Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-21 Thread Andrew
Another issue is that the designation key is sometimes misused by newcomers because of its prominence in some editors (trac issue 4251), which makes it harder for international applications to use it even when this happens outside Britain and could well strengthen the opinion that this is not

[Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-19 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi All, I hadn't thought about public footpaths along a road. It nicely demonstrates that for RoWs the highway tag really doesn't matter as it is the designation that gives the relevant information. In that case I would tend to agree with Andrew's methodology (which also makes things easier for

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-19 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Rob Nickerson wrote: I hadn't thought about public footpaths along a road. It nicely demonstrates that for RoWs the highway tag really doesn't matter as it is the designation that gives the relevant information. Well, in my case it's not even *along* the road... it's just

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think both have their advantages - I like the idea of a good signposted rights of way network, but I intensely dislike the Anglo-American attitude towards private property compared to say Scotland or Germany (naming two countries I've walked in where they seem to be more easy-going) On the

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Jones
If we treat path and footway as synonims, that would be ok. The only thing is that I (maybe incorrectly) treat footway as having an implied access permission (things like little paved walkways in towns) - a bit like highway=unclassified. On the other hand I treat highway=path as just being a

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-18 Thread Derick Rethans
Hi, On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Graham Jones wrote: On the other hand I treat highway=path as just being a statement of fact - 'there is a path here', so it needs some access tags adding to it. In my mind highway = footway is about the same as highway=path; foot=yes (or maybe

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Jones
Hi You are dead right - I was talking about paths as in narrow strips of ground for walking on. I would tag a public footpath as highway=whatever is appropriate: unclassified|residential|service|track|path, designation=public_footpath. Graham. On 18 February 2012 10:48, Derick Rethans

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Jones
On 17 February 2012 15:43, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.ukwrote: From my understanding, a minimum of ONE to TWO tags are needed: a) a highway tag. This represents the physical properties of the way, e.g. service, track, path (or footway - see below) b) if applicable, a

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick
On 17 February 2012 15:43, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: From my understanding, a minimum of ONE to TWO tags are needed: a) a highway tag. This represents the physical properties of the way, e.g. service, track, path (or

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick
On 17/02/12 15:16, Craig Wallace wrote: On 17/02/2012 14:26, Andrew Chadwick wrote: Re https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines Who's with me? Any against? I'd *love* to know up front if anyone has any evidence of big areas of highway=path + access tags used as a

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Jones
On 17 February 2012 17:35, Andrew Chadwick a.t.chadw...@gmail.com wrote: I'd still love to see some areas with big outbreaks of highway=path+designation-only, or highway=path+access-tags-only as representations of public paths. Must throw down some overpass-api quadrats around the country to

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Jones
I think I have worked out how to do the query using national park relations, and get the following results for a small sample: National Park | Footway (no des) | Footway (des) | path (no des) | path (des) | New Forest (way ID 129493402) | 153| 213 |98