leading.




Dale





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 Geospatial Engineer and GIS Team Lead  | International Services | 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Pierre Béland 
Je crois aussi qu'il serait mieux d'avoir divers projets. Cependant, il faut 
planifier avant d'ajouter de nouveaux projet et de demander aux bénévoles, de 
passer des heures à contribuer à de tels projets. 

Pour motiver les contributeurs OSM à participer et maintenir la participation, 
Il est important de justifier la démarche, de déterminer ce qui sera vraiment 
utile en terme opérationnel pour supporter les équipes sur le terrain. Et de 
là, nous devons prioriser nos actions. 

En quoi sera utile ce travail, comment aidera-t-il au niveau opérationnel? 
immeubles ? adresses? etc

La carte interactive de la ville de Wood Buffalo contient les données 
cadastrales, incluant les immeubles et les limites de chaque terrain cela pour 
Fort McMurray, Anzac, Gregoire Lake, etc.  
http://view.rmwb.ca/#!/

Espérons que système de backup est assuré pour toutes la base de données et le 
serveur de la municipalité!

Infomatinos beaucoup plus précises et à date que ce que nous pouvons réaliser à 
partir d'imagerie Bing. Et des équipes spécialisées, incluant les compagnies 
d'assurance et les municipalités vont faire des évaluations au cours de 
prochaines semaines.  

La Croix-Rouge canadienne ne pourrait-elle pas simplement obtenir des infos 
directement des municipalités et de la Sécurité civile d'Alberta puisque 
celles-ci auront à coordonner ces évaluations? 
 Les adresses sont sûrement des infos utiles pour les équipes qui se déplacent 
sur le terrain. Elles ne sont pas affichée sur la carte de Wood Buffulo. Pour 
ajouter les adresses, nous pourrions utiliser les données d'interpolation de 
Geobase. Plus simple et rapide. Mais encore là, y a-t-il des sources 
disponibles déja, et peut-être pour chaque immeuble? C'est sans doute ce que 
les équipes veulent avoir pour mieux se repérer. Les municipalités ont sans 
doute une base de donnée adresse géolocalisée et très précise.
 
Pierre 

  
Pierre 


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 À : john whelan  
Cc : Paul Norman ; "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 

 Envoyé le : lundi 9 mai 2016 18h30
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
   
I've created two other projects as per your suggestion as blocking tiles for 
something that is so small in terms of the whole picture doesn't make sense.

For building outlines:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

For addresses and residential polygons:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/23

For validation(QA):
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/24  

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:45 PM, john whelan  wrote:

I mean how do we decide a tile is mapped?  Normally in HOT its when the list of 
things in the instructions are completed.

"
Also trace - Routes in the region   
   - Polygons around the residential areas in areas around Fort McMurray
   - Isolated buildings outside urban places
   - Names of missing roads
   - Addresses (via geobase)
Check Addresses are valid with GeoFabrik inspector tool"That's quite a lot for 
a tile, mapping buildings is one process, adding addresses is another, checking 
the addresses is yet another.Based on HOT experience its best to keep it fairly 
simple.  So I suggest:First project tile and map buildings.  This is a fairly 
simple task that a beginner with the JOSM building tool can do fairly well.
Second project tile and add addresses. This is more complex.
Third project tile GeoFabrick inspector tool.  This is even more complex.
You can have more than one set of tiles gridding the area.
Cheerio John

On 9 May 2016 at 17:36, James  wrote:

Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you mean 
building by building or CanVec interpolation?On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john 
whelan"  wrote:

Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add 
addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its difficult to 
say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't been added and 
that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?

Thanks John

On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:

If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building assessment 
I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on the lookout for 
it.

Dale
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On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:

>On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> Bernie,
>> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
>> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
>> we need to complete our work. I’m

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan 
I mean how do we decide a tile is mapped?  Normally in HOT its when the
list of things in the instructions are completed.

"

Also trace - Routes in the region

   -

   Polygons around the residential areas in areas around Fort McMurray
   -

   Isolated buildings outside urban places
   -

   Names of missing roads
   -

   Addresses (via geobase)

Check Addresses are valid with GeoFabrik inspector tool"


That's quite a lot for a tile, mapping buildings is one process, adding
addresses is another, checking the addresses is yet another.

Based on HOT experience its best to keep it fairly simple.  So I suggest:

First project tile and map buildings.  This is a fairly simple task that a
beginner with the JOSM building tool can do fairly well.

