Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-27 Thread Tom Chance
If anyone wants to do something with London, you can download traffic flow data for different vehicle types from the London Energy and Greenhouse Gas Inventory: http://data.london.gov.uk/datastore/package/leggi-2008-database I produced a pretty picture of taxi traffic a while back, I've stuck it

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-27 Thread Craig Loftus
Ralph Smyth wrote: In terms of existing traffic count data, the problem is that generally (and indeed as is the case in Oxfordshire) it tends to be available only for A and B roads rather than many unclassified (and C) roads. I suspected the same but I hope (I haven't had chance to check)

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-26 Thread Ralph Smyth
In terms of existing traffic count data, the problem is that generally (and indeed as is the case in Oxfordshire) it tends to be available only for A and B roads rather than many unclassified (and C) roads. The problem with marking lightly trafficked roads as 'quiet lanes' on OSM is that this is

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-26 Thread SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2011 17:24, Ralph Smyth wrote: You can see the sign by rule 218 of the Highway Code, although some pre-2006 schemes used a different sign: www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069858 So there should be a 'quiet_lane' value for highway, just as there is 'living_street'.

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-26 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 26 January 2011 18:02, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 26/01/2011 17:24, Ralph Smyth wrote: You can see the sign by rule 218 of the Highway Code, although some pre-2006 schemes used a different sign: www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069858 So there

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-26 Thread Gregory
The traffic is a fluctuating measurement. OpenStreetMap is about the objects and networks on the ground. Yes your idea is good and I've had a similar idea with bicycle parking (when is a rack full, empty, or in-between). It makes sense to keep it in a designated database. When one enters data

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-25 Thread Craig Loftus
Something reminded me of this thread and my suggestion that data for some roads may already be collected. This seems to be true of Oxfordshire and it is even published. The counts are collected by automatic and manual means by the Transport Monitoring team of Oxfordshire County Council.

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-21 Thread ael
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 01:58:43PM +, Craig Loftus wrote: I like the idea. And although I like the simplicity, I think it might be worth somehow taking account for seasonable variability. There a number of Agreed. In Cornwall, for example, roads that are very quiet for most of the year

[Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, Sending this to talk-gb@ first (rather than tagging@ or talk@) as I'm just floating an idea... I've long wanted to get motor traffic levels on rural roads into OSM. Traffic levels make a huge difference to the enjoyability of rural cycling, and would enable really fun rendering

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Mann
Traffic planners typically measure motor-vehicles-per-day (and quote it to the nearest thousand), so I'd do traffic=1000, with advice somewhere that you can use 1000* off-peak cars-per minute as an approximation. 10* motor-vehicles per peak-hour is also a common rule-of-thumb (but I wouldn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, I think in my part of the SW the large majority of highway=unclassified would be =1 car a minute average so just from a tagging perspective it would be a lot easier just tagging those few that are busier. Kevin On 20 January 2011 12:48, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Craig Loftus
I like the idea. And although I like the simplicity, I think it might be worth somehow taking account for seasonable variability. There a number of quiet roads in the Lakes etc. atm that I wouldn't want to walk down in the summer. Perhaps the simplest approach would be using traffic:note to say

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kevin Peat wrote: I think in my part of the SW the large majority of highway=unclassified would be =1 car a minute average so just from a tagging perspective it would be a lot easier just tagging those few that are busier. I'm very envious... if only I could say the same of the large

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Mann wrote: Traffic planners typically measure motor-vehicles-per-day (and quote it to the nearest thousand), so I'd do traffic=1000, with advice somewhere that you can use 1000* off-peak cars-per minute as an approximation. Whatever - I tend to leave that sort of stuff to the