Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Warin]

amenity=notice_board???


On 08/05/19 22:22, Philip Barnes wrote:

Also building=phonebox which I use.

The most common usage is defibrillators and bookshares.

Phil (trigpoint)

On Wednesday, 8 May 2019, Martin Wynne wrote:

On 08/05/2019 12:46, Andy Townsend wrote:


It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind of tourist information
feature?

Thanks Andy. I think it is intended for locals rather than tourists.
It's in a village on a country lane, not a recognised tourist destination.

On closer examination of my original photo, I think it is advertising a
themed "pub night" at the local village hall (which is nearby), rather
than an actual pub. There is a notice inside with a date and admission
charges.

I found this, but it's rather more than a notice board:

  
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/62741/best-tag-for-a-community-notice-board


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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

if it's used for advertising look up that in the wiki.

For the actual structure:
disused:amenity=telephone
covered=booth
booth=K6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_telephone_box

On 08/05/2019 12:27, Martin Wynne wrote:
How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the 
attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, 
or by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run pub.


 http://85a.uk/pub_kiosk_600x860.jpg

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Philip Barnes]

Also building=phonebox which I use.

The most common usage is defibrillators and bookshares.

Phil (trigpoint)

On Wednesday, 8 May 2019, Martin Wynne wrote:
> On 08/05/2019 12:46, Andy Townsend wrote:
> 
> > It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind of tourist information 
> > feature?
> 
> Thanks Andy. I think it is intended for locals rather than tourists. 
> It's in a village on a country lane, not a recognised tourist destination.
> 
> On closer examination of my original photo, I think it is advertising a 
> themed "pub night" at the local village hall (which is nearby), rather 
> than an actual pub. There is a notice inside with a date and admission 
> charges.
> 
> I found this, but it's rather more than a notice board:
> 
>  
> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/62741/best-tag-for-a-community-notice-board
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Martin.
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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Martin Wynne]

On 08/05/2019 12:46, Andy Townsend wrote:

It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind of tourist information 
feature?


Thanks Andy. I think it is intended for locals rather than tourists. 
It's in a village on a country lane, not a recognised tourist destination.


On closer examination of my original photo, I think it is advertising a 
themed "pub night" at the local village hall (which is nearby), rather 
than an actual pub. There is a notice inside with a date and admission 
charges.


I found this, but it's rather more than a notice board:


https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/62741/best-tag-for-a-community-notice-board

cheers,

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Andy Townsend]

On 08/05/2019 12:27, Martin Wynne wrote:
How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the 
attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, 
or by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run pub.



It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind of tourist information 
feature?  Here's a list of former phone boxes with tourism tags: 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/IO1 .


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[Talk-GB] How to tag this?

[Martin Wynne]

How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the 
attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, or 
by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run  pub.


 http://85a.uk/pub_kiosk_600x860.jpg

thanks,

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Paul Berry]

Now that I know the name for them you'll soon see that usage spread out
across the rest of West Yorkshire :)

This is one of them, hiding in Leeds:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6412833214

Regards,
*Paul*

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 18:10, Mark Goodge  wrote:

>
>
> On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:
> >>
> >> On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details
> >>>
> >> 4000 of those:
> >>
> >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values
> >>
> >> However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!)
> >> is?
> >
> > You can only go through it if you have a beard!
> Serious answer... generating a map of them via the Overpass Turbo link
> shows that all the instances of them are in an area around Keighley.
> And, looking at them on Google street view, they appear to be squeeze
> stiles. For example:
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/v8P8SrBYHu8BWMzZA
> https://goo.gl/maps/1h5zqHLpQDu4jUnb6
>
> So I'd hazard a guess that it's a local name for them in that neck of
> the woods.
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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Andy Townsend]

On 27/04/2019 18:10, Martin Wynne wrote:
barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.


I'd use a "step_count" tag for how many steps there are ("steps" has 
also been used, often by me, but is probably less appropriate).  See:


https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/stile#combinations

I'd be more than happy to add a different sorts of stile icons to 
map.atownsend.org.uk .  It'd just need 3 new icons for each new style of 
stile at 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/openstreetmap-carto-AJT/tree/master/symbols 
and some way of telling them apart at 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L3070 
.  All contributions gratefully received!


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Sorry, but, to me at least, a "chicane" involves a (double) bend.
See: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chicane
" NOUN1.  A sharp double bend created to form an obstacle on a motor-racing 
track or a road."
and these seem to involve a narrow "sqeeze", not a double bend.
 Peter 
On Saturday, 27 April 2019, 18:12:54 BST, Martin Wynne  
wrote:  
 
 barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.

barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 18:10 +0100, Martin Wynne wrote:
> barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
> symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.
> 
> barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

barrier=chicane will already be in use, probably as a type of cycle
barrier.

Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Martin Wynne]

barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile 
symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any.


barrier=chicane would perhaps be more descriptive?