Second project tile and add addresses. This is more complex.

Third project tile GeoFabrick inspector tool.  This is even more complex.

You can have more than one set of tiles gridding the area.

Cheerio John

On 9 May 2016 at 17:36, James  wrote:

> Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you
> mean building by building or CanVec interpolation?
> On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>
>> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
>> addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
>> difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
>> been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
>> Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:
>>
>>> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
>>> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
>>> the lookout for it.
>>>
>>> Dale
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>>> International Services |  American Red Cross
>>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>>> >> Bernie,
>>> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>>> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
>>> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
>>> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
>>> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
>>> >> our needs for tracing.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
>>> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread James 
Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you
mean building by building or CanVec interpolation?
On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
> addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
> difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
> been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
> Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:
>
>> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
>> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
>> the lookout for it.
>>
>> Dale
>> —
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>> International Services |  American Red Cross
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>
>> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>>
>> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> >> Bernie,
>> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
>> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
>> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
>> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
>> >> our needs for tracing.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
>> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan 
Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?

Thanks John

On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:

> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
> the lookout for it.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>
> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
> >> Bernie,
> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
> >> our needs for tracing.
> >>
> >
> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building assessment 
I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on the lookout for 
it.

Dale
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On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:

>On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> Bernie,
>> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap 
>> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is 
>> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that 
>> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and 
>> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for 
>> our needs for tracing.
>>
>
>Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid 
>mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Paul Norman 

On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:

Bernie,
I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap 
unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is 
just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that 
we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and 
coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for 
our needs for tracing.




Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid 
mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
Bernie,
I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap unfortunately 
this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is just an tiled image and 
does not provide us with the vector data that we need to complete our work. I’m 
happy to take the lead and coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is 
good enough for our needs for tracing.

Thanks again for your help.

Dale
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From: john whelan >
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 2:58 PM
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
>
Cc: Dale Kunce >
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for buildings 
to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data sets we might be 
able to get hold of.  I'm thinking of using the Treasury Broad gateway which 
means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with the provinces and some 
cites on Open Data data sets.

Thanks John

On 6 May 2016 at 20:20, Bernie Connors 
> wrote:
Hello,

  Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see that 
the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use of our 
resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost anyone 
could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building damage.

Bernie.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
From: Kevin Farrugia
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Darren Ewaniuk
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires



There's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3 days, 
but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire?

Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The roads 
are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial capabilities and 
detailed data for official purposes, so the work would basically entail 
deleting burned down buildings.

I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data is 
going to be. :)

On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" 
> wrote:

Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed to Google / 
Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past allowed imaging for 
open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be able to do so here.


http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/

The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:

14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
15 - Waterways

16 - Waterways (North)

17 - Beacon Hill (North)

18 - Abasands

19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown



From: Heather Leson >
Sent: May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
To: Simon Wood
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the 
area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this decision 
with you.

Heather

On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" 
> wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
Simon.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan 
Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for
buildings to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data
sets we might be able to get hold of.  I'm thinking of using the Treasury
Broad gateway which means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with
the provinces and some cites on Open Data data sets.

Thanks John

On 6 May 2016 at 20:20, Bernie Connors  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>   Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see
> that the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use
> of our resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost
> anyone could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building
> damage.
>
> Bernie.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> *From: *Kevin Farrugia
> *Sent: *Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PM
> *To: *Darren Ewaniuk
> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
> There's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3
> days, but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire?
>
> Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The
> roads are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial
> capabilities and detailed data for official purposes, so the work would
> basically entail deleting burned down buildings.
>
> I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data
> is going to be. :)
> On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" 
> wrote:
>
>> Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed
>> to Google / Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past
>> allowed imaging for open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be
>> able to do so here.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/
>>
>> The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:
>>
>>
>> 14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
>> 15 - Waterways
>>
>> 16 - Waterways (North)
>>
>> 17 - Beacon Hill (North)
>>
>> 18 - Abasands
>>
>> 19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Heather Leson 
>> *Sent:* May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
>> *To:* Simon Wood
>> *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in
>> the area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it
>>
>> Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this
>> decision with you.
>>
>> Heather
>> On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood"  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
>>> > As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
>>> > Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
>>> > yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
>>> > Fort McMurray?
>>>
>>> You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
>>> be willing to donate access to footage.
>>> https://www.urthecast.com
>>>
>>> Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might
>>> be
>>> of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
>>> will tell you if/when they have near passes.
>>>
>>> They also have a live feed:
>>> https://www.urthecast.com/live
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread James 
Shouldn't be too long, operations team says the master DB is back up as of
2 hours ago
Source:
https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Kunce, Dale 
wrote:

