Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Hain wrote: > What distinction would you make between this and the cycle > route over steps that was discussed recently or the > signposted cycle route past cycle barriers in Barnes, > London? "Cycle routes" as a distinct concept don't have any legal force, other than authorised forms of

Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

2020-12-15 Thread Andrew Hain
What distinction would you make between this and the cycle route over steps that was discussed recently or the signposted cycle route past cycle barriers in Barnes, London? -- Andrew From: Richard Fairhurst Sent: 14 December 2020 20:57 To: talk-gb OSM List

[Talk-GB] Parallel barriers - unsure about my own edit

2020-12-15 Thread Chris Hodges
On a bridleway near me, to cross the same fence line, there's a horse stile that's also a gate (was tagged gate, I've changed to horse_stile as the gate is locked and of interest mainly to the landowner). I've seen these called stepover gates; they're to keep out motorbikes. Next to it is a

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 15/12/2020 15:06, Simon Still wrote: > > >> On 15 Dec 2020, at 14:35, Robert Skedgell > > wrote: >> >> If 1057 is used on a carriageway >> rather than on a lane or track, it presumably indicates a route, >> although TSRGD 2016 does not elaborate upon this - is there

Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-15 Thread Donald Noble
Just to add my opinion on this, I would also agree with Jerry that addr:interpolation on a node/building with an addr:housenumber=1-5 would seem an obvious and logical way. To reply to Mateusz, I think the situation in the UK may be different, as they note. There are several addresses I am aware

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Simon Still
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 17:39, Andy Allan wrote: > > es. > > * Not all bike paths are part of a larger signed cycling route. > * Not all bike lanes are part of a larger signed cycling route. But any cycle infrastructure that DOES exist - eg short sections of protected cycleway - will be picked

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 15:09, Simon Still wrote: > Not by any means. 1057’s are the ‘go-to’ way to DO SOMETHING for traffic > engineers. > > - Cyclists getting hit by cars at a junction? Paint some 1057s across it ‘to > alert drivers that there may be cyclists there” (though of course drivers

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-15 Thread Ken Kilfedder
> But route-finding software needs to know the legal position. Mapping > something as cycles-only, when in fact it can also be used on foot, will > break a lot of valid pedestrian routes. Agreed. I'm not talking about mapping/tagging for use by route-finding software; I'm talking about how

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Simon Still
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 14:35, Robert Skedgell wrote: > > If 1057 is used on a carriageway > rather than on a lane or track, it presumably indicates a route, > although TSRGD 2016 does not elaborate upon this - is there an LTN which > does? Not by any means. 1057’s are the ‘go-to’ way to DO

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 15/12/2020 13:26, Simon Still wrote: > See discussion on  > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95752985#map=18/51.46201/-0.12146=C > > > There appear to be a large number of sections of road in some areas of >

Re: [Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Jon Pennycook
Outside London, these days I tend to use direction signs or named route signs (eg named after planets/satellites/dwarf planets in Woking, or colours in Bracknell, or the "Cycling Discoveries" signs in north Hampshire) as an indication of an LCN/RCN. In the past, I had looser criteria, and I

[Talk-GB] What is needed for something to be classified as a 'cycle route' (London)

2020-12-15 Thread Simon Still
See discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95752985#map=18/51.46201/-0.12146=C There appear to be a large number of sections of road in some areas of London tagged as ‘cycle route’ that are no more

Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

2020-12-15 Thread ael via Talk-GB
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:15:47PM +, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 20:57, ael via Talk-GB > wrote: > > > I would regard this as vandalism if it is removing surveyed real stiles > > to suit an ideal world where they are not permitted on bridleways. > > I favour the