Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

[Philip Barnes]

On Fri, 2020-03-20 at 18:11 +0100, Colin Smale wrote:
> If there is anyone who keeps a weather eye on South-West London, in
> particular the Twickenham area, would they like to cast their eye
> over the changesets of a brand-new user "tommyf5"? He has been busy
> today making many changes that I would class as "fiddling" and don't
> look right, but a local eye would be beneficial. Examples are
> demoting St Margarets from suburb to neighbourhood, and renaming ways
> adjacent to a junction as "Whitton Road Intersection".
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tommyf5
> Thanks!
The mapper does now seem to have moved on to 'inventing' a
neighbourhood in Blaine, Minnesota.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/783304688 id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker">

Phil (trigpoint)

 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

[Stuart Reynolds via Talk-GB]

Hi Dave,

No, it doesn’t.

However, I now understand your comments about Govia Thameslink. The rail 
industry data has two different types of bus services within its data. There 
are “BR” services which are “bus replacement” and there are “BS” services, 
which are “bus services”. The former do what they say on the tin. The latter 
are ordinary (non-rail) bus services that are in the data to allow the rail 
industry to ticket you to places that you cannot get to by train. Once upon a 
time it was perfectly possible to buy a rail ticket to Dunstable, despite there 
not being a station there. I don’t believe it is possible now, though - the 
national rail website doesn’t recognise Dunstable, and the latest MSN (Master 
Station Names) file from ATOC doesn’t list it either. I suspect then that there 
isn’t a CRS code for Dunstable.

Even if there was, I would be very surprised if that was the stop used. Far 
more likely to be The Quadrant or ASDA or Church Street (formerly The Winston 
Churchill until it shut) which are more in the centre.

Regards,
Stuart

On 22 Mar 2020, at 15:56, Dave F 
mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

Thanks. Useful.
From your data can you confirm if it has a 3-digit/CRS code?

On 22/03/2020 15:05, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
Hi Dave,

I maintain the electronic timetable and stops data for Central Bedfordshire, 
which includes Dunstable.

According to my data, that road (and the associated bus stop) are used by 
Arriva services F70 and F77 between Luton and Milton Keynes.

The road is indeed one way - it is the exit from the westbound busway. The 
entrance back onto the busway is Church Street.

As to the location, the NaPTAN data is correct, using coordinates supplied to 
my by Central Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, 
orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. 
So yes, it is incorrect in OSM.

Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east and anglia

On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>
 wrote:

Hi
If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way 
is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?

 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564

The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway.

There's a contributor who claims there a service, run by Govia Thameslink, 
which goes to Luton, which is a bit surprising as it's oneway. It also means 
the bus stop is located on the wrong side of the road.

Cheers
DaveF


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Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

Thanks. Useful.
From your data can you confirm if it has a 3-digit/CRS code?

On 22/03/2020 15:05, Stuart Reynolds wrote:

Hi Dave,

I maintain the electronic timetable and stops data for Central Bedfordshire, 
which includes Dunstable.

According to my data, that road (and the associated bus stop) are used by 
Arriva services F70 and F77 between Luton and Milton Keynes.

The road is indeed one way - it is the exit from the westbound busway. The 
entrance back onto the busway is Church Street.

As to the location, the NaPTAN data is correct, using coordinates supplied to 
my by Central Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, 
orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. 
So yes, it is incorrect in OSM.

Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east and anglia

On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:

Hi
If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way 
is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?

  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564

The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway.

There's a contributor who claims there a service, run by Govia Thameslink, 
which goes to Luton, which is a bit surprising as it's oneway. It also means 
the bus stop is located on the wrong side of the road.

Cheers
DaveF


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Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

[Stuart Reynolds]

Hi Dave,

I maintain the electronic timetable and stops data for Central Bedfordshire, 
which includes Dunstable.

According to my data, that road (and the associated bus stop) are used by 
Arriva services F70 and F77 between Luton and Milton Keynes.

The road is indeed one way - it is the exit from the westbound busway. The 
entrance back onto the busway is Church Street.

As to the location, the NaPTAN data is correct, using coordinates supplied to 
my by Central Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, 
orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. 
So yes, it is incorrect in OSM.

Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east and anglia

On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:

Hi
If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way 
is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?

 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564

The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway.

There's a contributor who claims there a service, run by Govia Thameslink, 
which goes to Luton, which is a bit surprising as it's oneway. It also means 
the bus stop is located on the wrong side of the road.

Cheers
DaveF


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[Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

Hi
If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if 
this way is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the 
Western end exists?


 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564

The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway.

There's a contributor who claims there a service, run by Govia 
Thameslink, which goes to Luton, which is a bit surprising as it's 
oneway. It also means the bus stop is located on the wrong side of the 
road.


Cheers
DaveF


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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #504 2020-03-10-2020-03-16

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 504,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

 https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12980/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

[Andy Townsend]

On 21/03/2020 11:18, Andrew Hain wrote:

Further issues:

Richmond rugby ground tagged addr:city=London Borough of Hounslow
Middlesex changed to county
Fulwell bus garage tagged name=Fulwell Bus Garage (Middlesex)

There are some legitimate edits there such as shop=supermarket for 
Lidl Fulwell, payment tags for M Food To Go in Twickenham may be 
legitimate and the department store tagging was by another mapper by 
an editor preset.




I saw the M one and suspect that the confusing tagging there is likely 
due to an iD editor restriction, not something that a new mapper is 
likely to be able to figure out how to fix. I've not been to Twickenham 
for many years and so can't comment on what the correct values would be 
there.


They haven't replied at 
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=10920176 - I 
suspects its a case of "all I wanted to do was edit things and now this 
thing keeps sending me messages!".  Their most recent OSM edits seem to 
be elsewhere.


I'd imagine that most of their problem edits can be tidied up manually 
(and thanks to all who have already done so), but if there's anything 
that can't please mail the DWG at d...@osmfoundation.org so that we can 
take a look.


Best Regards,

Andy

(from OSM's Data Working Group)



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