[Talk-GB] WeeklyOSM 294

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #294, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the OpenStreetMap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7084 *Among others:* - Mapillary closed a further financing round, getting access to 8 million US

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I've added a code to preview the XML of the changeset that adds wikidata tags to objects in a given area. You can find preview links on region, county and district pages, but only if there are less than 150 objects to annotate with a wikidata tag. Examples: Norwich http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wi

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

It's not my preferred style -- I prefer to draw the building and tag that. I'd expect to put the name and address on the building too! If I tag a large area, then there's a high likelihood that it'll adversely affect routing. Conversely tagging large areas makes the map look more complete. H

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

On 11/03/16 17:26, SK53 wrote: > Obviously I prefer for supermarkets, places of worship and pubs that the > area mapped should be the building. However I can equally see that there > are certain issues which are otherwise intractable where mapping the > whole area offers some advantages. Having ju

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Well done and congratulations. Building or land tags can go on multipolygons, in fact it manages cases more complicated than this one better. It does seem silly to have just one tag in a different place though. -- Andrew From: Edward Betts Sent: 11 M

[Talk-GB] Sad News

News reached the OSM Weekly team recently that Bogus Zaba*, occasional poster to this list and regular contributor to www.weeklyosm.eu, has passed away after a short illness. According to a note from his wife "the cause of OSM was very dear to his heart and he greatly enjoyed his virtual inter

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Thanks SK53, you're right. I meant the West Midlands. SK53 wrote: > I presume you mean the West Midlands: firstly Birmingham is there & > secondly, I suspect East Midland mappers are less enthusiastic about this > sort of thing. > > Jerry > > On 11 March 2016 at 19:15, Edward Betts wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Colin Smale wrote: > > As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just > > a reference > > Unfortunately it's not quite that simple. > > The matching is done by co-ordinates. The co-ordinates in Wikidata could be > held to be information copyrighte

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I presume you mean the West Midlands: firstly Birmingham is there & secondly, I suspect East Midland mappers are less enthusiastic about this sort of thing. Jerry On 11 March 2016 at 19:15, Edward Betts wrote: > Chris Hill wrote: > > On 11/03/16 18:03, Edward Betts wrote: > > >I've uploaded my

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Chris Hill wrote: > On 11/03/16 18:03, Edward Betts wrote: > >I've uploaded my first changeset - Places of worship in Birmingham. > > > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37766888 > > > >This is a modification to 10 ways and one relation. > > > >The relation is a multipolygon representing Bi

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I've uploaded my first changeset - Places of worship in Birmingham. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37766888 This is a modification to 10 ways and one relation. The relation is a multipolygon representing Birmingham Oratory. The uploader has put the wikidata tag on the relation, which lo

[Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

Earlier today browsing Pascal Neis summary of changesets I noticed a comment about reverting a duplicate pub node, and glanced at the changeset . The pub had indeed been added again (and subsequently removed). However what caught my attention was th

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Colin Smale wrote: > As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just > a reference Unfortunately it's not quite that simple. The matching is done by co-ordinates. The co-ordinates in Wikidata could be held to be information copyrighted by Google. Consequently you could argue

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Richard, As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just a reference, it sounds analogous to the many discussions there have been about hyperlinks to copyright-infringing content, i.e. the question of whether the link itself constitutes a copyright infringement. The link itsel

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

On 10 March 2016 at 17:57, Edward Betts wrote: > I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now > covers all of the UK and Ireland. I know from our past exchanges just how much effort Edward has put into this initiative (at my instigation) and I want to acknowledge th

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

On 11/03/2016 12:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: Tickets have also been raised (to save anyone else looking it up) https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2680 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11541 I don't see anything for P2. I haven't looked for other editors. Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Hi all, Without wanting to be a rotten party-pooper, could I just raise the licence issues with this? Wikidata co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Wikipedia, which claims to be CC-BY-SA licensed. Wikipedia co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Google Maps[1]. Google expres

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

On 10 March 2016 at 20:53, Philip Barnes wrote: > What plans are there for maintenance of this data in future, it is a move > away from human readable tags so errors will go unnoticed. Various tickets have been opened, requesting that the authors of the major editing tools make them display th

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Good question. OSM editors and viewers could be changed to integrate more closely with Wikidata. An OSM editor could suggest to the mapper a matching Wikidata item to tag. We could have the editor automatically look up the label from the Wikidata item in the preferred language of the person editin

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I've added admin_level=8 to the output. This is useful for selling matches grouped by districts, London boroughs and metropolitan boroughs. For example: http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/region/Greater_London -- Edward. ___ Talk-GB mailing li

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I've adjusted the output to show the Wikipedia category path that the matcher followed to find the object. These two items are within the 'Dublin (City)' category, so end up being considered as cities. The reason they match is because one of the tags I consider for matching cities is landuse=reside

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I particularly want to echo Brian's advice to request permission from a mapper in each county. Use the OSM wiki to find local mappers/groups for that consultation. A summary table would be helpful if it includes: county name, when the mechanical edit was done, the status (done, refused, not yet co