Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[OSM Volunteer stevea]

Whoops, put a closing quote on the alias (I truncated an apostrophe at the end 
of that line).  And, of course, press return at the end of commands to the 
shell (command line interface).

After this, you can "go get plugins" and configure them as you like.  Now you 
are off and running JOSM on a Mac, I hope.

SteveA
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[Jonathan Brown]

Combination of bringing their own and facilitators from Durham Region using 
their work laptops. To simplify things, we could set up a few facilitators with 
JAVA-installed machines. 

From: john whelan
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 11:54 AM
To: James
Cc: Jonathan Brown; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

So one way would be to teach a subset of JOSM?
I had Carlton mapathon with new mappers do building outlines in JOSM, its very 
simple, fast and accurate a much better tool than iD for building outlines.  
However it does need JAVA on the machine and a few minutes set up.
Question to Jonathon who do the machines belong to?  If its the students own 
then ask them to install JAVA before they come and we can sort out some fairly 
simple instructions.  If they are provided then you may need to check the 
policy on what can be installed.
Cheerio John

On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James  wrote:
depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content error(tm is 
http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content. 

Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as it would 
try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port 8112 with no 
errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or JOSM(unless a user knows 
how to accept cert)

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown,  wrote:
It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of errors. We 
could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to demonstrate good 
practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29 mapathon?
 
Jonathan
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[john whelan]

So one way would be to teach a subset of JOSM?

I had Carlton mapathon with new mappers do building outlines in JOSM, its
very simple, fast and accurate a much better tool than iD for building
outlines.  However it does need JAVA on the machine and a few minutes set
up.

Question to Jonathon who do the machines belong to?  If its the students
own then ask them to install JAVA before they come and we can sort out some
fairly simple instructions.  If they are provided then you may need to
check the policy on what can be installed.

Cheerio John

On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James  wrote:

> depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content
> error(tm is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content.
>
> Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as it
> would try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port
> 8112 with no errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or
> JOSM(unless a user knows how to accept cert)
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown,  wrote:
>
>> It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
>> errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
>> demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
>> mapathon?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[john whelan]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_that_could_be_mapped

It's a bit understated but adding the type of building terrace, detached
etc and the number of stories is of great interest.  House numbers as well
if not present.

This is all boots on the ground or local knowledge stuff that cannot often
be done from imageryand there isn't a problem with the outlines being drawn
incorrectly.

This is the data that is simplest to map for new mappers and cannot be done
any other way.  The building outlines, well NRcan are looking at making
these available through the Federal government open data portal beside the
work that Stats can is doing.  To me accurate building outlines can be
brought in from Open Data perhaps not this month but in the foreseeable
future.

Cheerio John

On 23 March 2018 at 10:56, Jonathan Brown  wrote:

> It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
> errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
> demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
> mapathon?
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[john whelan]

Is there a browser that works?

Thanks John

On 23 March 2018 at 11:20, James  wrote:

> tested on ff, same issue boundary box no longer shows
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:18 AM john whelan,  wrote:
>
>> So firefox would be fine?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James  wrote:
>>
>>> depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content
>>> error(tm is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content.
>>>
>>> Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as
>>> it would try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port
>>> 8112 with no errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or
>>> JOSM(unless a user knows how to accept cert)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
 errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
 demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
 mapathon?



 Jonathan


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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[James]

tested on ff, same issue boundary box no longer shows

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:18 AM john whelan,  wrote:

> So firefox would be fine?
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James  wrote:
>
>> depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content
>> error(tm is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content.
>>
>> Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as it
>> would try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port
>> 8112 with no errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or
>> JOSM(unless a user knows how to accept cert)
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
>>> errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
>>> demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
>>> mapathon?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[john whelan]

So firefox would be fine?

Thanks John

On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James  wrote:

> depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content
> error(tm is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content.
>
> Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as it
> would try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port
> 8112 with no errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or
> JOSM(unless a user knows how to accept cert)
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown,  wrote:
>
>> It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
>> errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
>> demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
>> mapathon?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[James]

depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content error(tm
is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content.

Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke syncing with JOSM as it
would try to open up a self signed cert(not accepted by default) on port
8112 with no errors or feedback. So I either brake ID boundaries or
JOSM(unless a user knows how to accept cert)

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:01 AM Jonathan Brown,  wrote:

> It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of
> errors. We could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to
> demonstrate good practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29
> mapathon?
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

[Jonathan Brown]

It would be good to have a screen shot demonstrating these kinds of errors. We 
could use these screen shots of good and bad examples to demonstrate good 
practices. James, will the TM2 issue affect our March 29 mapathon?

Jonathan

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