Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2019-04-30 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
The sources of the data are different in different regions, as well as the existing communities. A Canada-wide process won't work when each import is going to vary.On Apr 27, 2019 1:40 PM, john whelan wrote:We now have three sources of data with the correct licensing.I'm proposing that I amend

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
On 2019-03-15 9:07 a.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I disagree. Silence won't solve anything. I'm speaking here as a local BC mapper, and I strongly disagree with these recent imports. I'm also a BC mapper, and have only seen the consultation happen over Ontario, not BC.

[Talk-ca] Terminating British Columbia Mosaic imagery

2018-06-13 Thread Paul Norman
I will be shutting down the "British Columbia Mosaic" imagery in the near or medium future. I set this up in about 2011, and the system has been running without many updates since then. When I started hosting it, we had access to Bing and Yahoo. Between the two of them, we had acceptable for

[Talk-ca] Vancouver mappy hour

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Norman
Starting this year, we're aiming to have monthly mappy hours in Vancouver, on the 4th Friday of each month. The next one is Friday March 24th, near Metrotown at 6:30 PM at the Firefighters' Public House. This is convenient to transit Full details are at

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:06 AM, James wrote: So if I understand correctly Paul, CC0 or any other license would require permission as a bypass to the license, even though it would be considered compatible with ODBL. No. CC0 is compatible with the ODbL, so you can just go ahead and use the data*,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:48 AM, James wrote: So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is considered compatible with ODBL? As mentioned previously, the OGL-CA is compatible because the Federal government has said so for their data. The Federal government's statement only applies

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 7:07 AM, John Marshall wrote: Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? It depends what they say in their reply. If they say no, then we can't use their data. If we have a suitable reply, then we are able to legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 4:34 PM, john whelan wrote: What you have is an interpretation of the Federal Government license. From my background in the civil service my understanding is for a statement it would have to be over a minister's signature or by act of parliament. No one else has the authority

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:48 PM, James wrote: It is, the thing they changed was federal references to municipal ones. Which is why i'm confused the license is "not compatible" We have a statement from the Federal government for their data under their license. The Federal government cannot make a

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess taken from their open data

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 3:22 PM, James wrote: Old link to an old wiki. Please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission That says Ottawa gave some data to Stats Canada in 2016, not that their data can be reused under the ODbL. I've sent an email to them asking

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: Hello everyone, Big news, the City of Ottawa has released the footprint of over 325,000 buildings on their open data portal in support to the project with Statistics Canada and the OSM community. We are very grateful for the amazing

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/19/2017 5:00 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Looking at a random one, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34154734 / http://openstreetcam.org/details/10767/4194 — I think in the US we would just map this as destination=Carman Road;Iriquois and destination:ref=1 That is how it would be

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/22/2016 3:21 PM, James wrote: As pnorman has said in the past( https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-September/007260.html): / Uploaded in small enough parts that the changesets make sense. This means never uploading more than 50k objects at once, and typically fewer

Re: [Talk-ca] Road route relations: network tag

2016-10-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/27/2016 3:04 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: My mapping colleagues (not me, I only map in my spare time :)) noted that there are some irregular network tags on highways in Canada. The usual hierarchical notation[1] is in place in many relations, but we encountered deviations from that

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec attributes (roads)

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/9/2016 2:34 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The conflation engine takes OSM PBF as input, so the Canvec shapefiles would need to be translated (using ogr2osm). The CanVec we've used in the past has been supplied in OSM XML format. No one has proposed a new import with a different format, so

Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/1/2016 1:22 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote: I'm not sure I agree. "Better than nothing" I guess is the principle, but when what is there (not nothing) gets in the way of improving other features, then it's not better than nothing. And what if what's there is, from an information point of view,

Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/1/2016 8:17 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote: I'm "glad" to see someone else w/ this issue. It's glancingly related to the canvec import issue, since the land use polygons are a source of some of the issues the reverter is complaining about (malformed multipolygons / boundary overlaps). In my own

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Paul Norman
that OpenStreetMap is a crowd-sourcing project, which inherently involves working with other people. This requires good communication, which was absent here. Paul Norman For the OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group [1]: Except for the CanVec license, which is ODbL and possibly CC BY-SA [2]: Much

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
ue you can escalate it to the Data Working Group by emailing d...@osmfoundation.org. We have some additional tools we can use. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

2016-08-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/11/2016 5:53 AM, Kevin Farrugia wrote: Yes - recently bootprint, andrewpmk, and I have been changing and correcting the name tags to destination in Ontario along the 400-Series highways. If you see a ramp/link that is named, it's fine to change it over to destination or correct a problem