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Peter Neale via Talk-GB]

Running Overpass Turbo, it seems that they are concentrated in a small area, so 
probably "hipster" is a local term.
Looking at a well-known global Aerial Imagery source, with links to Street 
level photography, shows at least 2 of them (adjacent to roads) to be narrow 
gaps in stone walls, so a version of "squeeze". 
Regards,
 Peter 
On Saturday, 27 April 2019, 17:54:03 BST, Andy Townsend  
wrote:  
 
 
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details
>
4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?

Best Regards,

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote:



On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:


On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) 
is?


You can only go through it if you have a beard!
Serious answer... generating a map of them via the Overpass Turbo link 
shows that all the instances of them are in an area around Keighley. 
And, looking at them on Google street view, they appear to be squeeze 
stiles. For example:


https://goo.gl/maps/v8P8SrBYHu8BWMzZA
https://goo.gl/maps/1h5zqHLpQDu4jUnb6

So I'd hazard a guess that it's a local name for them in that neck of 
the woods.


Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 17:52, Andy Townsend wrote:


On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?


You can only go through it if you have a beard!

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Andy Townsend]

On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details


4000 of those:

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values

However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is?

Best Regards,

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mark Goodge]

On 27/04/2019 17:46, Chris Hill wrote:

I've always known them as squeeze stiles.


Indeed. The term "stile" doesn't have to imply steps, although that is 
the most common form.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 17:18 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote:
> ced close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
> leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through

That is a squeeze stile, stile=squeezer.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details

HTH Phil (trigpoint)


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Mike Baggaley]

Hi Mike,

I call them fat man's agony and consider them to be a type of stile.

See 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_fat_man%27s_agony_-_geograph.org.uk_-_945142.jpg

Mike B.

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What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through but 
not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a barrier= tag for 
them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale where there are ton 
of them. They are typically not raised, so not a stile, and typically no 
gate, just a gap.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Roger Calvert]

I think they are generally called a 'squeeze stile'. JOSM suggests 
barrier=stile;stile=squeezer


Roger

On 27/04/2019 17:18, Michael Collinson wrote:
What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) 
to leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze 
through but not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a 
barrier= tag for them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale 
where there are ton of them. They are typically not raised, so not a 
stile, and typically no gate, just a gap.


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Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Chris Hill]

I've always known them as squeeze stiles.

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On 27/04/2019 17:18, Michael Collinson wrote:
What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) 
to leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze 
through but not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a 
barrier= tag for them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale 
where there are ton of them. They are typically not raised, so not a 
stile, and typically no gate, just a gap.


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[Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

[Michael Collinson]

What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two 
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to 
leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through but 
not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a barrier= tag for 
them?  Just got back from Middlesmoor in Nidderdale where there are ton 
of them. They are typically not raised, so not a stile, and typically no 
gate, just a gap.


Mike


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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag

[Artur R. Czechowski]

Hi Jerry,
Thanks for your advice. I think I will left items 1 and 3 as they are till
a better way to tag such situation will be devised. For item 2 I will just
visit them and ask what kind of care and for whom they are providing here.

Best regards
Artur

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 2:32 PM, SK53  wrote:

> I cant really help with the second two (would be really useful to know
> about shops which sell out!), but estate agents which have side lines of
> business are quite common. They often may have a mortgage broking arm, an
> insurance broker or be agent for a building society, and offer surveying
> services. These are pretty much all ancillary to their main business
> because they represent products they can sell to prospective house
> owners/tenants/sellers etc. I therefore think a note is fine. Potentially
> you could use insurance[_broker]=yes or similar tags for things which are
> ancillary to the main business (as in food=yes on a drinking establishment
> or bar=yes for a hotel).
>
> Jerry
>
> On 19 May 2018 at 13:50, Artur R. Czechowski  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Sorry for previous empty mail.
>>
>> Could you, please, provide me the advice how to properly tag following
>> objects I have surveyed recently?
>>
>> 1. There is an estate agent and insurance broker. I have currently marked
>> it as estate agent. Is there a better way to tag it?
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626681212
>> 2. What social_facility I should choose for Total Home Care?
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680663
>> 3. Is there a better way to tag opening hours for Saturdays and Sundays
>> for this bakery? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680664
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag

[SK53]

I cant really help with the second two (would be really useful to know
about shops which sell out!), but estate agents which have side lines of
business are quite common. They often may have a mortgage broking arm, an
insurance broker or be agent for a building society, and offer surveying
services. These are pretty much all ancillary to their main business
because they represent products they can sell to prospective house
owners/tenants/sellers etc. I therefore think a note is fine. Potentially
you could use insurance[_broker]=yes or similar tags for things which are
ancillary to the main business (as in food=yes on a drinking establishment
or bar=yes for a hotel).

