Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread john whelan 
I note that
https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md
  under ploughing this recommends paths that are ploughed are tagged
winter_service=no which is the opposite way round to map features in the
link.  No mention is made of seasonal=no.

I suggest it needs review perhaps?

Thanks

Cheerio John

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 10:57, James  wrote:

> I know it's been linked before:
>
> https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md
>
> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:55 a.m. John Whelan  wrote:
>
>> Which means more tags on the map but at least you can see which are
>> definitely cleared.
>>
>> Interesting since its Ottawa I'll follow this convention.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> James wrote on 2018-11-20 10:53 AM:
>>
>> pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT
>> seasonal(closes during winter for example)
>>
>> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged
>>> seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?
>>>
>>> The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not
>>> cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no
>>>
>>> Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the seasonal
>>> tag?
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
>>> indicate winter maintenance.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Amos
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan  wrote:
>>>
 Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically
 I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.

 Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
 default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
 sufficient.

 Thanks

 Cheerio John

 Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:

 Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état
 du sentier et services accessibles.

 La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
 disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
 nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.

 Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
 pour décrire un service hivernal.

 La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de
 service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture
 d'une nouvelle route).

 Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que
 l'hiver.
 Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
 ice_road=yes
 surface=ice

 Pierre


 Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
   a écrit :


 Sounds perfect.

 Thanks John

 On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets >>>
 winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


 On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan 
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 Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
 ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.

 Any suggestions on tags?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread john whelan 
I don't do slack.

Cheerio John

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 11:01 am Yaro Shkvorets  In Ottawa cycling community we moved on from seasonal to winter_service
> about a week ago following a discussion on slack channel.
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:58 AM James  wrote:
>
>> I know it's been linked before:
>>
>> https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:55 a.m. John Whelan > wrote:
>>
>>> Which means more tags on the map but at least you can see which are
>>> definitely cleared.
>>>
>>> Interesting since its Ottawa I'll follow this convention.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> James wrote on 2018-11-20 10:53 AM:
>>>
>>> pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT
>>> seasonal(closes during winter for example)
>>>
>>> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan >> wrote:
>>>
 I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged
 seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?

 The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not
 cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no

 Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the
 seasonal tag?

 Thanks John

 Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:


 FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
 indicate winter maintenance.

 --
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 On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan 
 wrote:

> Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically
> I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.
>
> Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
> default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
> sufficient.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheerio John
>
> Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:
>
> Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état
> du sentier et services accessibles.
>
> La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
> disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
> nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.
>
> Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
> pour décrire un service hivernal.
>
> La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de
> service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture
> d'une nouvelle route).
>
> Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent
> que l'hiver.
> Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
> ice_road=yes
> surface=ice
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
>   a écrit :
>
>
> Sounds perfect.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets  wrote:
>
> winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan 
> wrote:
>
> Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
>
> Any suggestions on tags?
>
> Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread Yaro Shkvorets 
In Ottawa cycling community we moved on from seasonal to winter_service
about a week ago following a discussion on slack channel.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:58 AM James  wrote:

> I know it's been linked before:
>
> https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md
>
> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:55 a.m. John Whelan  wrote:
>
>> Which means more tags on the map but at least you can see which are
>> definitely cleared.
>>
>> Interesting since its Ottawa I'll follow this convention.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> James wrote on 2018-11-20 10:53 AM:
>>
>> pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT
>> seasonal(closes during winter for example)
>>
>> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged
>>> seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?
>>>
>>> The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not
>>> cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no
>>>
>>> Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the seasonal
>>> tag?
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
>>> indicate winter maintenance.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Amos
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan  wrote:
>>>
 Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically
 I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.

 Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
 default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
 sufficient.

 Thanks

 Cheerio John

 Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:

 Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état
 du sentier et services accessibles.

 La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
 disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
 nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.

 Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
 pour décrire un service hivernal.

 La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de
 service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture
 d'une nouvelle route).

 Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que
 l'hiver.
 Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
 ice_road=yes
 surface=ice

 Pierre


 Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
   a écrit :


 Sounds perfect.

 Thanks John

 On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets >>>
 winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


 On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan 
 wrote:

 Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
 ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.

 Any suggestions on tags?

 Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread James 
I know it's been linked before:
https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md

On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:55 a.m. John Whelan  Which means more tags on the map but at least you can see which are
> definitely cleared.
>
> Interesting since its Ottawa I'll follow this convention.
>
> Thanks John
>
> James wrote on 2018-11-20 10:53 AM:
>
> pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT
> seasonal(closes during winter for example)
>
> On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged
>> seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?
>>
>> The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not
>> cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no
>>
>> Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the seasonal
>> tag?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:
>>
>>
>> FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
>> indicate winter maintenance.
>>
>> --
>> Amos
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically
>>> I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.
>>>
>>> Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
>>> default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
>>> sufficient.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:
>>>
>>> Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état du
>>> sentier et services accessibles.
>>>
>>> La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
>>> disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
>>> nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.
>>>
>>> Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
>>> pour décrire un service hivernal.
>>>
>>> La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de
>>> service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture
>>> d'une nouvelle route).
>>>
>>> Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que
>>> l'hiver.
>>> Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
>>> ice_road=yes
>>> surface=ice
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
>>>   a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds perfect.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets >>
>>> winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
>>> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on tags?
>>>
>>> Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread John Whelan 
Which means more tags on the map but at least you can see which are 
definitely cleared.


Interesting since its Ottawa I'll follow this convention.

Thanks John

James wrote on 2018-11-20 10:53 AM:
pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT 
seasonal(closes during winter for example)


On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan  wrote:


I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are
tagged seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?

The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not
cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no

Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the
seasonal tag?

Thanks John

Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:


FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on
pathways to indicate winter maintenance.

--
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park
specifically I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling
not a more generic case.

Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I
think the default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't
cleared would be sufficient.

Thanks

Cheerio John

Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:

Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès
hivernal, état du sentier et services accessibles.

La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le
sentier est disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas
d'indiquer que le sentier est nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux
velos.

Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés
utiliisées pour décrire un service hivernal.

La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre
type de service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier
suite à l'ouverture d'une nouvelle route).

Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste
n'existent que l'hiver.
Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
ice_road=yes
surface=ice

Pierre


Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
  a
écrit :


Sounds perfect.

Thanks John

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets
mailto:shkvor...@gmail.com> wrote:

winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan
mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared
some aren't.  The ones that are are useful for
cycling in the winter.

Any suggestions on tags?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread James 
pathes that ARE cleared are tagged seasonal=no as they are NOT
seasonal(closes during winter for example)

On Tue., Nov. 20, 2018, 10:51 a.m. John Whelan  I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged
> seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?
>
> The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not cleared
> need to be tagged with winter_service=no
>
> Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the seasonal
> tag?
>
> Thanks John
>
> Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:
>
>
> FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
> indicate winter maintenance.
>
> --
> Amos
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan  wrote:
>
>> Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically I'm
>> interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.
>>
>> Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
>> default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
>> sufficient.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:
>>
>> Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état du
>> sentier et services accessibles.
>>
>> La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
>> disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
>> nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.
>>
>> Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
>> pour décrire un service hivernal.
>>
>> La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de service
>> hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture d'une
>> nouvelle route).
>>
>> Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que
>> l'hiver.
>> Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
>> ice_road=yes
>> surface=ice
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
>>   a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Sounds perfect.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets >
>> winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
>> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
>>
>> Any suggestions on tags?
>>
>> Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread John Whelan 
I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  Paths that not cleared are tagged 
seasonal=no or tags that are cleared get the tag seasonal=no?


The default on winter_service is yes so only the ones that are not 
cleared need to be tagged with winter_service=no


Could you point me to a reference in map features that uses the seasonal 
tag?


