Re: [talk-ph] Navteq/Nokia finally shows their mapping data for the Philippines

2010-02-07 Thread Ray
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. schrieb: I think the best way to detect theft of data is an old and proven one, making certain (privately documented) mistakes on purpose, so you can check if the map in question includes it. As most of you well know, it's not possible to copyright reality, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Where can we purchase sat photography for usage in openstreetmap?

2010-02-07 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 21:24, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I just found out that we cannot use any of the data from eurimage.com in osm. We want to raise funds to buy high res photos of Kosovo for tracing. Does anyone have any experience with

Re: [OSM-talk] Where can we purchase sat photography for usage in openstreetmap?

2010-02-07 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Thanks, that looks good. If they have some type of compatible license, we can be in business. I think it is a good proposition to raise some money in kosovo, the benefits for the people of having maps are great. We just need a good price! On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Simone Cortesi

Re: [OSM-talk] Where can we purchase sat photography for usage in openstreetmap?

2010-02-07 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:52, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks, that looks good. If they have some type of compatible license, we can be in business. I think it is a good proposition to raise some money in kosovo, the benefits for the people of

Re: [OSM-talk] Where can we purchase sat photography for usage in openstreetmap?

2010-02-07 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Well, we need 10,908 km2 for Kosovo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo so 163,620 € But we dont need highres of all the farmland. I guess we would just start with the major cities. Prishtina is854 km2 according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristina So that would be 12675 Euros for the

[OSM-talk] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
The difference between pub and nightclub is, that latter have got a dancefloor. Thus it is inscrutable to me, why pubs are shown in Mapnik but nightclubs are not. Thus: Could the nightclubs be shown in Mapnik as well? ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 February 2010 21:26, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The difference between pub and nightclub is, that latter have got a dancefloor. Thus it is inscrutable to me, why pubs are shown in Mapnik but nightclubs are not. Thus: Could the nightclubs be shown in Mapnik as well? If you want

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2010 21:26, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The difference between pub and nightclub is, that latter have got a dancefloor. Thus it is inscrutable to me, why pubs are shown in Mapnik but nightclubs are not. Thus: Could the nightclubs be

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 February 2010 22:05, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Thanks for your answer, John. I found this site already before. The problem is, that one needs insider knowledges, to send a ticket. I do not have any clue, what to choose under type and ticket properties. What is i.e. task, xapi,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik shows pubs but no nightclubs

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2010 22:05, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Thanks for your answer, John. I found this site already before. The problem is, that one needs insider knowledges, to send a ticket. I do not have any clue, what to choose under type and

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up a paragraph that prohibits the use of

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 01:12, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: I do understand, that OSM-people will not be responsible for malicious use, possibly death of innocent humans caused by them or their work. But this could be caused also by you, if you buy something and thus support a person, who will

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Rollback request - 381206

2010-02-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Chris Hunter wrote: User NE2 erroniously merged most of the US Interstate relations back into single relations. About 12 hours of my work was destroyed. Please roll back changeset 381206 if possible. I erroneously did what you requested and found that I rolled back a 12 month old

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Rollback request - 381206

2010-02-07 Thread Chris Hunter
Aargh - I fat-fingered it instead of copypasting - the are I worked last night was fixed on this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3812016http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3812016 I just discovered the mass-update when I logged in about 20 minutes ago and I've

[OSM-talk] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Chris Hunter
According to the WIKI and some discussions back in April ( http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-April/000976.html) and again in September ( http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-September/001597.html), the US Interstate system was going to be moved into a new

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:42 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: i concur with the notion of splitting at state lines. i also think that the longer US routes need to be handled in a similar manner. Yeah, that's sane. If for no other reason than the fact that the mile markers reset at state lines. I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Ben Laenen
Chris Hunter wrote: According to the WIKI and some discussions back in April ( http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-April/000976.html) and again in September ( http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-September/001597.html ), the US Interstate system was going

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying InterstateRelations

2010-02-07 Thread Mike N.
There is no 1000-member hard-cap on relationship. However, it becomes awkward to edit huge relationships spanning many states since the likelihood for conflicting changesets increases. The Wiki does contain a modification based on the September discussion, but it's very difficult to

[OSM-talk] Way out west

2010-02-07 Thread Steve Chilton
Could someone who knows the area have a look at this problem in Mass, USA (Just N of Worcester). http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=-71.90686lat=42.34427zoom=14 The wet and dry bits seem to be inverted. Kendall and Pine Hill reservoirs are dry (white), whilst the water

