Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Lester Caine]

On 09/04/2020 20:58, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote:

If uprn is supposed to denote an address, why not simply use addr:uprn?
There is no intention that UPRN will replace an address. It will be able 
to return a unique address but there will be no move to remove that 
duplicate data from OSM. What the UPRN allows is the addition of 
external information which is also managed by public services.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[ndrw6]

If uprn is supposed to denote an address, why not simply use addr:uprn?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Dan S]

Op do 9 apr. 2020 om 19:47 schreef Lester Caine :
>
> On 09/04/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote:
> >> So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
> >> ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?
> >
> > I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent.
>
> That is ideal from my point of view ... yes you can get the country by
> processing the location information, but being able to simply list all
> of them WITHOUT the overhead of other processing has to be the right way
> forward?

We could make such an argument about any tag, e.g. "addr:postcode"
couldn't we? Someone who wants a GB-only list can easily get them from
a GB extract such as Geofabrik's.

On the other hand I'm happy with "ref:gb:uprn" and "ref:gb:usrn" if
preferred (can we use lowercase for convenience please?) since it
seems these terms are not global.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

[Jez Nicholson]

That's a great idea. I'll get the OSMUK machine rolling.

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, 17:27 Andy Mabbett,  wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L  wrote:
>
> > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP
> > Surgeries and health sites.
>
> Good to know; thank you.
>
> Do we have, or plan, any social media promotion of this activity? I'd
> be happy to amplify it, and my contacts at Wikimedia UK will do so,
> too.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Lester Caine]

On 09/04/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote:

So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?


I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent.


That is ideal from my point of view ... yes you can get the country by 
processing the location information, but being able to simply list all 
of them WITHOUT the overhead of other processing has to be the right way 
forward?


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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Mark Goodge]

On 09/04/2020 17:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 13:06, Mark Goodge  wrote:


They're a 10 to 12 digit integer.


Is there a check digit?


No, they're a simple sequential allocation. So an error can't be 
detected internally, it does need to be verified. But the same is true 
of postcodes and phone numbers, of course.


Similarly to the way that telephone numbers are allocated, though, UPRNs 
are allocated in blocks to local authorities who then assign them out of 
their block. So the first few digits of a UPRN will tell you 
approximately where in the country it is. In fact, you can already link 
a UPRN to administrative geography via existing open data, it's only 
drilling right down to precise coordinates that isn't currently possible.


If I was designing the checkout process for an online retailer that 
allowed customers to enter their UPRN rather than a postal address, what 
I'd do is show them a map, with their UPRN location marked, and ask them 
to confirm that that is, indeed, the premises they want the item 
delivered to. That could be done entirely using open data (once UPRNs 
are open), but a commercial supplier might also want to enhance that by 
using an address lookup to generate the geographic address from the UPRN 
and display that to the customer as well.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

[Andy Mabbett]

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L  wrote:

> The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP
> Surgeries and health sites.

Good to know; thank you.

Do we have, or plan, any social media promotion of this activity? I'd
be happy to amplify it, and my contacts at Wikimedia UK will do so,
too.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Andy Mabbett]

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 13:06, Mark Goodge  wrote:

> They're a 10 to 12 digit integer.

Is there a check digit?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Mark Goodge]

On 09/04/2020 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:


I would have said that ref:uprn and ref:usrn are the natural choices
for use to use. However, I've seen some calls for country codes to be
added to 3rd-party ref values, so we might consider ref:UK:uprn and
ref:UK:usrn instead. This isn't explicitly documented in the wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref though the French
community seems to be using it, as can be seen at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/France/Liste_des_r%C3%A9f%C3%A9rences_nationales
, and I think it might make sense.


I agree that adding a country identifier makes sense. One of the key 
attributes of a UPRN is that it is unique within a country. But it may 
not be globally unique if other countries adopt a similar system. And, 
because it's just an integer, unlike a postcode, you can't infer the 
country from the format. But, on the other hand, adding another layer 
makes it more likely that people will tag them wrongly using what they 
think is the right method simply because that's what's most obvious to them.



I don't see any value in adding NLPG (or it's incorrectly ordered
variant NPLG). Although the National Land and Property Gazetteer is
where the UPRN values originate from, if they're being used as core
identifiers by the government, they're no longer just NLPG values.


I agree with this, too. The NLPG is just a database of UPRNs and other 
data, it isn't the source of them.



