Re: [Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

2018-11-03 Thread Andy Townsend

On 26/10/2018 10:56, Dave F wrote:
I'd be more concerned that on Facebook's mobile website (Android/Silk 
Browser) that image clicks through to Google Maps.


I suspect it depends (I did look into issues related to this in response 
to some DWG* tickets).  The maps you saw depending on where you were, 
where (both geographically and how far away) and what the thing that you 
were looking for was (e.g. roughly "a destination", "some other place", 
"something else"), and how you were accessing FB (e.g. on the phone was 
it app or browser, and I suspect it'd depend on OS too).


Any attribution issues you find are probably best handled by the LWG** 
though I'm not convinced that "clicking on a map from provider A and 
going to a map from provider B" necessarily is one.


Instagram of course is something else again, despite being owned by 
Facebook.  We (the DWG) have seen some misdirected reports come to us 
because Instagram's "report a problem" link (at least in the Android app 
a couple of weeks ago) pointed straight to OSM, and of course OSM has no 
influence on the search results that Instagram returns, which is usually 
what users are complaining about. However, I suspect it might result in 
businesses adding themselves to OSM that otherwise would not so I guess 
that "every cloud has a silver lining" :)


Best Regards

Andy

* https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group

** https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group



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Re: [Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

2018-10-26 Thread Dave F
I'd be more concerned that on Facebook's mobile website (Android/Silk 
Browser) that image clicks through to Google Maps.


Cheers
DaveF

On 26/10/2018 01:44, Steve Doerr wrote:
A user on the Facebook group 'UK Places Editors' has commented on the 
fact that some maps on Facebook pages in the vicinity of Putney Bridge 
(London) show the River Thames as 'Thanames'. See, for example, 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Putney-Bridge/103150243057869



A bit of browser debugging shows that it's accessing the URL 
https://external-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/static_map.php?v=1013_provider=2=324x160=15=51.46701240%2C-0.21317368=en_GB=2



Note the parameter _provider=2


Can anyone shed light on what tile service is being used here and what 
could be causing the Thanames name to appear? I can see that adjacent 
tiles rendered at different times, so that the label 'Thames' occurs 
in a different position, could cause something that looks like 
'Thanames' when they are joined together, but I can't produce any 
evidence of this.






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Re: [Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

2018-10-26 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 01:44, Steve Doerr  wrote:
> A user on the Facebook group 'UK Places Editors' has commented on the
> fact that some maps on Facebook pages in the vicinity of Putney Bridge
> (London) show the River Thames as 'Thanames'. See, for example,
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Putney-Bridge/103150243057869
>
> A bit of browser debugging shows that it's accessing the URL
> https://external-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/static_map.php?v=1013_provider=2=324x160=15=51.46701240%2C-0.21317368=en_GB=2

I'm pretty sure that this is not a data issue, but a rendering issue,
cause by adjacent tiles being updated at different times and trying to
show the label in slightly different positions. Look closely at the
text and you'll see a slight discontinuity along a horizontal line
through the "n". Rather than being "Thanames" I think we're seeing the
upper tile showing "Tha" and the first part of an "m", and the lower
tile showing part of an "h" and then "ames".

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

2018-10-26 Thread Andrew Black
I have seen similar but can't recall where or which tile provider.  To
state obvious, it only occurs at certain zoom levels.
Once i realised it was probably transient I lost interest.


On Fri, 26 Oct 2018, 01:44 Steve Doerr,  wrote:

> A user on the Facebook group 'UK Places Editors' has commented on the
> fact that some maps on Facebook pages in the vicinity of Putney Bridge
> (London) show the River Thames as 'Thanames'. See, for example,
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Putney-Bridge/103150243057869
>
>
> A bit of browser debugging shows that it's accessing the URL
>
> https://external-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/static_map.php?v=1013_provider=2=324x160=15=51.46701240%2C-0.21317368=en_GB=2
>
>
> Note the parameter _provider=2
>
>
> Can anyone shed light on what tile service is being used here and what
> could be causing the Thanames name to appear? I can see that adjacent
> tiles rendered at different times, so that the label 'Thames' occurs in
> a different position, could cause something that looks like 'Thanames'
> when they are joined together, but I can't produce any evidence of this.
>
>
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[Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

2018-10-25 Thread Steve Doerr
A user on the Facebook group 'UK Places Editors' has commented on the 
fact that some maps on Facebook pages in the vicinity of Putney Bridge 
(London) show the River Thames as 'Thanames'. See, for example, 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Putney-Bridge/103150243057869



A bit of browser debugging shows that it's accessing the URL 
https://external-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/static_map.php?v=1013_provider=2=324x160=15=51.46701240%2C-0.21317368=en_GB=2



Note the parameter _provider=2


Can anyone shed light on what tile service is being used here and what 
could be causing the Thanames name to appear? I can see that adjacent 
tiles rendered at different times, so that the label 'Thames' occurs in 
a different position, could cause something that looks like 'Thanames' 
when they are joined together, but I can't produce any evidence of this.



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