> Ugh forgot about the Read Only.
>
>
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>
>
> From: James 
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:24 PM
> To: Dale Kunce 
> Cc: John Marshall , Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <
> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires
>
> It would definitely be possible, it's just as I've stated previously
> nothing can be done until OpenStreetMap maintenance has been completed
> (scheduled until tomorrow (GMT))
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kunce, Dale 
> wrote:
>
>> Don’t worry about the Red Cross coordination for now. I know them and can
>> work with them directly them.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
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>> International Services |  American Red Cross
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/9/16, 12:21 PM, "John Marshall"  wrote:
>>
>> >Dale,
>> >
>> >I have ask the CDN Red Cross in Ottawa several times if they would
>> >like the CDN OSM community to help. Happy to help.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >
>> >John
>> >
>> >On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James  wrote:
>> >> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
>> >> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
>> >>
>> >> I've created a HOT project here:
>> >> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>> >>
>> >> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled
>> maintenance
>> >>
>> >> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help
>> the
>> >>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry
>> and
>> >>> other places affected by the recent fires.
>> >>>
>> >>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit
>> to do
>> >>> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for
>> the
>> >>> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would
>> not
>> >>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping
>> all of
>> >>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
>> >>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>> >>>
>> >>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
>> >>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in
>> helping
>> >>> or leading.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dale
>> >>>
>> >>> —
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>> International
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
Ugh forgot about the Read Only.


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From: James >
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:24 PM
To: Dale Kunce >
Cc: John Marshall >, Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMap >
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

It would definitely be possible, it's just as I've stated previously nothing 
can be done until OpenStreetMap maintenance has been completed (scheduled until 
tomorrow (GMT))

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kunce, Dale 
> wrote:
Don’t worry about the Red Cross coordination for now. I know them and can work 
with them directly them.

Thanks again.


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On 5/9/16, 12:21 PM, "John Marshall" 
> wrote:

>Dale,
>
>I have ask the CDN Red Cross in Ottawa several times if they would
>like the CDN OSM community to help. Happy to help.
>
>Cheers
>
>John
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
>> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
>>
>> I've created a HOT project here:
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>>
>> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
>>
>> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
>>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
>>> other places affected by the recent fires.
>>>
>>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do
>>> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the
>>> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
>>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of
>>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
>>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>>>
>>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
>>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping
>>> or leading.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> —
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>>> Services |  American Red Cross
>>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | 
>>> Skype dkunce
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread James 
It would definitely be possible, it's just as I've stated previously
nothing can be done until OpenStreetMap maintenance has been completed
(scheduled until tomorrow (GMT))

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kunce, Dale 
wrote:

> Don’t worry about the Red Cross coordination for now. I know them and can
> work with them directly them.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> —
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> Services |  American Red Cross
> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>
> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/9/16, 12:21 PM, "John Marshall"  wrote:
>
> >Dale,
> >
> >I have ask the CDN Red Cross in Ottawa several times if they would
> >like the CDN OSM community to help. Happy to help.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James  wrote:
> >> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
> >> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
> >>
> >> I've created a HOT project here:
> >> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
> >>
> >> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled
> maintenance
> >>
> >> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
> >>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
> >>> other places affected by the recent fires.
> >>>
> >>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit
> to do
> >>> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for
> the
> >>> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
> >>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all
> of
> >>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
> >>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
> >>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in
> helping
> >>> or leading.
> >>>
> >>> Dale
> >>>
> >>> —
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> International
> >>> Services |  American Red Cross
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
Don’t worry about the Red Cross coordination for now. I know them and can work 
with them directly them.

Thanks again.


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On 5/9/16, 12:21 PM, "John Marshall"  wrote:

>Dale,
>
>I have ask the CDN Red Cross in Ottawa several times if they would
>like the CDN OSM community to help. Happy to help.
>
>Cheers
>
>John
>
>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James  wrote:
>> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
>> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
>>
>> I've created a HOT project here:
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>>
>> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
>>
>> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:
>>>
>>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
>>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
>>> other places affected by the recent fires.
>>>
>>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do
>>> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the
>>> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
>>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of
>>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
>>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>>>
>>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
>>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping
>>> or leading.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
Quick question would it be possible to add that all buildings should be traced. 
This is crucial for the damage assessment.