I also don't see any benefit in adding a :1 :2 etc suffix to the key
in anticipation of multiple values (which seems to have been done in
several existing UPRN keys). I think this will actually make it harder
for data-users than having a single key name and separating multiple
values with semi-colons. (You would suddenly need to search multiple
different keys to get all possible UPRN-tagged objects.)

So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?


I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Simon Poole]

It would seem to be "rather" unlikely that such reference ids would be
named UPRN and UPSN outside of the UK to start with, so a more generic
building_ref, street_ref or similar would be likely more sensible (if
there is any value at all in mapping these). And yes similar concepts
exist outside of the UK too, however I do not know any case of them
finding wide spread use in lieu of addresses any where.

Simon

Am 09.04.2020 um 16:08 schrieb Gareth L:
> Can’t the key location be inferred by the fact it is within a country bounds 
> rather than redundantly added?
>
> Gareth
>
>> On 9 Apr 2020, at 14:46, Tony OSM  wrote:
>>
>> That makes perfect sense to me.
>>
>> Any other views?
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>> On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
  wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM  wrote:
> If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
> Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?
> What should they be?
>>> [snip]
 So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
 ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?
>>> Oops. If we were to use the ISO Alpha-2 country codes, it should of
>>> course be GB rather then UK. So that would make the keys ref:GB:uprn
>>> and ref:GB:usrn .
>>>
>>> Robert.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Gareth L]

Can’t the key location be inferred by the fact it is within a country bounds 
rather than redundantly added?

Gareth

> On 9 Apr 2020, at 14:46, Tony OSM  wrote:
> 
> That makes perfect sense to me.
> 
> Any other views?
> 
> Tony
> 
>> On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
>>>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM  wrote:
 If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
 Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?
 What should they be?
>> [snip]
>>> So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
>>> ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?
>> Oops. If we were to use the ISO Alpha-2 country codes, it should of
>> course be GB rather then UK. So that would make the keys ref:GB:uprn
>> and ref:GB:usrn .
>> 
>> Robert.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Tony OSM]

That makes perfect sense to me.

Any other views?

Tony

On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
 wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM  wrote:

If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?
What should they be?

[snip]

So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?

Oops. If we were to use the ISO Alpha-2 country codes, it should of
course be GB rather then UK. So that would make the keys ref:GB:uprn
and ref:GB:usrn .

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
 wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM  wrote:
> > If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
> > Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?
> > What should they be?
>
[snip]
>
> So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
> ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?

Oops. If we were to use the ISO Alpha-2 country codes, it should of
course be GB rather then UK. So that would make the keys ref:GB:uprn
and ref:GB:usrn .

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Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

[Jez Nicholson]

I've added Jerry's comments to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites#Potential_sources_and_tools
which
is there for all of you to edit and add to.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:09 PM SK53  wrote:

> Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA 
> site (usefulness is somewhat limited because of on-line pharmacies & in
> hospital ones). Most ordinary pharmacies appear in FHRS data as well.
>
> All CQC data (including dentists & care homes) is available on Will
> Phillips OSM-Nottingham site. Just move the map to the area of interest and
> search for a term using open data sources (this can be restricted to CQC).
> Data are usually located at the post code centroid (this example
> 
> is all CQC entries for DE1 postcode district).
>
> Jerry
>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP Surgeries
>> and health sites. The wiki page is
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites
>>
>>
>>
>> A couple interesting sources of data, the Care Quality Commission appears
>> to provide a data set similar to the food hygiene rating system so should
>> be good for addresses, but they only cover England. Does anyone know of
>> Wales/Scotland/N. Ireland equivalents?
>>
>> https://healthsites.io is a global project which has a lot of overlap.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be good to have a source for pharmacies. A potential source is
>> https://inspections.pharmacyregulation.org/ however it is not
>> immediately clear if they share their data, let alone under what license.
>> Has this been pursued before?
>>
>>
>>
>> Warm regards
>>
>> Gareth
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM  wrote:
> If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
> Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?
> What should they be?

Looking at taginfo, there are a number of different tags in use for
UPRN values (see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=uprn
where ref:NPLG:UPRN:1 is the most popular). I think it would be good
to agree on a standard key to use before too many more are added. USRN
values are more standardised:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=usrn with ref:usrn and
NPLG:USRN:1 being the only two keys in use. (NPLG presumably refers to
the National Land and Property Gazetteer -- see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Land_and_Property_Gazetteer --
but the middle two letters are the wrong way round.)