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/15/2016 3:08 PM, john whelan wrote: Thank you Paul I think that sums up the issue nicely, someone at Stats Canada is going to have fun working out which tags are relevant to them especially when some may be a different way to express the same thing. Plus of course we have

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/15/2016 8:01 AM, john whelan wrote: As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping buildings in Canada and the number of times used. This is to get an idea of what is already mapped and to see which values should be used when new tags are added. I looked at a

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/9/2016 11:17 PM, Heather Leson wrote: Hi Folks Planet Labs opened up their imagery with an OSM friendly license https://www.planet.com/pulse/fort-mcmurray-wildfire/ The license on there (CC BY-SA) is not suitable for deriving data for use in OSM with - do we have a special permission

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote: Bernie, I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that we need to complete our work. I’m happy to

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread Paul Norman
Fort McMurray is the 5th largest city in the province of Alberta and has been evacuated in the face of wildfires which have burned thousands of structures. Satellites have been tasked to gather imagery, but it probably won't be very useful imagery for OSM until the smoke has cleared. My guess

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 2016-03-02 7:14 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2016-03-01 06:42 PM, Tristan Anderson wrote: >Let's not be too hasty in removing large amounts of data, … simply >because it may or may not be compatible with a future OSM license. That's not the issue. It's not compatible with the current

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote: I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't know what license it may have in OSM in the future.

Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/28/2016 10:31 AM, Ken Wuschke wrote: So a suggestion to a definition for trunk routes in Canada could be a simple as: *A highway=trunk is a roadway that is a part of the National Highway System as defined by the Council of Ministers Responsible for Transportation

Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding

2016-01-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/26/2016 11:34 AM, Chandler Vancouver wrote: To begin with I am relatively new to OSM but I am trying to figure the Canadian definition for trunk status and find the current definition as described on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines#Trunk as academic and

Re: [Talk-ca] Map rendering errors

2015-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/1/2015 5:27 AM, Bruno Remy wrote: By the evidence, this is a database problem in osm2pgsql schema , witch is used by Mapnik's rendering process. The most probable hypothesis is : some old nodes and old ways

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/12/2015 4:44 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: Much of the data is tagged with CANVEC import etc viewable in JOSM but in the Ottawa area in particular many of this attr / source tags have been removed. The tags don't matter; attribution is in the *© OpenStreetMap Contributors* link. Aren't

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/12/2015 5:38 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: Many other national contributors use an OGL licence, such as in the UK . These contain very similar attribution terms

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Ottawa, Canada import

2015-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/17/2015 8:20 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: Hi James, but I did receive approval from the city that we could import data from data.ottawa.ca/dataset http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset. Which I documented here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Permission I'm

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports

2015-07-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/23/2015 8:54 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? Very likely most of them are not released under open licenses. Unfortunately, non-open data gets listed in OpenAddresses and there's no assurance that you can combine

Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/22/2015 11:43 AM, Daniel Begin wrote: So far, I understand we have 2.5 votes for tagging trunk/motorway all roads identified as “core route” in document (a); 0.5 against (I am still torn between the two approaches!-) More comments would be appreciated Such an approach would be

[Talk-ca] Mapping Commercial Drive event in Vancouver

2015-07-15 Thread Paul Norman
The Vancouver OSM group will be meeting on Saturday at 11 AM on Commercial Drive We'll be mapping locations on Commercial Drive and enjoying the nice summer weather outside. Use your favorite OpenStreetMap tool to do the mapping, be it an app, notebook, GPS, or field papers. People from all

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase Import

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/8/2015 2:40 AM, James wrote: Has anyone else had issues with the conversion script from GML to osm? I've been looking at the wiki here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase/Import_How-To and when I try to convert the data python gives me the : UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't

Re: [Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/6/2015 6:42 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Some of these notes are POIs that are visible on Mapillary but I couldn't figure out exactly where they are (for instance, the sign on a strip plaza shows there is a shop but I can't see exactly where it is). You should probably keep these. If you

[Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes

2015-07-06 Thread Paul Norman
I've been catching up on local notes, and have come across a few I'm not sure how to resolve. There are a number which are equivalent to There is a some name of shop somewhere in this block. While probably correct, they're not very useful. The notes aren't bug reports, the original intent of

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data quality in Canada

2015-06-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/17/2015 1:12 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * What is the imports history, particularly in relation to road network, POIs and addresses? (Beyond what’s in the import catalogue page on the wiki, if anything) CanVec, National Hydrographic Network (NHN), and National Road Network (NRN), all