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Chris Hunter chunter...@gmail.com wrote: Last night, user NE2 cleaned up the interstate system by merging all of the states with 2 relations per interstate back into 1 relation with direction-based roles.  I've already requested a roll-back on the area I was

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 12:23, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs. From what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the interstate/highway number (e.g. 90 or 80) and not I 90 (MN). I use the ref on the relation when building maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-07 Thread SteveC
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Dave F. wrote: I realize most people have fallen asleep on this thread, but did anyone get a detailed report on why OSM was rejected? It's like Encyclopedia Britannica looking to move to Wikipedia in 2004 or something, printing out a lot of books and getting

Re: [OSM-talk] Playing tagging democracy: standard building process and tag unifying towards it

2010-02-07 Thread SteveC
On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Dave F. wrote: This won't happen if none of the map creators are taking the data because they think it's crap. Saying 'none' is exceptional hyperbole. Yours c. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Way out west

2010-02-07 Thread Greg Troxel
I have been noticing this. My theory, not yet confirmed by actually looking at the data, is that this is due to tags on polygons from the massgis open space or similar import. I think there are parcels that have tags like landuse=reservoir, and this means that those parcels are used for

Re: [OSM-talk] Way out west

2010-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
It would certainly make sense to me to have the land cover and the land use as separate tags, not dependent upon each other. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Way out west From :mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com Date :Sun Feb 07 21:27:26 America/Chicago 2010 I have been noticing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Chris Hunter
I don't think NE2 is on any of these mailing lists. Can someone put a temporary ban on their account? They've been editing all day. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 2/7/10 9:23 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: What's more annoying is that he is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Chris Hunter
Oh, and yes I did contact them via both the OSM Messaging system and the WIKI's messaging system. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Chris Hunter chunter...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think NE2 is on any of these mailing lists. Can someone put a temporary ban on their account? They've been

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 15:43 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 7 February 2010 15:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: They have 4c coles voucher plus 4c instore, however last time I travelled past they didnt pass on the ethanol rebate. You can spot those who pass on the ethanol rebate,

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread Richard Colless
But that probably won't show up when you do a waypoint search - it certainly won't on my Etrex. So the best coding is using "name=Coles Express" or "name=Woolworths discount" (or whatever the Woolies ones are called). That show up as soon as you do a search for Fuel services. Richard Steve

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 23:06 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: But that probably won't show up when you do a waypoint search - it certainly won't on my Etrex. So the best coding is using name=Coles Express or name=Woolworths discount (or whatever the Woolies ones are called). That show up as soon

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 13:16, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Thats fine if youre looking for a place that accepts woolworths cards, but what about if you have a caltex or shell card and want to search for someone who'll take that. If you want a POI search, you simply extract the various

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 13:21 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 8 February 2010 13:16, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Thats fine if youre looking for a place that accepts woolworths cards, but what about if you have a caltex or shell card and want to search for someone who'll take that.

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 14:09, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Is this the start of a new cliche? 'Tagging for the navigator' Seems that was what was being suggested, or more to the point, don't tag incorrectly for the navigator, eg using the name field incorrectly to indicate discounts

[Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread André Riedel
Am 6. Februar 2010 13:01 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: Am 06.02.2010 12:42, schrieb Harald Schwarz: Ich finde hier kann man mal Adressdaten vereinheitlichen und sollte in Zukunft dafür allgemein addr:* einsetzen. Und für die Zukunft wäre das addr:* Schema viel besser. Die

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Sven Anders wrote: wenn du mein neues Polygon eingespielt hast, sollte das jetzt nicht mehr so sein, hab das aber noch nicht validiert. Hab ich schon vor ner Woche oder so! Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte line-Relationen

2010-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Florian Gross schrieb: Wolfgang Wienke glaubte zu wissen: Hallo, ich hatte nach dem OXOMOA-System Busrouten gemapt und finde jetzt plötzlich die line-Relationen nicht mehr. Sie sind auch in den Routenrelationen nicht mehr als Elternrelationen enthalten. Muss die jemand gelöscht

Re: [Talk-de] WMS unter MAC OSX 10.6

2010-02-07 Thread Werner Beckmann
Hi, bei mir half ja Folgendes: 1) QT laden und installieren (s. Mail thread) 2) webkit-image binary laden http://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/macosx/ und ablegen unter /usr/bin/webkit-image (wenn ihr nicht wisst, wie das geht: Terminal aufmachen, dann vom Ort, sagen wir

