[Talk-GB] Somerset Levels

2016-11-22 Thread Nick Austin
Does anyone know what happened to the Somerset Levels super-relation? I don't know how to search for deleted stuff so I can't look up it's history to see what happened. TIA. Nick. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Steve Doerr
There's a cupcake business locally which I suspect is a home business (as the streets in that area are only residential AFAIK). I haven't actually been there to check it out. Steve On 22/11/2016 15:54, Dave F wrote: I think they're misusing 'private' where they mean 'personal' I've only

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Steve Doerr
On 22/11/2016 15:22, Dave F wrote: Are you now suggesting the electoral roll should be hidden? Please don't assume duplicating freely available data in OSM makes it 'personal' or somehow tainted. It is possible to be 'ex-directory' in relation to the electoral register. -- Steve --- This

Re: [Talk-GB] foot=permissive in 'paid for' attractions?

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
In future examples, depending on the way, you may wish to consider access=customer which covers access for all users. (intentionally top posting, because I want to ;-) ) DaveF On 23/05/2016 11:27, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Thanks for this. (Apologies for top-posting, it's something that

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
I think they're misusing 'private' where they mean 'personal' I've only come across instances of mobile retailers. Does anyone have an example of a home business on the FHRS website? If there's only a partial address/postcode how are OSM contributors adding them? Are the co-ordinates

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
On 22/11/2016 13:41, David Woolley wrote: On 22/11/16 12:45, Dave F wrote: Please clarify exactly what data you believe to be personal? As it contains no data on "identifiable living people", could you provide evidence that it falls under the DPA? Occupation. There's no correlation to an

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread David Woolley
On 22/11/16 12:45, Dave F wrote: Please clarify exactly what data you believe to be personal? As it contains no data on "identifiable living people", could you provide evidence that it falls under the DPA? Occupation. (Real name and address can be obtained by anyone from the edited

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread David Woolley
On 22/11/16 12:58, Dave F wrote: On 21/11/2016 20:23, SK53 wrote: A bit late, but according to the FHRS manual businesses run from private addresses should be obscured (usually at the postcode district level). Do you have a link?

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
On 21/11/2016 20:23, SK53 wrote: A bit late, but according to the FHRS manual businesses run from private addresses should be obscured (usually at the postcode district level). Do you have a link? Not all authorities follow these rules; I have in the past had to point out to one authority

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
On 21/11/2016 13:38, Harry Wood wrote: "Apart from size, I fail to see the difference" Well the difference is whether you can go there and see the business. The effect of this verifiability rule might be a size thing, which might mean that the cottage industry baking cupcakes doesn't get added

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

2016-11-22 Thread Dave F
On 21/11/2016 13:18, David Woolley wrote: On 21/11/16 12:58, Dave F wrote: The FHRS database listing a business at a domestic address is verification IMO. It's also personal data. I actually thought that FHRS itself suppressed some of this, but if you include it, it becomes subject to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Relation: Street

2016-11-22 Thread Paul Berry
I understood the general rule of thumb was to map to the data and not to the renderer (which is an unknown quantity). If you're concerned about, say, OSM Standard layer, then I'm sure some kind of look-ahead could be employed when preparing a street for rendering: "If a way shares a start or end