Re: [Talk-ca] duplicate address data

2015-03-26 Thread Paul Norman
On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Gerd Petermann gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com wrote: Example: The ways http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/99649911 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/83504524 One has source=NRCan-CanVec-7.0, the other source=CanVec 6.0 - NRCan Is there a good reason for this

[Talk-ca] March Vancouver meetup

2015-03-06 Thread Paul Norman
There's going to be a Vancouver meetup near Metrotown on March 17. In the great Saint Patrick's Day tradition, the theme is green locations, but anything is welcome. Bring your own device - laptop recommended. More info and RSVP at

Re: [Talk-ca] ON prefix on Ontario highways

2015-02-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/28/2015 9:45 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Don't use prefixes or adulterate the ref with extra characters. Use the network tag for that information. http://taginfo.osm.org/search?q=network%3Dca_on_county Although the lack of prefixes may be true for Ontario routes, it's worth remembering that

Re: [Talk-ca] RIP CanVec

2014-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/17/2014 5:50 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: Is there any way to de-tile the data? I realise that most of Canada is one giant water relation, but is there a data processing pipeline that can recognize and join up split entities? I looked at this, but it's better to go back to the original

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal data source attribution

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/9/2014 8:48 AM, Steve Singer wrote: What is the current procedure for meeting the attribution requirement of a municipal data-source released under the 'Open Government Licence ? Unfortunately each Open Government License is different, and when I've asked about license compatibility

[Talk-ca] Inaugural Vancouver Meetup - Tuesday October 28

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
On Tuesday October 28th, there will be an OpenStreetMap meetup held in Vancouver. http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Vancouver/events/214167332/ We'll be holding it in the Bread Garden in Metrotown (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/257886760), with convenient access to transit and nearby

Re: [Talk-ca] Winnipeg Open Data portal

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/1/2014 10:16 AM, Michael Zajac wrote: Does this look compatible with OSM? No one has yet evaluated the various OGL variants for compatibility with other licenses. I've gotten explicit statements of compatibility from some sources. For that matter, the various variants aren't listed as

[Talk-ca] Mapillary coverage in Vancouver

2014-07-28 Thread Paul Norman
For some time I have been taking pictures to map from, and now that Mapillary is out, I finally have a way to share them. Mapillary is a company that is making a service similar to the old OpenStreetView, where they collect pictures of roads. The difference is that they currently offer the

[Talk-ca] Central Park meetup: lot full

2014-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
The parking lot at swangard stadium is full for an event. Parking lot off of boundary nearest, marked for pool/stadium. Call 604 7792432 if needed. Wearing high vis osm vest Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-ca] Canadian OSM POI quality

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Norman
I was curious how complete OpenStreetMap shop data was, so decided to do an analysis for some Canadian chains. The results were mixed. Starting with a Canada extract, I processed the data into PostGIS and ran queries against name, brand and franchise for objects where amenity, office or shop was

Re: [Talk-ca] Local Vancouver meeting

2014-06-04 Thread Paul Norman
digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Local Vancouver meeting: Map Central Park (Clifford Snow) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:53:03 -0700 From: Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us To: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com

[Talk-ca] Local Vancouver meeting: Map Central Park

2014-06-03 Thread Paul Norman
I am planning on hosting a mapping event in Central Park (http://osm.org/way/23165846), in Burnaby, BC. My tentative date is Sunday, June 15th at around noon, but if people want a different time I could shift it. The park is a major park in the region, but under-mapped, with potentially not

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Norman
You’re best off tagging the road (highway=track probably, maybe highway=unclassified) and indicating that it’s part of the Trans Canada Trail with a relation. From: Brian Lang [mailto:bril...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:15 PM To: Richard Weait Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: perso...@charleskiyanda.com [mailto:perso...@charleskiyanda.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:27 AM To: Harald Kliems Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec The question of where does the coastline end and riverbank start

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: workflow for elevation data

2014-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data To: Charles Basenga Kiyanda perso...@charleskiyanda.com There was a service, run by long time OpenStreetMap user lambertus, that displayed an elevation profile graph

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: William Rieck [mailto:bi...@thinkers.org] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? Hi Paul, I was following your message until this statement, where I got confused. Are you saying the city of Langley is not a city? What

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
; Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? Oups I was wrong in identifiying the polygons in JOSM. These are two adjacent polygons, the city being surrounded by the township. The difference in spelling comes from the alt_name=Langley. I should have

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
CC BY 3.0 and earlier had onerous attribution requirements for data. I believe 4.0 fixes this. I don't think anyone has suggested contacting a data provider who's licensed under CC 4.0 licenses to clarify attribution. The issue with 3.0 attribution are not purely theoretical, there have been