Thanks
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From: Dale Kunce >
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM
To: James >
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

Fantastic,
I just joined the list today.

Thanks
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From: James >
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
To: Dale Kunce >
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires


Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but there 
was a initiative started already within osm-canada

I've created a HOT project here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance

On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
> wrote:
The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the 
Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and other 
places affected by the recent fires.

As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a 
building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area 
except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for 
at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in 
the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite 
imagery will occur.

I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the 
OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.

Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or 
leading.

Dale

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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread John Marshall 
Dale,

I have ask the CDN Red Cross in Ottawa several times if they would
like the CDN OSM community to help. Happy to help.

Cheers

John

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James  wrote:
> Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
> there was a initiative started already within osm-canada
>
> I've created a HOT project here:
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
> But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
>
> On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:
>>
>> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
>> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
>> other places affected by the recent fires.
>>
>> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do
>> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the
>> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
>> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of
>> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
>> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>>
>> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
>> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>>
>> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping
>> or leading.
>>
>> Dale
>>
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>> Services |  American Red Cross
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
Fantastic,
I just joined the list today.

Thanks
Dale
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From: James >
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:16 PM
To: Dale Kunce >
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires


Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but there 
was a initiative started already within osm-canada

I've created a HOT project here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance

On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale" 
> wrote:
The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the 
Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and other 
places affected by the recent fires.

As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a 
building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area 
except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for 
at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in 
the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite 
imagery will occur.

I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the 
OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.

Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or 
leading.

Dale

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[Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread Kunce, Dale 
The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the 
Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and other 
places affected by the recent fires.

As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do a 
building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the area 
except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not happen for 
at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of the buildings in 
the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage assessment from satellite 
imagery will occur.

I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the 
OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.

Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping or 
leading.

Dale

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Re: [Talk-ca] Ft. McMurry Fires

2016-05-09 Thread James 
Hi Dale I'm not sure if you've been following this list previously, but
there was a initiative started already within osm-canada

I've created a HOT project here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

But right now OSM is in read only mode as there is a scheduled maintenance
On May 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Kunce, Dale"  wrote:

> The American Red Cross is potentially sending some teams to do help the
> Canadian Canadian Red Cross with damage assessments in Ft. Mcmurtry and
> other places affected by the recent fires.
>
> As part of the assessment we are potentially going to use OpenMapKit to do
> a building by building assessment. The OSM data looks pretty good for the
> area except that not all buildings are in OSM. The assessment would not
> happen for at least a week or two but we are interested in mapping all of
> the buildings in the affected area from pre-event imagery. No damage
> assessment from satellite imagery will occur.
>
> I’ve already let HOT know but it would be great to have support of the
> OSM-Canada community to help get the work done.
>
> Please let me know if this is something you would be interested in helping
> or leading.
>
> Dale
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca

2016-05-09 Thread James 
Seems to be back up for now:

http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:

> Looks like with all the shuffling of products, we've finally lost our
> /OSM/pub folder. Oh well.
>
> I guess that, since all the CanVEC data is now available under OGL-CA, the
> old agreement has been superseded. It would be lovely if everything on
> ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca were OGL-CA, 'cos there's some infrastructure data
> on there that would make me and my chums in the energy biz very happy to
> have on the map.
>
> cheers,
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Re: [Talk-ca] ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca

2016-05-09 Thread James 
If you remember what François Paquette sent on this list you wouldnt have
to send the email you just sent:

The CanVec data in OSM format will not be available from Thursday May 5,
1:00 p.m. to Tuesday May 10, 9:00 a.m. (Eastern Time). The maintenance
period may be modified, please refer to the GeoGratis

home
page.


On May 8, 2016 9:44 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:

> Looks like with all the shuffling of products, we've finally lost our
> /OSM/pub folder. Oh well.
>
> I guess that, since all the CanVEC data is now available under OGL-CA, the
> old agreement has been superseded. It would be lovely if everything on
> ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca were OGL-CA, 'cos there's some infrastructure data
> on there that would make me and my chums in the energy biz very happy to
> have on the map.
>
> cheers,
>  Stewart
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