Re: [Talk-ca] Grand-Montréal Utilisation de sidewalk pour cartographier pistes multi-usage

2020-03-10 Thread Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais 
Effectivement, ce sont des “faux” trottoirs sans séparation physique ou 
dénivelé avec la rue. Je vais les joindre au way de la rue sans problème!

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 16:49, Pierre Béland  wrote:
> 
> Bonjour Pierre-Léo
> 
> oui on voit bien le trottoir et je ne vois pas de problème à cet endroit pour 
> la piste vélo sur la voie publique, et la piste piéton sur le trottoir. 
> 
> Les problèmes sont plutôt à partir de la Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye. Pour 
> distinguer la piste vélo/piéton de la rue,  deux chemins parallèles sont 
> tracés. Le premier représentant la rue, highway=tertiary (id=42304636) réfère 
> avec une série d'attributs don use_sidepath au deuxième chemin (id=) qui lui 
> décrit la section en bordure de la rue pour les  piéton/vélos. 
> 
> Ce schéma est lourd et pourrait  être simplifié en enlevant les références 
> piéton/velo sur le chemin principal et indiquant sur le deuxième chemin 
> highway=footway, foot=designated, bicycle=designated de façon similaire à ce 
> que l'on retrouve sur le chemin, rue Saint-Joseph.  De même sur la rue 
> Saint-Joseph, on devrait enlever sur le chemin principal les références au 
> sentier piéton/vélo. 
> 
> Il serait aussi possible de tout garder sur un seul chemin. Mais je peux 
> comprendre que l'on préfère dissocier et utiliser deux chemins même si 
> ceux-ci se partagent la même chaussée.
> 
> 
> 
> rue Antoine De La Fresnaye
> 
> Chemin : Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye (42304636)
>   Attributs : 
> "sidewalk"="separate"
> "sidewalk:left"="separate"
> "lanes"="2"
> "maxspeed"="40"
> "name"="Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye"
> "sidewalk:right"="no"
> "highway"="residential"
> "foot"="use_sidepath"
> Et en parrallèle
> Chemin : 766531240
>   Attributs : 
> "highway"="footway"
> "maxspeed"="40"
> 
> Boulevard Saint-Joseph
> ---
> Chemin : Boulevard Saint-Joseph (683782639)
>   Attributs : 
> "sidewalk"="separate"
> "bicycle"="use_sidepath"
> "sidewalk:left"="no"
> "surface"="asphalt"
> "lanes"="2"
> "maxspeed"="60"
> "name"="Boulevard Saint-Joseph"
> "sidewalk:right"="separate"
> "highway"="tertiary"
> "foot"="use_sidepath"
> Et en parrallèle
> Chemin : Boulevard Saint-Joseph (766027404)
>   Attributs : 
> "name"="Boulevard Saint-Joseph"
> "bicycle"="designated"
> "highway"="cycleway"
> "cycleway"="lane"
> "foot"="designated"
> 
>  
> Pierre 
> 
> 
> Le mardi 10 mars 2020 13 h 36 min 03 s UTC−4, Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais 
>  a écrit :
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> Voici une photo aérienne haute résolution de l’endroit pour mieux évaluer le 
> contexte. C’est vraiment un cas particulier, car il y a aussi un trottoir à 
> droite. J’ai ajouté une note sur ce way.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Y0CsomNZLCEEVlX-CDHsv4yplKWxkLOJ 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Grand-Montréal Utilisation de sidewalk pour cartographier pistes multi-usage

2020-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca 
Bonjour Pierre-Léo
oui on voit bien le trottoir et je ne vois pas de problème à cet endroit pour 
la piste vélo sur la voie publique, et la piste piéton sur le trottoir. 

Les problèmes sont plutôt à partir de la Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye. Pour 
distinguer la piste vélo/piéton de la rue,  deux chemins parallèles sont 
tracés. Le premier représentant la rue, highway=tertiary (id=42304636) réfère 
avec une série d'attributs don use_sidepath au deuxième chemin (id=) qui lui 
décrit la section en bordure de la rue pour les  piéton/vélos. 