I would have said that ref:uprn and ref:usrn are the natural choices
for use to use. However, I've seen some calls for country codes to be
added to 3rd-party ref values, so we might consider ref:UK:uprn and
ref:UK:usrn instead. This isn't explicitly documented in the wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref though the French
community seems to be using it, as can be seen at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/France/Liste_des_r%C3%A9f%C3%A9rences_nationales
, and I think it might make sense.

I don't see any value in adding NLPG (or it's incorrectly ordered
variant NPLG). Although the National Land and Property Gazetteer is
where the UPRN values originate from, if they're being used as core
identifiers by the government, they're no longer just NLPG values.

I also don't see any benefit in adding a :1 :2 etc suffix to the key
in anticipation of multiple values (which seems to have been done in
several existing UPRN keys). I think this will actually make it harder
for data-users than having a single key name and separating multiple
values with semi-colons. (You would suddenly need to search multiple
different keys to get all possible UPRN-tagged objects.)

So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or
ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think?

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Mark Goodge]

On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to 
order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a 
birthday card?


(I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as 
easy to remember as "Rose Cottage, 3 Church Lane, XX3 4ZZ")


They're a 10 to 12 digit integer. At most, that's one digit longer than 
a telephone number. It's shorter than a credit card number. Mine is 
100121279888. For memorability, I could format that as 1001 2127 9888, 
pronounced "one thousand and one, two one two seven, nine triple-eight".


It isn't necessary to remember all of them, or even any of them, other 
than your own. Once they're open data they can be stored in any address 
book, along with things like email address and phone numbers. And to 
find out where they actually are, you just search for them on Google 
Maps, OSM, Bing Maps or any other mapping provider. Imagine, for 
example, that I have this entry in my phone's contact list:


Alice Example
phone: 01234 567890
mobile: 07654 321321
email: al...@example.com
uprn: 123456789012

If I want to phone Alice, I just tap on the number and the phone dials 
it. If I want to email Alice, I tap on the email address and my phone 
opens the email app with her address prefilled as the recipient. And if 
I want to visit her, I tap on the UPRN and my phone opens the default 
mapping app with a marker showing her location, and offers to provide me 
with directions on how to get there. I don't need to look up anything 
other than her name.


That doesn't stop anyone using the existing methods of storing an 
address. But it will make it hugely simpler for anyone who stores them 
in bulk, such as online retailers.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

[SK53]

Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA  site
(usefulness is somewhat limited because of on-line pharmacies & in hospital
ones). Most ordinary pharmacies appear in FHRS data as well.

All CQC data (including dentists & care homes) is available on Will
Phillips OSM-Nottingham site. Just move the map to the area of interest and
search for a term using open data sources (this can be restricted to CQC).
Data are usually located at the post code centroid (this example

is all CQC entries for DE1 postcode district).

Jerry

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP Surgeries and
> health sites. The wiki page is
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites
>
>
>
> A couple interesting sources of data, the Care Quality Commission appears
> to provide a data set similar to the food hygiene rating system so should
> be good for addresses, but they only cover England. Does anyone know of
> Wales/Scotland/N. Ireland equivalents?
>
> https://healthsites.io is a global project which has a lot of overlap.
>
>
>
> It would be good to have a source for pharmacies. A potential source is
> https://inspections.pharmacyregulation.org/ however it is not immediately
> clear if they share their data, let alone under what license. Has this been
> pursued before?
>
>
>
> Warm regards
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Lester Caine]

On 09/04/2020 10:46, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi Lester,

Sorry if my post was a bit of a rant.  I have a history of having to 
fight to get IT systems that do the hard work and preventing them 
demanding that people do the translation into "machine-speak".
My rant has always been that postcodes are proprietary data and even in 
the NLPG data there is a question on if one can use it! The whole thing 
has always been a mess. Postal Address File I have no problem on being 
proprietary, just not the postcode on it's own ...



Thanks for the explanation.


