Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 is still active unfortunately

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 19 Jul 2009, at 23:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Peter Miller wrote: >> We really need some better tools for reverting this sort of >> nonsense and a way of patrolling the edits of new contributors . >> This isn't a discussion for talk-gb really, but possibly it is a >> good place

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 is still active unfortunately

2009-07-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: > We really need some better tools for reverting this sort of nonsense > and a way of patrolling the edits of new contributors . This isn't a > discussion for talk-gb really, but possibly it is a good place to start. See also the recent discussion on talk that started

[Talk-GB] Liam123 is still active unfortunately

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Miller
Liam123 is back and still being disruptive. I was doing adding some attributes to railways yesterday and came across more damage by him. There are currently 164 ways around London/Kent/Essex where he is the last editor. Here are details of his recent edits : http://www.openstreetmap.org/user

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Kai Krueger
Hi, it is great to see this work on coverage. Thanks for putting this together! It is always nice to see how much has already been achieved and how much still needs to be done. There was a similar mail on talk-de today by Florian Lohoff (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-Ju

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Jack Stringer
http://mapzone.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/mapzone/didyouknow/howmany/q_14_64.html Q. How many kilometres or miles of road are there in Great Britain? A. In January 2001 Ordnance Survey calculated that the following kilometres (miles) of road existed in Great Britain: motorways - 4 353 km (2 705.41 miles

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Richard Bullock
> Oh just a thought, does the calculations include toll roads? Do the > DfT monitor these in their figures? (M6 toll, Severn Bridge etc.) > Yes they do. It's in the notes on the DfT website that private toll roads which form part of major routes are included, but private minor roads are not. Inc

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Chris, Chris Hill wrote: BTW Frederik, does the (very useful) Geofabrik download for East Yorks use the coastline as its edge? No, just as I explained in my other post, it goes out to the sea for efficiency. See attached image, if it makes it onto the list. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Jack Stringer
Do you expect the DfT to even have an idea of how many road they have to look after. It would not surprise me if their own list is no where complete. I think we will always have larger figures because we can measure ever meter of road and likley the DfT is just measuring the lengths according to w

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/19 Frederik Ramm : > Hi, > > Peter Miller wrote: >> There is a relation for 'London Boroughs'. I wondered if we should produced >> one for 'Regions of England', and 'ceremonial counties of England' and >> add the appropriate relations to them. > > Generally, relations that just serve the pur

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Richard Bullock
> The way I have handled dual carriageways (and motorways) is to assume that > both carriageways are plotted separately on OSM. So the figure that > results > should be twice the length estimated by DfT. However, for primary roads, > DfT > themselves show the total length of primary road, and the

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Reed
FWIW I've now updated http://www.reedhome.org.uk/Documents/LGboundaries.csv to include a list of local authorities in Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Interestingly I joined this list a while ago because I had got my > hands on some admin boundary data for England and wanted to know if it > was any good (the answer was no). I then forgot to unsubscribe. I'm > still planning to extend the Geofabrik excerpts to cover all

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Reed
On the problems with Hampshire - my only related experience is that I had problems with POSTGIS unable to process a number of admin boundaries, because they are plotted with loops in the boundary. I.e. the boundary crosses over itself. This mostly happened where the coast had been added to the re

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Reed
Thanks for the interest and comments on my post about estimating coverage. In answer to some of the questions: The way I have handled dual carriageways (and motorways) is to assume that both carriageways are plotted separately on OSM. So the figure that results should be twice the length estimated

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: > Ok, thanks for that Frederik. You never know who will be on a list! Interestingly I joined this list a while ago because I had got my hands on some admin boundary data for England and wanted to know if it was any good (the answer was no). I then forgot to unsubscribe.

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 19 Jul 2009, at 12:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Peter Miller wrote: >> There is a relation for 'London Boroughs'. I wondered if we should >> produced one for 'Regions of England', and 'ceremonial counties of >> England' and add the appropriate relations to them. > > Generally, relati

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: > There is a relation for 'London Boroughs'. I wondered if we should produced > one for 'Regions of England', and 'ceremonial counties of England' and > add the appropriate relations to them. Generally, relations that just serve the purpose of collecting things are frow

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 19 Jul 2009, at 11:54, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Reed wrote: Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more road mapped than the DfT believes exists: Having mapped every road in Hull (Kingston-upon-Hull since today is a Sunday), some are fairly new and may no

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Reed wrote: Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more road mapped than the DfT believes exists: Having mapped every road in Hull (Kingston-upon-Hull since today is a Sunday), some are fairly new and may not appear on the DfT figures. 

[Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Richard Bullock
> Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more > road mapped than the DfT believes exists: > There could be a number of reasons for this; 1.Our boundaries are plotted from old parish boundaries on NPE typically. I had to move the Trafford/Manchester boundary in a

Re: [Talk-GB] Unsubscribe

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Andrew
as roads that don't join, bad tags >> etc. I can never remember how to turn this on. Would it be possible for >> Potlatch to have an on/off button for this feature? I think this could >> hugely improve mapping integrity for the project. This would also have the >> long-ter

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch "Integrity" button.

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Andrew
Mario, Thanks for that. I've used the keepright site. I was just wondering whether the functionality could be piped into Potlatch, as the KR site already has the opposite option (to edit in Potlatch). Just seemed like a really obvious overlay to have available. Thanks, Chris. 2009/7/19 Wesse

[Talk-GB] Unsubscribe

2009-07-19 Thread Sarah McCulloch
overlay on OSM of mapping errors, such as roads that don't join, bad tags > etc. I can never remember how to turn this on. Would it be possible for > Potlatch to have an on/off button for this feature? I think this could > hugely improve mapping integrity for the project. This would also h

[Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Reed
There have been a number of attempts to estimate the level of UK coverage, of varying levels of sophistication, but I've not seen any that compare the length of roads mapped against actual road lengths. The Department for Transport publishes statistics on actual road lengths by local authority

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch "Integrity" button.

2009-07-19 Thread WessexMario
Chris Andrew wrote: > > Hi, all. > > Some time ago, I realised from this list that it is possible to get an > overlay on OSM of mapping errors, such as roads that don't join, bad > tags etc. I can never remember how to turn this on. Would it be > possible for Potlatch to have an on/off button fo