Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-19 Thread Stuart Reynolds
On 19 Jan 2020, at 06:54, jc...@mail.com wrote: IoW bus stops seem to be branded which I think is rather unusual, so does the bus operator pay for updating them? That might be a clue to which is more recent. It varies from authority to authority (no reason to make it

[Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread jc...@mail.com
On 18 January 2020 at 1340, Cj Malone wrote: > Although now I have another issue, which data source should be preferred. Whichever is the most up-to-date in your area. NaPTAN data has a ModificationDateTime field which shows when it was last updated. The SV data doesn't have such info so you'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Neil Matthews
For an example of possible name mismatch, see the edit history for node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/485404488 which is shown at https://flic.kr/p/2igLCco For an example of stops being amalgamated see: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/435846038 when

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone
Hey Neil, I don't know which nodes you are talking about, but of the ones I'm looking at (where "name" != name from new NaPTAN data using "naptan:AtcoCode"). The vast majority haven't been updated in 10 years, since the NaPTAN import, or one edit where "naptan:verified" was changed to yes. I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Neil Matthews
No, please don't update mismatched bus stop names "blindly". I've surveyed a lot locally and have updated them to the newest values from paper timetables -- which have newer names than on metal signage. They also match the names that the local council have used when updating OSM. A lot of names

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Stuart Reynolds
If you take a look at the map for the area, you’ll see that Redwood Close is a close to the east, on the bend in Mountbatten Drive. The bus stop, as can be seen should you happen to look at a site where there is some street imagery (can’t imagine which one) is actually where NaPTAN has it -

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone
Thanks, I didn't really understand the NaPTAN site, but your link to download the data really helped. Although now I have another issue, which data source should be preferred. Take https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/550691387 for example, no name in OSM. It's napcode appears to be 23062,

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Guys I imported NaPTAN data for my local area (Chorley) some months ago. Took the data for Lancashire and filtered on Town:Chorley. Some of the stops were excluded because the data had not been correctly input by reason of no entry, misspelt, wrong town entered. Using the JOSM:Conflate

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Stuart Reynolds
Hi Cj, What you have got there is Southern Vectis’s link to a subset of the current NaPTAN data. Please note, though, that Southern Vectis are not responsible for this data - that is maintained by Isle of Wight Council. NaPTAN data is always available by local authority, or for the entire

[Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone via Talk-GB
Hello, I've recently found an open data set with more accurate bus stop names than OSM. Based on my limited survey of differences in OSM data and this data, theirs has been more accurate. Not really surprising, since it's there network, and most of the OSM data hasn't been updated since the