Re: [Talk-de] Relation wird nicht angezeigt

2010-02-07 Thread LongRed
Wenn IE Standard-Einstellung für die Sicherheit benutzt werden, geht es in der Tat nicht. Lösung: Die Domain www.openstreetmap.org zu den Trusted Sites hinzufügen. Warum das Problem aber in erster Instanz auftritt kann ich auch nicht sagen. Gruß R.L. - Original Message - From: Jochen

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte line-Relationen

2010-02-07 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Wolfgang Wienke schrieb am 07.02.2010 10:40: Danke, ich habe sie jetzt dort gefunden. Anscheinend arbeite JOSM plötzlich anders. Elternrelationen werden in der Child-Relation nicht mehr automatisch angezeigt und mit herunter geladen. Erst wenn man im Relationseditor unter Eltern-Relation neu

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Harald Schwarz
Hallo zusammen, danke für eure Hinweise. Ich werde nochmal darüber nachdenken. Der Grund für meine Nutzung von addr:phone, addr:fax, addr:email liegt in dem was ich unter einer Adresse verstehe: Alles womit ich eine Person oder eine Institution erreichen, bzw. Kontakt aufnehmen kann. Wenn unter

Re: [Talk-de] Relation wird nicht angezeigt

2010-02-07 Thread Tirkon
LongRed long...@myrealbox.com wrote: Wenn IE Standard-Einstellung für die Sicherheit benutzt werden, geht es in der Tat nicht. Lösung: Die Domain www.openstreetmap.org zu den Trusted Sites hinzufügen. Wenn eine stinknormale Anzeige der Karten schon nicht funktioniert, wäre es dann im Sinne von

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
Der Grund für meine Nutzung von addr:phone, addr:fax, addr:email liegt in dem was ich unter einer Adresse verstehe: Alles womit ich eine Person oder eine Institution erreichen, bzw. Kontakt aufnehmen kann. Wir sammeln Geodaten. Adressen sind eigentlich fest an Grundstücke oder Gebäudeteile

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte line-Relationen

2010-02-07 Thread André Riedel
Am 7. Februar 2010 11:51 schrieb Torsten Leistikow de_m...@gmx.de: Wolfgang Wienke schrieb am 07.02.2010 10:40: Danke, ich habe sie jetzt dort gefunden. Anscheinend arbeite JOSM plötzlich anders. Elternrelationen werden in der Child-Relation nicht mehr automatisch angezeigt und mit herunter

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Johannes Huesing
Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de [Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 02:02:46PM CET]: [...] Und weil es Kontakte sind, hat man es glaube auch mal mit dem Namensraum contact:* probiert. Das hat sich allerdings auch nicht weiter verbreitet. Andere Projekte machen ebenso Extrawürste mit Namensräumen.

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread NopMap
Markus-2 wrote: http://openpistemap.org/?lat=49.64079lon=11.39781zoom=17layers=B000 Da gibts weder Skilift noch Loipe. Das ist der Spieser Skilift - den gibt's definitiv. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Wiki-Skipisten-tp4526002p4529653.html Sent from the Germany

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de [Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 02:02:46PM CET]: [...] Und weil es Kontakte sind, hat man es glaube auch mal mit dem Namensraum contact:* probiert. Das hat sich allerdings auch nicht weiter verbreitet. Andere Projekte machen ebenso Extrawürste mit Namensräumen.

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Februar 2010 14:02 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: Unsere Möglichkeiten geben es aber schlicht nicht her ein Grundstück zu definieren, dem als Member die Gebäude und darunter wiederum die einzelnen Nutzer als Gruppen anzulegen. ach so? Unsere Möglichkeiten geben das nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread Andreas Klein
Am 06.02.2010 18:00, schrieb Max Andre: Hi! Es gibt in der Wiki schon seit ewigen Zeiten ein proposal für das Tagging von Skipisten [1]. Mit dem Proposal lässt sich definitiv sehr gut arbeiten und taggen. Ich nutze es seit über einem Jahr in verschiedenen Skigebieten. Eine Erweiterung (die

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
ach so? Unsere Möglichkeiten geben das nicht her? Kann man mit Relationen doch problemlos machen. Ihr und eure Relationen... kompliziert, von vielen gemieden und alles andere als die ultimative Lösung für alles. Ja ich kann eine Site für ein Grunstück anlegen, und ja, ich kann dann eine