Jerry

On 19 May 2018 at 13:50, Artur R. Czechowski  wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry for previous empty mail.
>
> Could you, please, provide me the advice how to properly tag following
> objects I have surveyed recently?
>
> 1. There is an estate agent and insurance broker. I have currently marked
> it as estate agent. Is there a better way to tag it?
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626681212
> 2. What social_facility I should choose for Total Home Care?
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680663
> 3. Is there a better way to tag opening hours for Saturdays and Sundays
> for this bakery? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680664
>
> Best regards
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[Talk-GB] How to tag

[Artur R. Czechowski]

Hi,
Sorry for previous empty mail.

Could you, please, provide me the advice how to properly tag following
objects I have surveyed recently?

1. There is an estate agent and insurance broker. I have currently marked
it as estate agent. Is there a better way to tag it?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626681212
2. What social_facility I should choose for Total Home Care?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680663
3. Is there a better way to tag opening hours for Saturdays and Sundays for
this bakery? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680664

Best regards
Artur
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[Talk-GB] How to tag a game shop

[Filip Chirita Rares Cristian]

Hi guys,

How do you best tag a place where people meet to play boardgames? I know we
have leisure = adult_gaming_centre and amenity = casino, but there's no tag
that I could find that's for a place like Games Workshop where people meet
to play non-digital games which don't involve gambling.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts

[David Groom]

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk

To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 3:48 PM
Subject: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts




I've just tagged a row of 18 marine hazard lights, on tall posts, as
highway=street_lamp

For example:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1494256519

Clearly that's not correct; what tag would folk suggest?

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depending on exactly what the light characteristsics are

David


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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts

[Malcolm Herring]

These are warning beacons to mark the line of reefs. The appropriate 
OpenSeaMap tagging would be:


seamark:type=beacon_special_purpose
seamark:beacon_special_purpose:category=artificial_reef
seamark:special_purpose_beacon:shape=pile
seamark:light:colour=whatever the colour of the light is
seamark:light:character=whatever the flashing pattern is
seamark:topmark:shape=if it has a topmark, the shape
seamark:topmark:colour=if it has a topmark, the colour

NB: these tags will only be rendered on OpenSeaMap (an overlay to the 
StreetMap).


man_made=beacon would be appropriate for the StreetMap, although I don't 
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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts

[Andy Mabbett]

On 7 November 2011 18:28, Malcolm Herring
malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 These are warning beacons to mark the line of reefs. The appropriate
 OpenSeaMap tagging would be:

 seamark:type=beacon_special_purpose
 seamark:beacon_special_purpose:category=artificial_reef
 seamark:special_purpose_beacon:shape=pile
 seamark:light:colour=whatever the colour of the light is
 seamark:light:character=whatever the flashing pattern is
 seamark:topmark:shape=if it has a topmark, the shape
 seamark:topmark:colour=if it has a topmark, the colour

 NB: these tags will only be rendered on OpenSeaMap (an overlay to the
 StreetMap).

 man_made=beacon would be appropriate for the StreetMap, although I don't
 know whether this tag is rendered.

Thank you. I've used some of those, but I only saw them during
daytime, so can't comment on the colour or pattern of the lights.

I'd tagged what you all reefs as islands; I've now added reef as well.

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

[Michael Collinson]

On 24/10/2011 14:43, John Sturdy wrote:

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Andy Mabbetta...@pigsonthewing.org.uk  wrote:
   

I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example:

   
http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.511667lon=-1.866628zoom=18layers=M

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1478159796

with Tag:historic=memorial.

I included the text on each memorial, tagged text. Would that be
better tagged inscription, or with some other tag?
 

I've used commemoration on a couple of memorial benches in my
village, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1419167468, but
now you mention it, inscription sounds more generic, as there might
be inscribed public objects that aren't commemorative.
   
I've certainly used inscription when mapping Swedish rune stones ... 
so it certainly has flexibility!


Mike

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[Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

[Andy Mabbett]

I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example:

   
http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.511667lon=-1.866628zoom=18layers=M

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1478159796

with Tag:historic=memorial.

I included the text on each memorial, tagged text. Would that be
better tagged inscription, or with some other tag?

How should I tag the fact that a memorial was erected by the Police
Memorial Trust?

The documentation of Tag:historic=memorial

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmemorial

is silent on these matters.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

[John Sturdy]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example:

   
 http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.511667lon=-1.866628zoom=18layers=M

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1478159796

 with Tag:historic=memorial.

 I included the text on each memorial, tagged text. Would that be
 better tagged inscription, or with some other tag?

I've used commemoration on a couple of memorial benches in my
village, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1419167468, but
now you mention it, inscription sounds more generic, as there might
be inscribed public objects that aren't commemorative.

__John

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

[Brian Prangle]

How should I tag the fact that a memorial was erected by the Police
Memorial Trust?
How about operator=Police Memorial Trust

Regards

Brian



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[Talk-GB] How to tag floating duck islands?

[Mike Collinson]

Has anyone mapped this one yet?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web/mps-duck-island-folly-exposed-on-google-earth/2009/05/22/1242498910263.html


Mike

Caveat: My lawyer only allowed me to post this if I point out that as the data 
is from Google Earth, we cannot use it in OpenStreetMap.



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