Ce schéma est lourd et pourrait  être simplifié en enlevant les références 
piéton/velo sur le chemin principal et indiquant sur le deuxième chemin 
highway=footway, foot=designated, bicycle=designated de façon similaire à ce 
que l'on retrouve sur le chemin, rue Saint-Joseph.  De même sur la rue 
Saint-Joseph, on devrait enlever sur le chemin principal les références au 
sentier piéton/vélo. 

Il serait aussi possible de tout garder sur un seul chemin. Mais je peux 
comprendre que l'on préfère dissocier et utiliser deux chemins même si ceux-ci 
se partagent la même chaussée.


rue Antoine De La Fresnaye

Chemin : Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye (42304636)  Attributs : 
    "sidewalk"="separate"
    "sidewalk:left"="separate"
    "lanes"="2"
    "maxspeed"="40"
    "name"="Rue Antoine De La Fresnaye"
    "sidewalk:right"="no"
    "highway"="residential"
    "foot"="use_sidepath"
 Et en parrallèleChemin : 766531240
  Attributs : 
    "highway"="footway"
    "maxspeed"="40"
Boulevard 
Saint-Joseph---
Chemin : Boulevard Saint-Joseph (683782639)
  Attributs : 
    "sidewalk"="separate"
    "bicycle"="use_sidepath"
    "sidewalk:left"="no"
    "surface"="asphalt"
    "lanes"="2"
    "maxspeed"="60"
    "name"="Boulevard Saint-Joseph"
    "sidewalk:right"="separate"
    "highway"="tertiary"
    "foot"="use_sidepath"
Et en parrallèle
Chemin : Boulevard Saint-Joseph (766027404)  Attributs : 
    "name"="Boulevard Saint-Joseph"
    "bicycle"="designated"
    "highway"="cycleway"
    "cycleway"="lane"
    "foot"="designated"

 
Pierre 
 

Le mardi 10 mars 2020 13 h 36 min 03 s UTC−4, Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais 
 a écrit :  
 
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  Voici une photo aérienne haute résolution de l’endroit pour mieux évaluer le 
contexte. C’est vraiment un cas particulier, car il y a aussi un trottoir à 
droite. J’ai ajouté une note sur ce way.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2020-03-10 Thread Daniel @jfd553 
Cool, thanks!

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: James 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:56:16 PM
To: Daniel @jfd553 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Project #173. I've set you as an experienced mapper and you should be able to 
see it.

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/173

On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 1:05 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Sounds good to me. Can we try it as if I don't have the data? I might then be 
able to clearly document the procedure in the wiki.



Daniel



From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:38
To: Daniel @jfd553
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada



The task is setup in task manager, it was just more convenient serving data via 
the service. I can publish the task and invite those that have enough 
experience (they would need the orthoganalized data though) Which I could 
provide over slack(osm-ca.slack.com)



On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 10:33 a.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi James,

That is too bad, but there is no rush at this stage because we are simply 
refining the import procedure. In the meantime, I propose to act as “Task 
manager”. I can provide some tiles (task frame and orthogonalized buildings’ 
footprint) to those who wish to try the import procedure.

I should start importing today with a first tile. If changes/additional 
information are needed to adjust the procedure, I suggest we discuss it on the 
import Talk page [1]



Daniel



[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings





From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 20:13
To: Daniel @jfd553
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada



Ok so I have some bad news, the data.osmcanada.ca 
server that was being hosted by a friend on AWS was shutdown and wiped. I will 
need to get time to get things setup on another server to host the 
microinstance: https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2020-03-10 Thread James 
Project #173. I've set you as an experienced mapper and you should be able
to see it.

