Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Ed Loach
I just noticed a changeset from user elbatrop which although it says it was to Tie 10 Royal Mail references to known postboxes, it has 1709 nodes in the changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3079245 Assuming this is import related, then linking a ref to a previously mapped

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Gregory Williams
: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach Sent: 10 November 2009 08:20 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones I just noticed a changeset from user elbatrop which although it says it was to Tie 10

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Andy Allan wrote: automated imports of sub-standard data It is probably wishful thinking to hope that they will go away. Not really. We could state that imports are not permitted, and enforce it, if we want to.

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote: As has been mentioned before, the process of hunting down an elusive postbox often has the benefit of some other missing feature getting mapped as well, just because you happen to be in the neighbourhood. I'd agree with that (and can also think of two adjacent

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather have a partially complete, high quality map than a bodge of crap data (NAPTAN, anyone?) that just encourages more people to add crap data and get the community to fix it. I've been mulling over this point that

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Ed Avis
Perhaps I should give a little bit of background, explaining why I have started reconciling Dracos and OSM data, hoping to import it. I've been on many mapping trips around London, to start with mostly filling in missing street names. As the street names have become more complete I have focused

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tom Taylor t...@tomtaylor.co.uk wrote: On 9 Nov 2009, at 16:06, Andy Allan wrote: Please don't. Imports are a real, real annoyance. There's no indication that anyone using the dracos site has located these with any accuracy or personal knowledge - I wouldn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Mike osm-talk...@... writes: I've been looking at the Dracos postbox list http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/ I have recently started work on importing this, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dracos_import.

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-09 Thread Ed Avis
Chris Hill o...@... writes: Please don't import the Draco database into OSM. The quality is very dubious in places. The original FoIA data that it is based on is very, very general. They have to be surveyed on the ground to confirm that they are even within 200m. I acknowledge your and

Re: [Talk-GB] Postboxes Payphones

2009-11-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andy Allan wrote: automated imports of sub-standard data It is probably wishful thinking to hope that they will go away. But one thing we could do to limit damage is to have something like layering in the OSM data base; not thematic layering like in traditional GIS, but source layering.