Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Dave F
On 02/10/2016 14:21, David Woolley wrote: So I would say that highway=path was equivalent to highway=path; foot=yes; bicycle=yes; horse=yes; motor_vehicle=no (spellings may be wrong). highway=footway would imply yes to just foot. Renderers and routers will, I think follow this policy. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread SK53
My personal rules on this have always been two independent sources of information OR a survey. This is easy for schools, and harder for pubs just using aerial imagery & data from FHRS and/or Edubase. Groups of shops can often be identified from aerial imagery, and correctly associated with FHRS

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi I have taken a look at my data for this area. I have a few pictures from when I walked through this "farmyard" that are from 2013. It was in my early days of mapping. Looking at this data on JOSM and my pictures I have tidied it up a bit. I think the satellite imagery has also

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Neil Matthews
> 1.We have a great tool developed some time ago by gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of it. Tool looks good, but is there any way to get a feature request: to identify items in the fhrs data that don't match to OSM in a

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Woolley wrote: > So I would say that highway=path was equivalent to highway=path; > foot=yes; bicycle=yes; horse=yes; motor_vehicle=no (spellings may > be wrong). highway=footway would imply yes to just foot. Renderers > and routers will, I think follow this policy. I can't speak for

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-02 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 2 October 2016 at 15:38, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Which tags would you like me to set up a tag-info script for? We can then > track these throughout the quarter. Off the top of my head, I'd have thought it would be good to know about number of instances of fhrs:id=*

[Talk-GB] Contact with Food Standards Agency

2016-10-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
I mentioned the quarterly project to Dr Sian Thomas, Head of Information Management at Food Standards Agency. Her reaction was, "how exciting! When is it and how can we help?" https://twitter.com/drsiant/status/778887195432194048 The FSA are keen advocates of open data and I imagine would be

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread John Aldridge
On 02-Oct-16 17:30, SK53 wrote: My personal rules on this have always been two independent sources of information OR a survey... FHRS data should contain full address details most of the time, so there should be no need to add anything from the website other than the url... By url do you

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/10/16 15:06, Andy Townsend wrote: No - in England and Wales an unspecified access tag surely means just "don't know" especially as if (as seems to be the case for one of the ways here) it's mapped from aerial imagery. So HGV's may be permitted on the typical footway, without an access

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi Although not the type of feedback we want, it is actually good to hear that people are using the map. I have walked through here and may have some pictures for reference so will see what I can do without a survey. It is a well used walking area so the owners are unlikely to dispute public

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
I have added the page to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project - Jez On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 17:13 Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi everyone > > It seems that the idea that got most traction from discussions is to use Food > Hygiene Rating

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread John Aldridge
On 02-Oct-16 10:32, Jez Nicholson wrote: I have added the page to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project I'm not quite clear what the concrete goals are here: is it just to add fhrs:id and addr:postcode tags to relevant establishments (and perhaps to map those

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm quoted Mr Angry: > "NONE of the paths indicated on the map that proceed north through > Upper Booth Farm are public footpaths" And indeed they're not tagged as such: they are tagged as the perennially useless highway=path, some of them with highway=permissive, while the Pennine Way

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Indeed - unless they have foot=yes, foot=permissive, access=permissive (etc) or designation=public_footpath, we are in no way telling them that they are public access. It is completely unreasonable for landowners to have a go at us just for showing a path on the map. Just because it's on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/10/16 10:56, John Aldridge wrote: Would one be breaking rules to copy that information to OSM? After all, the text on the web site will be, AIUI, copyright.) The question would be whether or not there is a database copyright involved. The actual facts that you are likely to want will

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Dan S
2016-10-02 11:54 GMT+01:00 David Woolley : > On 02/10/16 10:56, John Aldridge wrote: >> >> Would one be breaking rules to copy that information to OSM? After all, >> the text on the web site will be, AIUI, copyright.) > > > The question would be whether or not there is

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

2016-10-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/10/16 13:06, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Indeed - unless they have foot=yes, foot=permissive, access=permissive (etc) or designation=public_footpath, we are in no way telling them that they are public access. Whether or not there is a formal statement of this anywhere an unspecified access

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] October meeting on Wednesday

2016-10-02 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, Don't forget that we are meeting on Wednesday back in Birmingham for the winter. Who's joining me? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Next_meeting Best, *Rob* ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] October meeting on Wednesday

2016-10-02 Thread Ian Caldwell
I hope to be there. Ian On 2 Oct 2016 3:37 p.m., "Rob Nickerson" wrote: > Hi all, > > Don't forget that we are meeting on Wednesday back in Birmingham for the > winter. Who's joining me? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Next_meeting > > Best, >