I've had to change most of the references but
https://rainbowdigitalmedia.uk/wiki/view/NLPG+Data
is now up to date, just again, BS7666 is another chargeable element and 
my copy is no longer available on-line :(


OH and it should be UPRN/USRN nowadays ... my 2006 databases still have 
the USN field name.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Hi Lester,
Sorry if my post was a bit of a rant.  I have a history of having to fight to 
get IT systems that do the hard work and preventing them demanding that people 
do the translation into "machine-speak".
Thanks for the explanation.
Regards,Peter
On Thursday, 9 April 2020, 10:29:05 BST, Lester Caine  
wrote:  
 
 On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
> So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to 
> order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a 
> birthday card?
> 
> (I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as 
> easy to remember as "Rose Cottage, 3 Church Lane, XX3 4ZZ")
> 
> We have to think about human readability and memorability, versus 
> machine computability and we need to be careful not to make the humans 
> do all the work, just to make it easier for the machines.  Making me use 
> a PostCode is already making me do some of the work, but at least they 
> are only 6 or 7 characters.

The NLPG is intended to provide a single database of all the land in the 
United Kingdom. Councils have been building this for many years now, and 
it allows parcels of land that the Post Office do not have any reference 
to in their Postal Address File to be uniquely identified. Looking up 
data using Postcodes can be fun but often due to people having the wrong 
postcode anyway. We can identify the vast majority of residential and 
business locations using 'building Number'/'Postcode', but additional 
data is useful to identify that this short form is actually correct, but 
your council tax or business rates will be charged against the UPRN 
reference on the council systems. It is not intended to be anything 
other than a 'machine readable' unique refference ...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Lester Caine]

On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to 
order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a 
birthday card?


(I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as 
easy to remember as "Rose Cottage, 3 Church Lane, XX3 4ZZ")


We have to think about human readability and memorability, versus 
machine computability and we need to be careful not to make the humans 
do all the work, just to make it easier for the machines.  Making me use 
a PostCode is already making me do some of the work, but at least they 
are only 6 or 7 characters.


The NLPG is intended to provide a single database of all the land in the 
United Kingdom. Councils have been building this for many years now, and 
it allows parcels of land that the Post Office do not have any reference 
to in their Postal Address File to be uniquely identified. Looking up 
data using Postcodes can be fun but often due to people having the wrong 
postcode anyway. We can identify the vast majority of residential and 
business locations using 'building Number'/'Postcode', but additional 
data is useful to identify that this short form is actually correct, but 
your council tax or business rates will be charged against the UPRN 
reference on the council systems. It is not intended to be anything 
other than a 'machine readable' unique refference ...


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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Lester Caine]

On 09/04/2020 09:19, Tony OSM wrote:

Thanks to Andy for highlighting this.

If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.
As someone who has been using this data internally for clients who are 
the councils who have been providing it TO the charged for services I'm 
pleased that now I will not have to worry about linking that data to OSM 
data.



Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:NPLG:UPRN:1
has existed for a while, but the matching Key:ref:NPLG:UPSN:1 doesn't as 
yet. Personally I think this style is messy and a GB/UK element would 
make sense ... and actually identifying that this is United Kingdom 
related in the wiki page would be helpful!



What should they be?

Do we need a wiki for them , where?  I'll summarise the answers and 
create a wiki page if someone tells me where to place it - a UK specific 
page or section?


Any traction in creating tools to help populating any new tags?
It will be nice to see just what level if data is provided on the public 
feed when it becomes available. The level and accuracy of the data IS 
very much dependent on the level of effort that each council puts in, 
with some providing the full details of the land area described while 
others only provide a location reference. So there will be some problems 
producing a 'generic' tool to add UPRN tags to buildings and land plots. 
USN references should be a lot easier to automatically merge since the 
street name provided via OS data sets is the same one as used in USPN 
... or should be ...



Could this be a subject for a discussion as the probably virtual OSM AGM?


This is just a United Kingdom discussion currently although as I 
understand it a few other countries do have something similar so a 
common country based tag for 'Property Reference' and 'Street Reference' 
may be a valid subject. But UPRN and USN seem right anyway.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

[Tony OSM]

Thanks to Andy for highlighting this.

If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging.

Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data?

What should they be?

Do we need a wiki for them , where?  I'll summarise the answers and 
create a wiki page if someone tells me where to place it - a UK specific 
page or section?


Any traction in creating tools to help populating any new tags?

Could this be a subject for a discussion as the probably virtual OSM AGM?

 Regards - and stay safe

Tony Shield

TonyS999

On 02/04/2020 16:08, Andy Mabbett wrote:

"Unique Property and Street Reference Numbers to become the standard
way of referencing and sharing address information about properties
and streets across government, helping to transform public services
and boost our economy"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/geospatial-commission-to-release-core-identifiers-under-open-government-licence



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