Re: [Talk-GB] British Waterways
On 07/12/2020 12:52, SK53 wrote: but other operators too Also note that British Waterways Marinas Ltd has now become Aquavistq Waterside Ltd ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hull road renamed after rugby league star - BBC News
On 27/01/2018 13:21, Andy Mabbett wrote: Cool, but my question was "Does anyone have the coordinates, or the ID of the way, please?" Changeset: 55773434 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones
On 18/09/2017 11:03, Brian Prangle wrote: Does anyone have any experience of using drones? I once used a drone to map an inaccessible island in the Humber. The drone's camera can be pointed directly downwards, so I flew it around the island, keeping the high water mark in the centre of the frame. I then used the stored GPS track to update the map. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Naming of places
On 17/08/2017 16:25, Chris Hill wrote: I'd like to replace the name=tag with Hull. +1 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] GB Coastline - PGS vs OS
On 12/12/2016 09:42, Stuart Reynolds wrote: sand is shown all the way out to the end of the pier A practical solution to tidal beach areas is to map them as two areas with a common bound, that being the MHW nominal coastline. The areas above MHW can optionally carry the tag "tidal=no", but the areas below MHW should carry the tag "tidal=yes" and extend down to MLW(or MLWS or LAT). This is important for coastal walkers, who need to know what parts of an inviting beach may not be there on their return! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 02/06/2016 10:10, Jez Nicholson wrote: I'm guessing that the Malcolm H. responding here is the Malcolmh OSM User involved with openseamapif so, could you tell us whether seamark tags are specifically for known/acknowledged navigation objects or whether anything visible from the sea can be a seamark? I am he! A seamark is any object of navigational importance. Onshore wrecks, such as the Purton Hulks, do not fall into this category as they are not a hazard to navigation. I suggest that these objects be tagged as historical wrecks. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 01/06/2016 17:37, Brian Prangle wrote: If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag for hulk Those tags are not suitable for the objects described in the OP. All the categories of seamark:type=hulk are floating objects, whereas the Purton Hulks are beached & non-floatable. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 21/04/2015 18:08, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Are what's presently tagged elsan_point /both/ walk up toilets /and/ CDP chemical holding tank emptying points? And do they welcome waste originating from Elsan-based motorhomes as well as canal boats? This is going to vary from point to point. On-the-ground surveys will be required. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 22/04/2015 08:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out The only safe assumption is (2) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers these use cases. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 21/04/2015 10:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: In the UK is the Elsan trade name used for both the mobile toilet and the fixed spot to empty it? It appears the intent of the elsan_point tag in the UK was the later ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELRMqFZKM ). Yes. This dates from the days when Elsan had the market to themselves in UK, so elsan became the generic term for any chemical toilet (This also happened with vacuum cleaners Hoover - we still refer to any vacuum cleaner as ‘a hoover’). So the word elsan made its way onto the signage for chemical toilet emptying points. --- Note the comparable USA term porta-potty refers to a portable chemical toilet with no separate cassette (usually dragged by trailer to events, construction activity, or in camping areas without sewer access). Note the spelling: “Porta Potti” is a trade name of the Thetford Corporation and refers their chemical toilet products. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org mailto:o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Most canal-side/marina-side are accessed-protected using a 'BWB' key; There also seems to be a card: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/navigating-the-waterways/services-for-boats/how-to-buy-your-pump-out-card I'm not sure which OSM mapped elsan_points are part of the CRT key system, but the network tag was designed for use by someone who does. Waterside facilities provided by CRT (previously known as British Waterways Board - BWB) are accessed by use of a key issued to all waterway license holders. Chemical toilet emptying points are usually within these facilities. Pump-out stations, on the other hand, are necessarily outside usage is controlled by pre-paid charge cards which activate the pump. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon
On 07/12/2014 12:17, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Do Google know something we don't? It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon