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread Markus
Hi Klaus, http://openpistemap.org/?lat=49.64079lon=11.39781zoom=17layers=B000 Da gibts weder Skilift noch Loipe. Das ist der Spieser Skilift - den gibt's definitiv. :-) In der Wirklichkeit und in der DB, aber nicht in der Karte. Nicht mal in der Piste--Map... Auch Loipen erscheinen nicht

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Februar 2010 17:10 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: ach so? Unsere Möglichkeiten geben das nicht her? Kann man mit Relationen doch problemlos machen. Ihr und eure Relationen... kompliziert, von vielen gemieden und alles andere als die ultimative Lösung für alles. dann

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
Du übertreibst m.E. maßlos: was soll an der Relation kompliziert sein? Die Zugehörigkeit wird an jedem Objekt angezeigt. Für dich ist das nicht kompliziert. Aber wie oft laufen Leute auf für die das nicht so ist, die Relationen meiden oder unbewusst kaputt machen? Aktuell haben wir doch

Re: [Talk-de] Neues von der Reit- und Wanderkarte

2010-02-07 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-de-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-de- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of NopMap Sent: venerdì 5 febbraio 2010 0.42 To: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-de] Neues von der Reit- und Wanderkarte Ja. Die Karte besteht aus 3 Layers, die

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread malenki
Markus schrieb: Überhaupt scheint /der OSMer/ wenig Wintersport zu betreiben: die mir bekannten Skiorte sind recht dürftig kartografiert. Weder Bars noch Hotels ;-) Das liegt sicher daran, dass man beim Skifahren schlecht mappen kann. Zum einen hat man die Hände voller Skistöcke, zum anderen

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread Max Andre
Am 07.02.2010 19:37, schrieb malenki: Markus schrieb: Überhaupt scheint /der OSMer/ wenig Wintersport zu betreiben: die mir bekannten Skiorte sind recht dürftig kartografiert. Weder Bars noch Hotels ;-) Das liegt sicher daran, dass man beim Skifahren schlecht mappen kann. Zum

Re: [Talk-de] WMS unter MAC OSX 10.6

2010-02-07 Thread UMAX974
Ich ergänz mal deine Mail von Werner, um ein paar Erfahrungen, die ich in der letzten Zeit gemacht habe; Ich habe: 1) QT SDK installiert http://qt.nokia.com/downloads/sdk-mac-os-cpp 2) XCode von meiner SystemCD installiert 3) webkit-image binary geladen (Danke an Stefano!!) Den

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread malenki
Max Andre schrieb: Am 07.02.2010 19:37, schrieb malenki: Das liegt sicher daran, dass man beim Skifahren schlecht mappen kann. Zum einen hat man die Hände voller Skistöcke, zum anderen müsste man, um POIs zu setzen, dauernd anhalten (und evtl auch die Handschuhe ausziehen). Ne, dass

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki: Skipisten

2010-02-07 Thread Max Andre
Am 07.02.2010 21:09, schrieb malenki: Max Andre schrieb: Am 07.02.2010 19:37, schrieb malenki: Das liegt sicher daran, dass man beim Skifahren schlecht mappen kann. Zum einen hat man die Hände voller Skistöcke, zum anderen müsste man, um POIs zu setzen, dauernd anhalten (und

[Talk-de] JOSM SVN-Script

2010-02-07 Thread Max Andre
Hallo, da ich keine Lust mehr hatte mir die neueste JOSM Version händisch auszuchecken und zu kompilieren habe ich mir ein Script für diesen Zweck gebaut. Das Script prüft erst ob die SVN-Version neuer ist als die Lokale. Wenn nicht wird die lokale Version gestartet. Wenn ja wird die aktuelle

[Talk-de] OpenStreetMap // OpenCritics

2010-02-07 Thread g.v.zimmerm...@evelope.de
Hallo liebe OpenStreetMap-er, ich fand' die OpenStreetMap-Idee schon immer faszinierend - und nachdem ich unlängst in Hamburg auf dem Stammtisch war, hatte ich eine Idee, wie man eventuell ein Projekt von uns mit OpenStreetMap verknüpfen könnte. Natürlich habe ich keine Ahnung, inwiefern bei

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarenders eingebaute pattern anpassen