Thanks John

Amos Hayes wrote on 2018-11-20 10:20 AM:


FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways 
to indicate winter maintenance.


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On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan > wrote:


Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park
specifically I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a
more generic case.

Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think
the default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared
would be sufficient.

Thanks

Cheerio John

Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:

Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal,
état du sentier et services accessibles.

La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier
est disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le
sentier est nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.

Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés
utiliisées pour décrire un service hivernal.

La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de
service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à
l'ouverture d'une nouvelle route).

Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste
n'existent que l'hiver.
Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
ice_road=yes
surface=ice

Pierre


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Sounds perfect.

Thanks John

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winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


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Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some
aren't.  The ones that are are useful for cycling in the
winter.

Any suggestions on tags?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-20 Thread Amos Hayes 
FYI, the Ottawa cycling community is using "seasonal=no" on pathways to
indicate winter maintenance.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 19:01, John Whelan  wrote:

> Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically I'm
> interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.
>
> Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the
> default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be
> sufficient.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheerio John
>
> Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:
>
> Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état du
> sentier et services accessibles.
>
> La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est
> disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est
> nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.
>
> Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées
> pour décrire un service hivernal.
>
> La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de service
> hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture d'une
> nouvelle route).
>
> Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que
> l'hiver.
> Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
> ice_road=yes
> surface=ice
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan
>   a écrit :
>
>
> Sounds perfect.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets 
> winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan  wrote:
>
> Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
>
> Any suggestions on tags?
>
> Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-19 Thread John Whelan 
Yes but for the path I'm thinking of that crosses a park specifically 
I'm interested in tagging it just for cycling not a more generic case.


Do you have another suggestion than winter_service=yes|no I think the 
default is yes so just tagging the ones that aren't cleared would be 
sufficient.


Thanks

Cheerio John

Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-19 6:41 PM:
Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état 
du sentier et services accessibles.


La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est 
disponible l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est 
nettoyé facilitant l'accès aux velos.


Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées 
pour décrire un service hivernal.


La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de 
service hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à 
l'ouverture d'une nouvelle route).


Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent 
que l'hiver.

Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
ice_road=yes
surface=ice

Pierre


Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan 
 a écrit :



Sounds perfect.

Thanks John

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets  wrote:


winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some
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Any suggestions on tags?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-19 Thread Pierre Béland 
Il y a plusierus facettes à considérer ici, soit accès hivernal, état du 
sentier et services accessibles. 

La clé winter_service=yes indiquerait simplement que le sentier est disponible 
l'hiver et ne permettrait pas d'indiquer que le sentier est nettoyé facilitant 
l'accès aux velos.
Voici un usage différent mais qui nous éclaire sur les clés utiliisées pour 
décrire un service hivernal.
La Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road (chemin 50426104) est un autre type de service 
hivernal (Service abandonné l'hiver dernier suite à l'ouverture d'une nouvelle 
route).
Dans ce deuxième cas, cette tant le service que la piste n'existent que l'hiver.
Les clés OSM utilisées pour les décrire sont
ice_road=yessurface=ice

Pierre 
 

Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 17 h 20 min 53 s HNE, john whelan 
 a écrit :  
 
 Sounds perfect.
Thanks John
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-19 Thread john whelan 
Sounds perfect.

Thanks John

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm Yaro Shkvorets  winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan  wrote:
>
>> Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The
>> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-19 Thread Yaro Shkvorets 
winter_service=yes|no seems perfectly fine:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Awinter_service


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM john whelan  wrote:

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> ones that are are useful for cycling in the winter.
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> Any suggestions on tags?
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[Talk-ca] Tagging paths that are snowploughed?

2018-11-19 Thread john whelan 
Locally some paths across parks etc are snow cleared some aren't.  The ones
that are are useful for cycling in the winter.

Any suggestions on tags?

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