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/173

On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 1:05 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
wrote:

> Sounds good to me. Can we try it as if I don't have the data? I might then
> be able to clearly document the procedure in the wiki.
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:38
> *To:* Daniel @jfd553
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
>
>
>
> The task is setup in task manager, it was just more convenient serving
> data via the service. I can publish the task and invite those that have
> enough experience (they would need the orthoganalized data though) Which I
> could provide over slack(osm-ca.slack.com)
>
>
>
> On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 10:33 a.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> That is too bad, but there is no rush at this stage because we are simply
> refining the import procedure. In the meantime, I propose to act as “Task
> manager”. I can provide some tiles (task frame and orthogonalized
> buildings’ footprint) to those who wish to try the import procedure.
>
> I should start importing today with a first tile. If changes/additional
> information are needed to adjust the procedure, I suggest we discuss it on
> the import Talk page [1]
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2020 20:13
> *To:* Daniel @jfd553
> *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
>
>
>
> Ok so I have some bad news, the data.osmcanada.ca server that was being
> hosted by a friend on AWS was shutdown and wiped. I will need to get time
> to get things setup on another server to host the microinstance:
> https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service
>
>
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[Talk-ca] Grand-Montréal Utilisation de sidewalk pour cartographier pistes multi-usage

2020-03-10 Thread Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais 
Voici une photo aérienne haute résolution de l’endroit pour mieux évaluer le 
contexte. C’est vraiment un cas particulier, car il y a aussi un trottoir à 
droite. J’ai ajouté une note sur ce way.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Y0CsomNZLCEEVlX-CDHsv4yplKWxkLOJ 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2020-03-10 Thread Daniel @jfd553 
Sounds good to me. Can we try it as if I don't have the data? I might then be 
able to clearly document the procedure in the wiki.

Daniel

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 10:38
To: Daniel @jfd553
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

The task is setup in task manager, it was just more convenient serving data via 
the service. I can publish the task and invite those that have enough 
experience (they would need the orthoganalized data though) Which I could 
provide over slack(osm-ca.slack.com)

On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 10:33 a.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi James,
That is too bad, but there is no rush at this stage because we are simply 
refining the import procedure. In the meantime, I propose to act as “Task 
manager”. I can provide some tiles (task frame and orthogonalized buildings’ 
footprint) to those who wish to try the import procedure.
I should start importing today with a first tile. If changes/additional 
information are needed to adjust the procedure, I suggest we discuss it on the 
import Talk page [1]

Daniel

[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings


From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 20:13
To: Daniel @jfd553
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Ok so I have some bad news, the data.osmcanada.ca 
server that was being hosted by a friend on AWS was shutdown and wiped. I will 
need to get time to get things setup on another server to host the 
microinstance: https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2020-03-10 Thread James 
The task is setup in task manager, it was just more convenient serving data
via the service. I can publish the task and invite those that have enough
experience (they would need the orthoganalized data though) Which I could
provide over slack(osm-ca.slack.com)

On Tue., Mar. 10, 2020, 10:33 a.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> That is too bad, but there is no rush at this stage because we are simply
> refining the import procedure. In the meantime, I propose to act as “Task
> manager”. I can provide some tiles (task frame and orthogonalized
> buildings’ footprint) to those who wish to try the import procedure.
>
> I should start importing today with a first tile. If changes/additional
> information are needed to adjust the procedure, I suggest we discuss it on
> the import Talk page [1]
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2020 20:13
> *To:* Daniel @jfd553
> *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
>
>
>
> Ok so I have some bad news, the data.osmcanada.ca server that was being
> hosted by a friend on AWS was shutdown and wiped. I will need to get time
> to get things setup on another server to host the microinstance:
> https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2020-03-10 Thread Daniel @jfd553 
Hi James,
That is too bad, but there is no rush at this stage because we are simply 
refining the import procedure. In the meantime, I propose to act as “Task 
manager”. I can provide some tiles (task frame and orthogonalized buildings’ 
footprint) to those who wish to try the import procedure.
I should start importing today with a first tile. If changes/additional 
information are needed to adjust the procedure, I suggest we discuss it on the 
import Talk page [1]

Daniel

[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings


From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 20:13
To: Daniel @jfd553
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Ok so I have some bad news, the data.osmcanada.ca 
server that was being hosted by a friend on AWS was shutdown and wiped. I will 
need to get time to get things setup on another server to host the 
microinstance: https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service
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