Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey talk tomorrow
Can't quite make that one .. but it sounds great. Any chance of a YouTube'd version appearing? Phil On 11 May 2010 09:51, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hello everyone, In case of interest here: There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from the Ordnance Survey on OpenSpace and the release of free data at my work place tomorrow. It's at Room HC029, Southampton Solent University, 6pm for 6.30pm. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Driving Test routes
I would go the route of contacting them, and saying : Hey, have you heard of OSM? Why don't you stick up proper streetmapping on your website showing the routes, for free? If you donate your route data it will get added to the map and ... ect. I've learned that a reciprocal relationship like this is one of the best ways of getting something from someone. Otherwise, *no* - unless something is clearly marked as copyleft / Creative Commons then it is in copyright, there is no need to display copyright for it to apply. On 13 April 2010 18:50, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Ed Loach wrote: I know there are people out there with time on their hands, just itching to find more uses for OSM. We've bus route maps, cycling route maps, and even in the West Midlands a gritting routes map. Today I stumbled across the fact that driving test routes are on the DSA website in a text format without any worry about them being derived from OS data that hasn't been released. http://www.dsa.gov.uk/AtoZservices_Bannered.asp?Cat=-1TestType=carTypeID=17 Then pick a centre and there should be download links on the right with PDFs describing the routes in text. Of course, the first debate is about whether we can use these. The website displays a Crown Copyright message, but the PDFs don't seem to display any terms/licence/copyright information on them. The terms of use include: not re-use the information for promotion or advertising purposes. Since we don't have such restrictions on the use of OSM data I don't think it is compatible. You could build a separate layer I suppose. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!
I'd echo that sentiment, and say this: Streetview is a product designed to show *streets. *Anything else is just detail to show these in context. It would be a huge mistake for anyone to trace topo details from StreetView into OSM, for these reasons and more! I do think though, that it is an excellent source of street and road information in areas that have not yet been traced ... as long as users don't get over zealous with it. On 8 April 2010 09:14, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: I've just completed a 25 mile stretch of the Centenary Way in Warwickshire and I'm editing now with the aid of OSSV. Generally it's accurate but I've found a track on the wrong side of river and the course of a stream crossing my GPX tracks from the footpath where the footpath clearly stays on one side of the stream. And often there are gaps in waterways where there are none on the ground. I'm sure I'll find more as I continue editing. Also I've had a look at major building outlines in Birmingham - some of which have been demolished. So be careful with the data - it still needs a survey! Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
The streetview announcement is FANTASTIC news for OSM in the UK - as the database is pretty much exactly what is being built - roads / streets / names , etc. We can surely get this as a backdrop layer, like the Yahoo imagery? A bulk import wouldn't be possible, as this is raster data. (Though the rest of the datasets seem to have a vector element, borders ect) Exciting times ... I'll finally have some backing for my small Lincolnshire village without needing to go out and GPS trace the entire place (apologies to the person I may have double replied this to!) On 31 March 2010 23:31, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: On 31 March 2010 15:16, Tristan Thomas tristan.tho...@wikinewsie.orgwrote: As a rare contributor, sorry if my questions seem a bit obvious. What does this actually mean? ie. will OSM now have every single street in it (once imported obviously) and so contributors won't be able to contribute by adding roads (other than new ones)? I don't know exactly what is going to make it from OS to OSM yet, but... It is still good (very important in my opinion) for the map to be checked. For one reason, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Easter_Eggs You can check roads while adding valuable other data, bicycle racks, recycling bins, restaurants, shops, and stuff that might not be on the OS maps (or not on what they have released). In some places it may even be tricky to do an automatic bulk import of OS data, because of duplicating extensive data already added to OSM. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Hi Tom, Not sure I agree that Streetview is 'horrible' - as a free base map it will rival or beat any of the others I have seen. This is even more true for rural areas. I am aware most of the raster stuff got left out, but streetview *is* raster - it says as much in the PDF. What we would want to do, I think, is encourage people to rapidly trace this to form a base map, then set upon the task of checking it for accuracy. Secondly, adding to it all the great features that we know from OSM - with the time burden or walking all the streets gone, that second part should progress more rapidly. Phil On 1 April 2010 00:47, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 01/04/10 00:06, Phil Monger wrote: The streetview announcement is FANTASTIC news for OSM in the UK - as the database is pretty much exactly what is being built - roads / streets / names , etc. StreetView is horrible - the vector data will be far more useful. We can surely get this as a backdrop layer, like the Yahoo imagery? I suspect that will be the best approach, yes. We'll probably want to wait for the Vector Map District release in May though as that will be a better data set than Meridian 2. Of course Boundary Line will also be useful for tracing and that should be available tomorrow. All this assume the license is OK of course, which we won't know until we see it. A bulk import wouldn't be possible, as this is raster data. (Though the rest of the datasets seem to have a vector element, borders ect) It's not raster data. Almost all the raster data got left out. Exciting times ... I'll finally have some backing for my small Lincolnshire village without needing to go out and GPS trace the entire place If it's only a small village then surveying it wouldn't take long anyway ;-) Plus you'll get all sorts of detail that the OS mapping won't have. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
