Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread James Derrick
Hi Dave, Thanks for answering my original router logic question! :-) On 03/10/2020 17:52, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I've just tested in JOSM. It flagged no such validation warning. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/3403352 Interesting - you're right, I couldn't easily reproduce the 'Sharp

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
About the only change I've made in years of mapping 'non-mini' roundabouts is to split the oneway=yes flare 'V' into two segments. JOSM validation started flagging the junction node of the V as too tight a bend, which I suppose makes sense. This is a good example of how routing is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-10-03 at 18:36 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-10-03 18:16, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote: > > On 03/10/2020 16:57, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > > > > > They are intended to stop this type of routing > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-10-03 18:16, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote: > On 03/10/2020 16:57, Philip Barnes wrote: > >> They are intended to stop this type of routing >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=52.64994%2C-1.20491%3B52.64983%2C-1.2049 >> >> Which is techincally not illegal

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Tom Hughes via Talk-GB
On 03/10/2020 16:57, Philip Barnes wrote: They are intended to stop this type of routing https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=52.64994%2C-1.20491%3B52.64983%2C-1.2049 Which is techincally not illegal and in real world usage is not going to happen. But unless the

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-10-03 at 16:50 +0100, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote: > On 03/10/2020 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: > > > There seems to be a predilection for adding turn restrictions , > > either > > no right rurns or no U turns at the exit flares of roundabouts to > > prevent turning back into the

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread James Derrick
Hi, On 03/10/2020 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: There seems to be a predilection for adding turn restrictions , either no right rurns or no U turns at the exit flares of roundabouts to prevent turning back into the entry flares where there are no explicit signed restrictions. I suspect this is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Tom Hughes via Talk-GB
On 03/10/2020 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: There seems to be a predilection for adding turn restrictions , either no right rurns or no U turns at the exit flares of roundabouts to prevent turning back into the entry flares where there are no explicit signed restrictions. I suspect this is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Where I've seen them they're on every exit On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 15:49 Dave F via Talk-GB, wrote: > There is a lot of garbage in OSM due to those creating routers being too > lazy to write a few lines of code, or even use common sense. > > However, in this case I believe it's other contributors

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
There is a lot of garbage in OSM due to those creating routers being too lazy to write a few lines of code, or even use common sense. However, in this case I believe it's other contributors who think, for reasons that escape me, routers require it. Routing software must be of a poor standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-10-03 at 14:05 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi > > There seems to be a predilection for adding turn restrictions , > either no right rurns or no U turns at the exit flares of roundabouts > to prevent turning back into the entry flares where there are no > explicit signed

[Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi There seems to be a predilection for adding turn restrictions , either no right rurns or no U turns at the exit flares of roundabouts to prevent turning back into the entry flares where there are no explicit signed restrictions. I suspect this is "rendering for routers". Do routers actually