Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] trying to get a Wheelchair kurb project off the ground
On 24 March 2015 at 08:44, Mark Croft mark.croft@gmail.com wrote: [ I accidentally replied to Mark, not to the mailing list (apologies, Mark), so am reposting my reply, and part of his response, below] The main goal at the moment is try to get a record of all the drop kerbs in a small area around kidderminster maybe other parts of worcestershire depending on the volunteers we got at the moment. How are you tagging them? Can you link to some examples, please, and is there a page on the wiki about the tag? Would anyone else like to get involved with this project? I'll help where I can. This could be one of our quarterly projects. #~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# Mark then replied to the effect that he needs advice on the best way to tag dropped kerbs, and with a link to: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/sloped_curb but I also note: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb Mark also suggests asking Worcestershire County Council for their data; and I agree that this would be a good move. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
Some more detail in the following article. Includes the assessment that it offers spatial data that is generally much higher in accuracy than most building shapes already on OpenStreetMap http://oobrien.com/2015/03/os-open/ Rob On 24 March 2015 at 17:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
Hi All Just had a quick look at the OpenData, in summary: - Buildings are slightly more detailed, basically vector versions of the one on the streetview raster map - All of the rest, forests, rivers, are no different than the current Vector data we already have (AFAIK). Forests,rivers etc are the same size as the older data. - Roads seem to include a few more details, but not enough detail on them for accurate usage in OSM. So basically, it gives us slightly improved buildings, but they are still highly simplified in terms of their pay for products. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-london] Mapping Planning Meeting - Tomorrow 7pm - Penderel's Oak
On Wednesday 25th March (That's tomorrow!) we will be holding a Mapping Planning Meeting at The Penderel's Oak pub from 7pm As we enter spring and approach the start of British Summer Time we need to look at the state of London's OpenStreetMap coverage and plan some mapping. What are the data types of focus on? Most interesting data to map? Most in-demand data? Most glaring omissions? Where will we hold mapping events? Which pubs will we go to? All of these are to be discussed in this mapping planning meeting. The Penderel's Oak pub is here: http://osm.org/go/euu4mauUg-?m= It's between Holborn and Chancery Lane tube. We'll be there from 7pm This is a big pub. We'll aim to get a table somewhere near the main entrance. We'll also aim to get organised with an OpenStreetMap sign and / or an orange OSM Surveyors Jacket / Polo shirts. Sign up on lanyrd: http://lanyrd.com/2015/mapping-planning-meeting/ By signing up there, you make the event look more popular (Note: A lot of people don't bother signing up. We expect between 5 and 15 people) As always... London events listed here: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/London#Upcoming_Events And you should follow https://twitter.com/OSMLondon Harry ___ Talk-gb-london mailing list Talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-london
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
My understanding was that the river dataset is now fully connected (and wasn't before). Is this not the case? Are there any attributes on the building vector data? Rob On 24 Mar 2015 18:28, tony wroblewski tony.wroblew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Just had a quick look at the OpenData, in summary: - Buildings are slightly more detailed, basically vector versions of the one on the streetview raster map - All of the rest, forests, rivers, are no different than the current Vector data we already have (AFAIK). Forests,rivers etc are the same size as the older data. - Roads seem to include a few more details, but not enough detail on them for accurate usage in OSM. So basically, it gives us slightly improved buildings, but they are still highly simplified in terms of their pay for products. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
I've just checked the buildings shape file, and every single entry has the same feature code unfortunately, the same with woodland. There is however a functional site shape file which gives outlines of where some key buildings are, along with their names, e.g. Schools, Hospitals. So this will be useful. In the download I did (OpenMap), the waterways weren't connected, but there is a separate download of water features which might be better quality. I'll give it a try shortly and see if it's any better. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 19:34, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding was that the river dataset is now fully connected (and wasn't before). Is this not the case? Are there any attributes on the building vector data? Rob On 24 Mar 2015 18:28, tony wroblewski tony.wroblew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Just had a quick look at the OpenData, in summary: - Buildings are slightly more detailed, basically vector versions of the one on the streetview raster map - All of the rest, forests, rivers, are no different than the current Vector data we already have (AFAIK). Forests,rivers etc are the same size as the older data. - Roads seem to include a few more details, but not enough detail on them for accurate usage in OSM. So basically, it gives us slightly improved buildings, but they are still highly simplified in terms of their pay for products. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
Hi All The river network download is country wide, and does include connecting node information, along with the names. The data is much better quality and more accurate than some of the older imported stuff in OSM. It only includes major rivers and streams and is simplified, it does not include drains, etc.. The road download is also country wide, it includes connecting node information and also the names of the roads. It also seems to include residential roads. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 19:34, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding was that the river dataset is now fully connected (and wasn't before). Is this not the case? Are there any attributes on the building vector data? Rob On 24 Mar 2015 18:28, tony wroblewski tony.wroblew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Just had a quick look at the OpenData, in summary: - Buildings are slightly more detailed, basically vector versions of the one on the streetview raster map - All of the rest, forests, rivers, are no different than the current Vector data we already have (AFAIK). Forests,rivers etc are the same size as the older data. - Roads seem to include a few more details, but not enough detail on them for accurate usage in OSM. So basically, it gives us slightly improved buildings, but they are still highly simplified in terms of their pay for products. Tony On 24 March 2015 at 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
I have had an initial look at the three new open data products that contain road names: OS Open Map, OS Open Names and OS Open Roads. I was hoping they might provide new information for improving the accuracy and completeness of road naming, but my preliminary conclusion is that they offer very little for this purpose. They all contain the same misspellings as OS Locator. It has been noted that some OS paid-for products (MasterMap in particular) don't contain most of the misspellings, so I thought there was a small chance that one of these products might not as well. I was also hoping that OS Open Names might have included named residential paths (those where the names function as a 'street' in an address), but that isn't the case. I suspect OS Open Names includes exactly the same street names as OS Locator. Secondly, I looked at whether OS Open Map or OS Open Roads could be used to check whether segments of streets in OSM have the correct name - for example whether names start and end in the correct position - but I have found the naming of the streets in these data sets has been simplified in a way that makes them unreliable for this purpose. For example, I immediately noticed the name of the street on which I live is missing. The street is present but is combined with an adjoining street and only given the name of the other street. This simplification seems to have been done everywhere. Therefore, please don't assume part of a street is wrongly named based solely on this data, because it is unsuitable for that purpose. Will On 24/03/2015 17:58, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, So the new OS OpenData that was discussed a few weeks ago is now available: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/03/new-os-opendata-products-now-live/ I think there could be many good uses of this including to help validate some of our data. If anyone is using this then let us know so that we don't duplicate work. Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New OS open data now available
I'd suggest you use OSM as it'll likely be more accurate. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
