Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node (the node and note are linked in other countries). That's an extra step for the local mapper however. I have actually mapped one of these but have refrained from adding information about the manufacturer for fear

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:26 PM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 05/03/2015 20:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node Could you have a go at locating these notes a bit better than the previous reverted import

Re: [Talk-GB] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To be clear, I encourage people to get involved in all open proposals, not just the one: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_features_%22Voting%22 The voting process helps to refine tagging proposals: they often get better during the process.

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This import is now complete. For the UK the nodes were omitted: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/329258 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Please consider participating in the wiki voting for: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station These sites have various names including dump station, dump point, caravan dump station, sanitary station, Elsan disposal point (UK), pumpout, and chemical dump point

[Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
User richardwest and a few others added a few Elsan Points along Canals in the UK: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2591597652/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2755755468/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2891630633/ I've checked with Richard about this, to make sure the current tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=dump Has a lot lower usage than disposal, but *I* don't like the use of 'sanitary' ... that is more of a problem than the dump/disposal question! The tagging numbers are skewed

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To summarize: Nobody likes to talk about waste, so euphemisms abound. Past tagging has been all over the map, and the same tags were used in Europe for dog_waste bins as well as motorhome dump points.

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out Very firmly

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here are some totally typical prior taggings of this feature (in land vehicle form): http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3075600244 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/369645049 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Is there any intrinsic difference between one for boats and one for motorhomes? If they are actually pretty much the same thing, maybe the difference would better be expressed by *access=customers* or purely

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: On 21/04/2015 18:08, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Are what's presently tagged elsan_point /both/ walk up toilets /and/ CDP chemical holding tank emptying points? And do they welcome waste originating from Elsan

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Malcome Herring wrote: Waterside facilities provided by CRT (previously known as British Waterways Board - BWB) are accessed by use of a key issued to all waterway license holders. Chemical toilet emptying points are usually within these facilities. Pump-out stations, on the other hand, are

Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile food truck on a schedule) could be: transient:amenity=restaurant cuisine=greasy_spoon;british operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00 name=Greasy Spooning Cafe website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92 So it won't render confusingly with permanently located

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
You can see the issue of how to tag this has come up several times: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station#See_Also With no consensus tagging diverged many ways. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points

2015-04-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: tag - disposal_point Values pump_out:grey (No sewage) pump_out:black(Contains Sewage) pump_out:bilge(May contain oil) pump_out:restricted (note advise restrictions) dump:black(may

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I think I preferred the highway_authority_ref only to differentiate it from a reference applied by any other body. You could have more than one official_ref depending on the referencing body. Why not

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: My hope was that the owners of the mechanic retaggering bots involved would carefully reflect upon this advice and instead try to betterunderstand the subject matter in greater detail beforehand. Nothing in the UK was

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) Yeah, but unlike the real world depicted in the cartoon, OSM *can

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-05-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:08 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: There is really no need to import this type of data in the UK where the mapping culture is to walk/cycle and just go and have a looksee. Well that applies to UK culture in general, choosing to walk is not viewed with suspicion.

Re: [Talk-GB] too many universities in Cambridge

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 23/05/15 16:36, David Earl wrote: As I said, I think the upward compatible change for this is to use a tag with the unique ID of whatever operator While not popular, the addition of identifiers IS now gaining