On 07/12/2014 12:39, Malcolm Herring wrote: It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ... and on our map! http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/413600880 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Life Ring - British English
On 16/06/2014 10:30, Richard Mann wrote: en-gb is probably lifebuoy Also lifebelt is commonly used. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Life Ring - British English
On 16/06/2014 10:30, Richard Mann wrote: en-gb is probably lifebuoy Also lifebelt is commonly used. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_the_United_Kingdom: For dialling the United Kingdom from overseas, Ofcom and ITU-T recommendation E.123 states that numbers be written in the form: Number Location +44 20 London +44 29 Cardiff +44 113 xxx Leeds +44 116 xxx Leicester +44 131 xxx Edinburgh +44 151 xxx Liverpool +44 1382 xxDundee +44 1386 xxEvesham +44 1865 xxOxford +44 1792 xxSwansea +44 1204 xBolton +44 15396 xSedbergh +44 16977 Brampton ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags
On 05/05/2013 14:25, sk53.osm wrote: I propose to tidy up some shop=* tag values. Synonyms fine but not specific products/services to generic ones as this deletes useful information. e.g: Shops that do key cutting are rarely locksmiths. sandwich shops are a subset of fast food shops, as are fish chip shops. That is important when you are looking for a sandwich rather than a burger. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Missing place=city nodes: Manchester, Leeds
On 28/04/2013 09:49, Nick Whitelegg wrote: don't know Leeds well enough to know what might be thought of as the centre. Leeds Town Hall would the most suitable. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags
On 26/04/2013 00:32, Roy Jamison wrote: Doesn't happen in a democratic society, which OSM embodies. Actually, OSM is more akin to an anarchic society - there is no government to enforce laws, instead we rely on all citizens to self-police. This requires a much higher level of personal responsibility. Everything we do is in the public space, so we must always take care to behave according customary standards. If in doubt, first raise the issue at the parish pump! For global editing, the pump is located in the tagging mailing list. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fowey estuary coastline problem
On 30/01/2013 08:00, Jason Woollacott wrote: Does anybody know if a new coastline will be generated soon? as this should address the problem. There is often a very a long time lag for coastline re-rendering, sometimes several weeks. Because of this long cycle time, it is a good idea to double check any edits to the coastline for discontinuities. If you have broken it wait until the re-rendering, then your error is visible to the world for another few weeks! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts
These are warning beacons to mark the line of reefs. The appropriate OpenSeaMap tagging would be: seamark:type=beacon_special_purpose seamark:beacon_special_purpose:category=artificial_reef seamark:special_purpose_beacon:shape=pile seamark:light:colour=whatever the colour of the light is seamark:light:character=whatever the flashing pattern is seamark:topmark:shape=if it has a topmark, the shape seamark:topmark:colour=if it has a topmark, the colour NB: these tags will only be rendered on OpenSeaMap (an overlay to the StreetMap). man_made=beacon would be appropriate for the StreetMap, although I don't know whether this tag is rendered. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tags for waterways
On 31/01/2011 21:54, Chris Moss wrote: 2. That page says issues include is it navigable by powered craft? but I can't find the relevant tag. Key:boat only relates to access as far as I can see, not to the type of boat. This could be canoe, rowing boat, powered boat, ship, ... Is this important? I use boat=yes to infer navigable. I also use boat=no on the sections adjacent to a weir, with the cut lock tagged boat=yes. What do other mappers of waterways use? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)
On 20/01/2011 05:59, Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. The gaps are most likely due to missing boat=yes tags. I noticed that one river I mapped had a couple of gaps sure enough, no boat=yes. I encourage all riparian mappers to re-visit their efforts differentiate between navigable non-navigable waterways. This applies to canals as well as rivers, since many neglected or disused canals are unnavigable even though they may still be wet. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)
On 20/01/2011 13:56, martyn wrote: In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional narrowboats. I'm not a waterway specialist compared to some contributors here - would this be the most complete set of tags? What else would you add ? waterway=canal name=River Stort Navigation boat=yes cheers, Martyn If it is a river (as in your example), then waterway=river. Some waterways with xxx Navigation names are often mixtures of original rivers and cuts (canals) to circumvent unnavigable sections (weirs, rapids, etc). Use the waterway=canal on those sections. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb