Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-23 Thread Lester Caine
John Aldridge wrote: On 17/01/2014 18:18, John Aldridge wrote: here's a second draft proposal... OK, there doesn't seem to be enough interest/consensus to justify taking this any further, so I'm going to drop it :( I think that generally it will get adopted anyway as it does make sense. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-23 Thread Pierre Riteau
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, at 06:18 PM, John Aldridge wrote: In addition, it would be really nice if someone could start the process of getting the default renderer updated to display the two new tags amenity=post_depot, and amenity=parcel_depot does anyone know how to go about getting

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-17 Thread John Aldridge
On 17/01/2014 15:54, SK53 wrote: Tagging for the renderer is very important, and pushing things in so they get rendered has a serious deleterious affect on the data. I use OSM data as data: when someone degrades the meaning by overloading a tag, this can mean that all of the data become

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-17 Thread Steve Doerr
On 17/01/2014 18:18, John Aldridge wrote: 'Regular' post office branches (as currently run by Post Office Ltd) are the only things which should be tagged 'amentity=post_office'. The 'operator=*' tag is not required for these (and perhaps better omitted, since the name of the company keeps

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-16 Thread Pierre Riteau
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, at 05:59 PM, John Aldridge wrote: On 15/01/2014 17:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 15 January 2014 16:03, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: If I believed there was a snowflake in hell's chance of getting amenity=post_depot objects displayed on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-16 Thread John Aldridge
On 16/01/2014 09:34, Pierre Riteau wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, at 05:59 PM, John Aldridge wrote: On 15/01/2014 17:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 15 January 2014 16:03, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: If I believed there was a snowflake in hell's chance of getting

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-16 Thread Pierre Riteau
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, at 10:03 AM, John Aldridge wrote: On 16/01/2014 09:34, Pierre Riteau wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, at 05:59 PM, John Aldridge wrote: On 15/01/2014 17:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 15 January 2014 16:03, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: If I

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-16 Thread Steve Doerr
On 16/01/2014 10:03, John Aldridge wrote: Heh... that definition excludes 'regular' (Post Office Ltd) post offices, though! If you try to send a letter at one of those, they tell you to put it in the (Royal Mail) post box outside. Not if you ask for proof of posting. -- Steve

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 15 January 2014 16:03, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: On the one hand, there is still a fairly clear common understanding (in this country, at least) of what a Post Office is, and to use the tag amenity=post_office for anything else would perhaps seem a little perverse.

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-15 Thread John Aldridge
On 15/01/2014 17:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On 15 January 2014 16:03, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: If I believed there was a snowflake in hell's chance of getting amenity=post_depot objects displayed on the default map, I'd be more sympathetic, but as it is I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-14 Thread Gregory
I think amenity=post_office has a specific meaning in the UK and we shouldn't be mapping the Royal Mail depots as offices. There are always some confusing cases. I've gone past a Royal Mail depot and Post Office that are attached. I'm guessing most town centre depots have been closed down and

[Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread John Aldridge
Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? Presumably Parcelforce offices are distinguished by being tagged operator=Parcelforce? Apologies if I've missed something in the documentation or help -- I did

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Lester Caine
John Aldridge wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? Presumably Parcelforce offices are distinguished by being tagged operator=Parcelforce? Apologies if I've missed something in the documentation

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Andy Street
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:52:02 + John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? If there is a facility that allows the general public access to collect or send

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:30:42 + Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: Hello Andy, If there is a facility that allows the general public access to collect or send mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be appropriate. Royal Mail, Post Office and Parcel Force are three separate

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Borbus
On 12/01/14 12:30, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:52:02 + John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? If there is a facility that allows the

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Andy Street
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:48:36 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:30:42 + Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: If there is a facility that allows the general public access to collect or send mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be appropriate.

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Laurence Penney
Agreed. A few weeks ago I was collecting a parcel from the local delivery office. The lady on reception overheard me on the phone explaining to my mother that I was “in the post office”. When I hung up the lady, whom I’d noticed frowning, issued a stern and proud (though smiling) correction:

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Lester Caine
Borbus wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? If there is a facility that allows the general public access to collect or send mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be appropriate.

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:00:20 + Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: Hello Andy, Not only that but there are other companies in the UK post/parcel market. I'd absolutely agree that setting the correct operator= and/or brand= tags is important. Good point. FWIW I can't tax my car at my local

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 12 January 2014 11:52, John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or something else? I've generally used amenity=post_depot as a generic tag for sorting offices, delivery offices,

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 12 Jan 2014, at 13:03, Borbus bor...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/01/14 12:30, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:52:02 + John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: Is there a consensus on how to tag Royal Mail Parcel Force delivery offices? Are these amenity=post_office, or