Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 22:47 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: On 2015-05-06 21:09, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 19:47 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ Looks interesting and show maybe I should pay post boxes more attention. One issue I have with the postbox map, is the the area it returns is too small. There are towns that cannot be reached as a result. For example I enter SY4, and the rectangle returned misses Wem completely. Drag the map to the correct place, then click the Permalink button (in the bottom right). That will give you the postboxes centred on that view. Or you can use the link for OSM Post Box Progress, then pick your postcode area and district. That will show you a map of all of the postboxes in the district. Thanks Craig, can see the area I want now. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
Are you aware of the the PostBox Finder https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elbatrop.postboxeshl=enapp from Elbatrop? I had a quick play with it ages ago, adding some collection times to existing post boxes. Jerry On 5 May 2015 at 23:40, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Whittaker has an excellent site http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ monitoring OSM data on postboxes in the UK. Here you can see progress (even a league table of who's contributing). From the history graph you can see there's been an increase in activity since the project got going. Perhaps Robert might provide some data analysis about the effect of the project. Enter a postcode and you can find all the missing and incorrect postboxes nearby. Wow there are loads of postboxes still missing. Wouldn't it be great if there was a smartphone app that you could load missing points in to and it would tell you about them as you travel around. It would be like a guide to where to go mapping! Geocaching for postboxes anyone? Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
On 2015-05-06 21:09, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 19:47 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ Looks interesting and show maybe I should pay post boxes more attention. One issue I have with the postbox map, is the the area it returns is too small. There are towns that cannot be reached as a result. For example I enter SY4, and the rectangle returned misses Wem completely. Drag the map to the correct place, then click the Permalink button (in the bottom right). That will give you the postboxes centred on that view. Or you can use the link for OSM Post Box Progress, then pick your postcode area and district. That will show you a map of all of the postboxes in the district. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
On 2015-05-06 19:47, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ I really do feel like we are missing a trick here. As the map becomes more and more complete it becomes harder and harder to find something to map (example: I spend more time trying to find missing footpaths that I can map on a circular walk now than 2-3 years ago). An app that helps people find what's missing whilst out surveying could really help. I only wish I had the skills and time to do this. The Post Hoc map has the option of exporting a GPX file. That will include any missing boxes, or boxes with missing refs etc. So you could download that GPX, then load it onto a Garmin, or on a phone app etc. For Android, you could try OSMAnd, it can load GPX files. Or maybe Maps.Me, if you convert it to a KML file. Then you can go out and survey them. Note the Royal Mail locations can be very inaccurate, some of them are on completely the wrong street, or hundreds of metres away. So it can be difficult to actually find the postbox. And there are a few on the Royal Mail list that have now been removed, or where the number on the box doesn't match the list. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 19:47 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ Looks interesting and show maybe I should pay post boxes more attention. One issue I have with the postbox map, is the the area it returns is too small. There are towns that cannot be reached as a result. For example I enter SY4, and the rectangle returned misses Wem completely. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ I really do feel like we are missing a trick here. As the map becomes more and more complete it becomes harder and harder to find something to map (example: I spend more time trying to find missing footpaths that I can map on a circular walk now than 2-3 years ago). An app that helps people find what's missing whilst out surveying could really help. I only wish I had the skills and time to do this. Regards, Rob On 6 May 2015 at 11:29, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: Are you aware of the the PostBox Finder https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elbatrop.postboxeshl=enapp from Elbatrop? I had a quick play with it ages ago, adding some collection times to existing post boxes. Jerry On 5 May 2015 at 23:40, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Whittaker has an excellent site http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ monitoring OSM data on postboxes in the UK. Here you can see progress (even a league table of who's contributing). From the history graph you can see there's been an increase in activity since the project got going. Perhaps Robert might provide some data analysis about the effect of the project. Enter a postcode and you can find all the missing and incorrect postboxes nearby. Wow there are loads of postboxes still missing. Wouldn't it be great if there was a smartphone app that you could load missing points in to and it would tell you about them as you travel around. It would be like a guide to where to go mapping! Geocaching for postboxes anyone? Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
Robert Whittaker has an excellent site http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ monitoring OSM data on postboxes in the UK. Here you can see progress (even a league table of who's contributing). From the history graph you can see there's been an increase in activity since the project got going. Perhaps Robert might provide some data analysis about the effect of the project. Enter a postcode and you can find all the missing and incorrect postboxes nearby. Wow there are loads of postboxes still missing. Wouldn't it be great if there was a smartphone app that you could load missing points in to and it would tell you about them as you travel around. It would be like a guide to where to go mapping! Geocaching for postboxes anyone? Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update
It's now May and the project is a month old and with two months to go, it's time for an update. Robert Whittaker has an excellent site http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ monitoring OSM data on postboxes in the UK. Here you can see progress (even a league table of who's contributing). From the history graph you can see there's been an increase in activity since the project got going. Perhaps Robert might provide some data analysis about the effect of the project. Enter a postcode and you can find all the missing and incorrect postboxes nearby. I was amazed at just how many were missing in the areas I map regularly: a great incentive to revisit all kinds of places. In doing so I discovered one of those rarities: an EVIIIR royal cypher(OSM node 448635608). (For non-UK readers King Edward VIII was only on the throne for about 11 months in 1936 before abdicating so there are only about 130 postboxes bearing the royal cypher EVIIIR, these being the ones installed during those 11 months) How many of these are actually recorded in OSM? It would make a great treasure hunt for the rest of the project. From web research I think there are only 2 in Birmingham so my job's done. I've been unable to track down some of the indoor postboxes - two in particular are indicated in Sainsbury's supermarkets near me, but neither exists. This led me to wonder whether Sainsbury's had some kind of agreement with Royal Mail which didn't work out so they were removed. But you can't build a hypothesis on two pieces of data! Does anyone have any knowledge of this? Or replicate my findings? In the West Midlands we've had some fun trying to locate the Coventry ParcelForce depot which is NOT where Google thinks it is. It moved over two years ago and is now mapped in OSM http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.4583/-1.5259 . Thanks must go to our local sleuth: spiffymapper. Parcel Lockers http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom/Parcel_Lockers are poorly mapped - only 8 existed in OSM for the UK at the start of the project. Now there are 11 . It turns out that one of the operators, ByBox, has its national distribution centre in Coventry so time for spiffymapper to get his sleuthing shoes on again! Any other stories on what folk have been up to on this project are welcome. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