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
In der osmarender.xml für Zoomstufe 17 sind Relationen vorgesehen, allerdings muß man am Anfang der Datei showRelationRoute=yes setzen, und der Relationsblock !-- Relation/Routes SDW -- am Ende der Regeln ist auskommentiert. Wenn man das umgeht, kann man zumindest die Wegstücke anders

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread AssetBurned
moin On 07.02.2010, at 12:06, Harald Schwarz wrote: Hallo zusammen, danke für eure Hinweise. Ich werde nochmal darüber nachdenken. Der Grund für meine Nutzung von addr:phone, addr:fax, addr:email liegt in dem was ich unter einer Adresse verstehe: Alles womit ich eine Person oder eine

Re: [Talk-de] Neues von der Reit- und Wanderkarte

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Februar 2010 19:14 schrieb Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it: Manchmal ist nun die Karte im Hochgebirge zu dunkel, z.B.: http://topo.geofabrik.de/?lon=9.2495lat=45.8508zoom=15 ja, die ist m.E. generell zu dunkel. Insgesamt einfach 20-40% dessen, wie es jetzt ist, und das wäre noch

Re: [Talk-de] Problem mit Kartenupload auf Garmin eTrex HCx

2010-02-07 Thread Jens Müller
Am 07/06/08 00:03, schrieb Florian Arnold: Hallo, Christoph Eckert schrieb am 05.07.2008 22:15: Ja. Meistens habe ich im Ordner Garmin zuerst die (funktionierende) alte gmapsupp.img gelöscht und dann die neue reinkopiert. hat bei mir immer perfekt funktioniert. Nehmen wir mal an

Re: [Talk-de] Problem mit Kartenupload auf Garmin eTrex HCx

2010-02-07 Thread Jens Müller
Am 07/07/08 00:28, schrieb Florian Arnold: - Warum tritt das Problem nur bei mir auf? Ich werde ja wohl sicher nicht der einzige eTrex-Legend-HCx-Nutzer hier sein. Bei mir ist es (bzw. tut noch) auf einem extrex _vista HCx aufgetreten. Gruß Jens

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Februar 2010 18:25 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: Soll das dann auch wieder mit Relationen gemacht werden, oder was sind diese sets? Eben keine Relationen die wieder als eigenes Objekt dutzende andere Objekte mit Rollen zusammen kitten. Genau das solls nicht sein.

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM SVN-Script

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 7. Februar 2010 23:24 schrieb Max Andre telegnom@googlemail.com: Hallo, da ich keine Lust mehr hatte mir die neueste JOSM Version händisch auszuchecken und zu kompilieren habe ich mir ein Script für diesen Zweck gebaut. Das Script prüft erst ob die SVN-Version neuer ist als die

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
m.E. rufst Du im Endeffekt nach einem einfachen Typ von Relation (der einfach ist, da er eingeschränkte Möglichkeiten hat, und z.B. nur eine feste Art von Rolle, um die man sich nicht kümmern braucht, weil der Editor das macht, könnte man z.B. Gruppe nennen) mit bedienerfreundlicher

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 8. Februar 2010 02:53 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: Meine Überlegung hat so garnichts mit einer Relation zu schaffen. Das wäre eigentlich nur eine Erweiterung der Objekte die wir haben. Völlig unabhängig von Relationen. Die sollen ja vorhande Objekte ansich fassen. Ich will

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Mirko Küster
ich denke, wir schreiben da etwas aneinander vorbei, IMHO beschreibst Du einen Typ Relation, indem Du dem Way die Fähigkeiten von Relationen geben willst (Du nennst die Relation Way, aber im Prinzip ist es eine Relation, die zusätzlich zu den Nodes auch noch Ways enthält. Wenn Du die Nodes

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM SVN-Script

2010-02-07 Thread Max Andre
Am 08.02.2010 02:17, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 7. Februar 2010 23:24 schrieb Max Andretelegnom@googlemail.com: Hallo, da ich keine Lust mehr hatte mir die neueste JOSM Version händisch auszuchecken und zu kompilieren habe ich mir ein Script für diesen Zweck gebaut. Das Script

Re: [Talk-de] addr:phone vs. phone

2010-02-07 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Montag 08 Februar 2010 02:53:45 schrieb Mirko Küster: Nun meine Überlegung. Warum erweitern wir nicht einfach das Objekt selbst und ermöglichen so mit zusätzlichen Sets, Groups, Name Wumpe, die Eigenschaften gleich direkt am Objekt zu belassen, vermeiden Redundanzen und erschlagen Krücken