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Daniel Friesen [mailto:dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:10 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name? I'm a little new to OSM, recently I found that neither of the city boundaries for the Langley area

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
No one has raised the issue on legal-talk@ since CC 4 was released. From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:43 AM To: diane.merc...@gmail.com; Talk-ca (OSM) Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec Merci Diane pour

[Talk-ca] CanVec updates without a version bump

2014-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
I was having a look at New Westminster in tile 092G02.1.1, and I noticed that there are differences between CanVec 10.0 which I downloaded when it came out and what I just downloaded from the CanVec webpage, which is also labeled CanVec 10.0 Addresses have been added, and with them, errors

[Talk-ca] GNS tag cleanup

2014-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
About 6 years ago, a set of data was imported from GNS, consisting of place names, mainly of place=town. As an example, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/52556192/history Thy have a few tags, many of which can probably be safely automatically eliminated by editor software. Using the example

Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
Both landuse=forest and natural=wood may be used to indicate an area with trees. There are differing views about what the tags mean, so it is possible for one person to sensibly use landuse=forest to map something while a different person would use natural=wood to map that exact same thing.

[Talk-ca] Nanaimo OGL license

2013-12-19 Thread Paul Norman
Previously[1] I looked at the OGL - Canada 2.0. The federal government opinion is that the license is compatible with the ODbL and CC BY. The OKFN regards the OGL - Canada 2.0 as meeting the Open Definition. The OGL - British Columbia and OGL - Nanaimo are different licenses. Aside from

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 1:34 PM To: 'Richard Weait'; 'Connors, Bernie (SNB)' Cc: 'Talk-CA OpenStreetMap' Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB?? Provinces provide roads to NRCan that simply package it for GeoBase and

[Talk-ca] Making use of Kelowna open data

2013-11-11 Thread Paul Norman
I've been setting up a new server and setting up new imagery and other resources for the OSM community. One that's basically finished is some stuff making use of the City of Kelowna data, published under the PDDL. I've put up a page demoing what I've done at

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:29 PM To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Cc: 'Levene, Mark'; 'David E. Nelson'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada cc'ing to a few people who I have

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data

2013-11-04 Thread Paul Norman
. From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data Agreed. I see that Paul Norman imported some of the City of Surrey GIS data a couple of years ago and that included house numbers. Cheers Steve On 04/11/2013 6:16 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: I think Daniel's

[Talk-ca] Open Government License - Canada

2013-11-03 Thread Paul Norman
cc'ing to a few people who I have talked about this with in the past. Some governments in Canada have released data under the Open Government Licence - Canada, version 2.0. This is yet another new license. Some people have asked if we can use datasets available under this license.

Re: [Talk-ca] Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes?

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Norman
Interpolations are generally regarded as approximations until we can get individual addresses mapped. The post in case was about if was more common to map a building with an address as one way with a building tag and address tags or as one way with a building tag and a node with address tags.

Re: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC

2013-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:spero.shirope...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:55 PM To: 'David E. Nelson' Cc: 'Paul Norman'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC I am no legal person by any means, and Nanaimo has adopted v2 of the OGL since I last looked at it. Paul Norman

Re: [Talk-ca] Aerial imagery for Nanaimo, BC

2013-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
We seem to be jumping ahead a bit quickly. We haven’t solved the legal issues about using any of their data, so it seems premature to be worried about the technical details. Once the legal issues get cleared up I can easily take the Nanaimo imagery and host an imagery layer which can be added

[Talk-ca] Lake Erie shores

2013-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
I happened across http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1205150, a relation with name=Lake Erie. My recollection is that last time this came up we decided that as the Great Lakes are large lakes by any reasonable standard they are best represented as natural=coastline. Thousand-member MPs

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Singer [mailto:st...@ssinger.info] Cc: 'Matthew Buchanan'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence Wouldn't the multiple Information Providers kick is as soon as you combined data from Vancouver with any other source such as the existing OSM

[Talk-ca] Kelowna Open Data

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
I don't know how this slipped under my radar, but Kelowna BC has open data, licensed under the PDDL. I see that they have 2012 aerial photos, which I'll work on hosting, although I might need to upgrade my server first. What's more interesting is they have some address data. If there is a local

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada [I guess Bernie's original subject of ‘G8 leaders sign open data charter of principles’ might've made this important announcement sink without trace.] Bernie Connors wrote: Is there

Re: [Talk-ca] Advice on Addressing

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Norman
Individual addresses are always preferable to interpolation lines, interpolation lines are just an approximation so if you have all the addresses in a block you shouldn't also have interpolation lines as the latter duplicates the former. As for how to tag the addresses, if they're buildings

Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Norman
Chances are good that this is a bug with HTTPS anywhere and Firefox. If you are using that extension with Firefox, disable the OpenStreetMap Wiki ruleset. See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/8841 for the corresponding HTTPS anywhere ruleset bug. From: Stewart Russell

Re: [Talk-ca] Question?

