Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Miller
There are various waterway views available using ITO Map, as well as many others. They all have global coverage and are updated daily (rarely more than 24 delay on getting new data on the map). http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3 (general water view)

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2012-01-01 Thread Will Abson
Hi Graham, I came across your waterways map a little while ago, and thought it was a great visualisation tool. I'm just now trying to take a fresh look at some of the waterways data for the UK that's held within OSM, but I see that your map is sadly no longer accessible (I get a 404). If you'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2012-01-01 Thread Graham Jones
Hi Will, I have put what I had previously back on line at http://www.maps.webhop.net/canals. The data is quite out of date (maybe 10 months) - I realised that I am lacking the 'boat=' tag from my database so can not re-render it tonight - I will re-generate it over the next couple of days. I did

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-02-02 Thread Graham Jones
Hi Folks, Thanks to Chris for reminding me, I have updated my canals / waterways map - it should now be up to date as of the early hours of this morning ( http://maps.webhop.net/canals). It looks like good progress from the last update - much more like a network now, but there are still some

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Ed Loach
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. Graham from my phone ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. That's putting it mildly. :) I knew our waterway coverage was erratic but I hadn't realised it was _that_ poor. Navigable rivers are particularly

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Kerr
, James Davis jam...@jml.net wrote: From: James Davis jam...@jml.net Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 10:07 On 19 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Graham Jones wrote: Dealing with 'disused' was nice and easy - I have deleted

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread kevin
: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) On 20/01/11 10:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. That's putting it mildly. :) I knew our waterway

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wed, 19 January, 2011 22:27:59 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) The Grantham canal round here varies in quality from Being in a pipe under the road for a big stretch Looking like a normal canal but with all the locks missing/ damaged Drained of water

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Hughes
On 20/01/11 11:09, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote: I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but non-navigable. Well the New River is always fun - as the signs say, it's neither New nor a River ;-) Whether it's a canal is an interesting question... I think the best

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Brian Prangle
It would be good to have leisure=marina then Gas Street Basin (and others) in Birmingham would render On 20 January 2011 11:11, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 20/01/11 11:09, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote: I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but non-navigable.

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jerry Clough wrote: I'd also second TomH: there are lots of things showing as navigable which look odd: Cromford Canal from Cromford to Ambergate (now a nature reserve, and possibly an SSSI) That is navigable, and navigated, though not as much as it was when first restored in the 1980s

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/01/2011 11:10, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Certainly the Grantham Canal is a good place to clarify how to tag canals in various states of disuse: ... ... Cromford Canal from Cromford to Ambergate ... Mea culpa for parts of both of those. I think that I used canoeable (i.e. having

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Someoneelse wrote: I suspect that you could probably get a larger boat along the top bit (just south of Ambergate) without too many issues, but I think the bottom bit had signs suggesting not to disturb anything. From WW's most recent article on the Cromford: As a gateway to the World

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
IIRC). From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thu, 20 January, 2011 12:21:58 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) Someoneelse wrote: I suspect that you could probably get a larger boat along the top bit

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread martyn
In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional narrowboats. I'm not a waterway

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 20/01/2011 05:59, Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. The gaps are most likely due to missing boat=yes tags. I noticed that one river I mapped had a couple of gaps sure enough,

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 20/01/2011 13:56, martyn wrote: In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
The Lichfield and Hatherton canal aqueduct, over the M6 Toll, is a case in point: http://www.lhcrt.org.uk/aqueduct.htm On 20 January 2011 10:48, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: James Davis wrote: Dealing with 'disused' was nice and easy - I have deleted disused locks altogether

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Richard, A direct link to an editor would be really neat...Do you know how to do it? I suppose I need to use javascript to detect that you have clicked on the 'edit' link, then update the link to be the map origin? Or is there an easy way - not sure how the 'Permalink' thing works - I'll dig

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Chance
I used the OpenStreetMap homepage code for inspiration and wrote a stripped down version for this page: http://www.openecomaps.co.uk/map.php Basically you give the link an ID, get the relevant variables from OpenLayers and register events to update the link every time the map changes.

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Tom, Richard, I think I have got an alternative way of doing it - the Openlayers Permalink control can take a 'base' parameter, which is the url base that it links to (like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit). It is working on http://maps.webhop.net/canals now. Not as pretty as the main OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Another cause of 'odd gaps' seems to be large rivers that have riverbanks drawn (waterway=riverbank), but no way down the middle tagged as waterway=river. I am minded to keep the rendering unchanged on the grounds that the wiki says it should have the waterway=river way (

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Graham Jones wrote: I think I have got an alternative way of doing it - the Openlayers Permalink control can take a 'base' parameter, which is the url base that it links to (like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit). It is working on http://maps.webhop.net/canals now. That works brilliantly

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Thanks - I think it does show that I need to render to higher zoom levels - it is nice to zoom in more before switching to Potlatch to reduce the load time, but you lose my overlay tiles first. I am importing the UK OSM database into a little virtual server at the moment - once that is done I

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-19 Thread Graham Jones
Thank you all for your comments. Dealing with 'disused' was nice and easy - I have deleted disused locks altogether and changed disused canals to a fainter, dotted line (see just north of Carnforth near Lancaster). I am not sure I have ever seen a 'disused' canal - does this mean a ditch, or

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-19 Thread Chris Moss
On 19/01/11 21:28, Graham Jones wrote: What points of interest should a waterways map highlight In a rough order: tunnels, swing bridges, boatyards (marinas), mooring points, water points, pumpouts, aqueducts, bridges, pubs. That's just a wish list... Chris

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-19 Thread Kev js1982
The Grantham canal round here varies in quality from Being in a pipe under the road for a big stretch Looking like a normal canal but with all the locks missing/ damaged Drained of water and full of weeds Looking like a normal canal but full of algee and other stagnet strenches Oh, and most

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-19 Thread Graham Jones
I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. Graham from my phone On 19 Jan 2011 22:28, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: The Grantham canal round here varies in quality from Being in a pipe under the road