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Norman
This is not correct – there are no mandatory tags, and there is no legal reason why a source tag can’t be removed. Incidentally, source tags are perhaps the ones most frequently removed as osm2pgsql drops them by default. If you’re looking at doing an import

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Darryl Shpak [mailto:dar...@shpak.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca Good morning everyone, So: I am just about to renew this domain for another year. I would like to pass control of the domain over to the Canadian mapping community, to someone who will do something --

Re: [Talk-ca] Copyright in data

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks for the link. It's good to see a court decision reminding parties that (in Canada) there is no copyright in data. From the court decision: However, there is no principle of property law that would preclude anyone from making use of information displayed in a publicly available paper

Re: [Talk-ca] New Bing imagery in Montreal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
With the new Montreal open data, perhaps they have aerial photography they can release? Or perhaps they already have, but I couldn't find any. If someone can get it, I can host it. From: nicholas ingalls [mailto:nicholas.inga...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:18 AM To: Harald

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good. Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data. Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags

2013-02-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags Hello: Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in or strip them out? There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or any tag, for that matter).

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] (sans objet)

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
I see that there is an event in Vancouver and some people from the city will be there. I'd like to compile a list of issues with the Vancouver license beforehand. I know rweait had some as blog posts but I think they're offline. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Pierre Béland

Re: [Talk-ca] [OpenDataBC] Call for Speakers @ Open Data BC Summit on Feb 19, 2013 Vancouver

2013-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
Resenting to the right address... Sent from my iPad On 2013-01-03, at 12:09 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I'm considering going to this conference and presenting on OSM use of open data. I figure it might be of interest to a few people as data used by us will be used by Wikipedia

Re: [Talk-ca] Osmose, Outil de qualité, maintenant disponible pour le Québec

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Norman
I’ve been looking at a bot to fix the double-space issue with CanVec/Geobase, but no idea when I’ll have the time for it so don’t let that stop anyone else interested from developing one, consulting, etc. Serge’s work in the US with TIGER name expansions might be helpful. Also, just a

[Talk-ca] Toronto-area events in early January

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Norman
I'm going to be in Toronto in the new year and was wondering if any OSM or GIS events, meetings or mappy hours would be taking place. I'll be arriving on the 2nd and leaving on the 7th for Penetang but might be free after that. I'll mainly be spending time with the relatives, but the dates for

Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area

2012-12-07 Thread Paul Norman
Do you know when you’ll be proposing this import to the various lists? From: Pierre Béland [mailto:infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:55 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area Tom For the Québec

Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:20 PM To: Bruno Remy; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border You can get the boundary coordinates from the IBC - International Boundary Commission. I also checked

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Dan Charrois [mailto:d...@syz.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts Usually, in remote areas of the north that I've dealt with, there is often little else already there than the Landsat lakes. And usually, in a given tile, there is usually just a handful of lakes.

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts I've just performed my first edits, in our neighbourhood. One thing I noticed was that some of the buildings are duplicates. I assume this is part of what you are talking about when you

Re: [Talk-ca] Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
@openstreetmap.org Cc: Paul Norman; Nicolas Gariépy Subject: Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking Data import is essential to cover all of Canada, But it is complex to import Canvec files in areas were data already exist. Both unexperienced and experienced people may make errors. Import

[Talk-ca] BC Resource Roads

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I was importing some CanVec in northern BC and came across a resource road on bing, which I also added, but I realized I wasn't positive on the best tagging. A typical example is http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.395lon=-122.074zoom=16 These roads exist for forestry and oil and gas use. In

Re: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 2:58 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions What is the best was of adding a new subdivision like this one east of Kelowna? I've only used Potlatch.

[Talk-ca] CanVec bug - splitting of long riverbank ways?

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I appear to of found a CanVec 10 bug in 094P13.0.osm There is a waterway=riverbank way (Dilly Creek) that is split in two at 59.7728641, -121.9806992. One way is 2k nodes, the other is 457 nodes. Ideally this would be split in two to form two separate areas. An alternate solution would be to not

Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:22 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring I see that Canada is pretty good at the admin2 (Country) level, and the admin4 level (Regions) except for a few islands in the Hudson and James

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