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap // OpenCritics

2010-02-07 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Montag 08 Februar 2010 02:31:59 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 7. Februar 2010 23:40 schrieb g.v.zimmerm...@evelope.de Nun zurück zum Grund meiner Mail: Wenn also OpenStreetMap (oder jemand mit den OpentreetMap-Daten) jemals an Features arbeiten sollte, mit denen man lokale

[Talk-de] Lowrance Endura

2010-02-07 Thread Markus
Von Lowrance gibt es das Hand-GPS Endura in drei Versionen. Wer kennt/hat so ein Gerät und kann berichten? Habe dafür mal eine Wikiseite aufgemacht: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Lowrance_Endura Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-in] Yet another GPS-mapper-terrorist

2010-02-07 Thread Shalabh
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, A bit late, but better late than never. http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?673095 is yet another story of gps-mapper-terrorist.(Pardon the technology handicapped journos who had put GPRS instead of

Re: [Talk-in] Yet another GPS-mapper-terrorist

2010-02-07 Thread Pradeep B V
One possible solution would be create a OSM mapping manifesto something to the tune of everything thats reachable/seen by most people should be mappable by most people And people who go out on mapping carry a copy of this manifesto and also a letter addressed to whosoever it may concern and

Re: [Talk-it] differenze tra linee di livello in Opencyclemap e Topo.geofabrik

2010-02-07 Thread Giorgio Scandiuzzo
Il 07/02/2010 0.49, Fabio Alessandro Locati ha scritto: penso sia un problema di proiezione... il liguria le topo.geo sono di qualche metro verso sud (nel mare). Guardate san fruttuoso/portofino e ve ne accorgerete subito -- Fabio Alessandro Locati Era l'altro esempio che volevo fare :-D

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
Ciao Giacomo :-) il wiki ha bisogno di ordine, ed in genere l'ordine lo dovrebbe fare quella persona che si accorge di una mancanza... La wiki tutto sommato non e' cosi' dificile da editare... Te la sentiresti di sistemare la parte che hai trovato non in ordine? se non hai esperienza inizia da

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread Giacomo Chelotti
Il giorno 07 febbraio 2010 13.36, marcellobil...@gmail marcello.bil...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao Giacomo :-) il wiki ha bisogno di ordine, ed in genere l'ordine lo dovrebbe fare quella persona che si accorge di una mancanza... La wiki tutto sommato non e' cosi' dificile da editare... Te

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread Giacomo Boschi
marcellobil...@gmail ha scritto: Ciao Giacomo :-) il wiki ha bisogno di ordine, ed in genere l'ordine lo dovrebbe fare quella persona che si accorge di una mancanza... La wiki tutto sommato non e' cosi' dificile da editare... Te la sentiresti di sistemare la parte che hai trovato non in

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread Damjan Gerli
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:School Per quello che riguarda le scuole proporrei di definire un modo di taggare i vari livelli, per. es. aggiungere anche questi tag oltre al già usato amenity=school: per le scuole primarie (elementari): school_level=IT:primary per le scuole secondarie

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Damjan Gerli ha scritto: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:School Per quello che riguarda le scuole proporrei http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Proposed_features :-) -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.splinder.com/ ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] primi passi

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/7 Damjan Gerli dam...@damjan.net: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:School Per quello che riguarda le scuole proporrei di definire un modo di taggare i vari livelli, per. es. aggiungere anche questi tag oltre al già usato amenity=school: per le scuole primarie (elementari):

[Talk-it] (no subject)

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
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[Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Vi pongo all'attenzione la possibilità d'iniziare a ragionare sulla possibilità di dare al progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia una veste giuridica effettiva (Associazione senza scopo di lucro di tipo ONLUS). ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Luigi Toscano
Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo wrote: Vi pongo all'attenzione la possibilità d'iniziare a ragionare sulla possibilità di dare al progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia una veste giuridica effettiva (Associazione senza scopo di lucro di tipo ONLUS). Semmai lo scopo potrebbe essere la creazione

[Talk-it] Pensare alla creazione di una bozza di legge nazionale da presentare al Governo ed al Parlamento per la liberalizzazione dei dati dati geografici degli enti locali e statali.

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Dovremmo concentrarci sulla creazione e la nascita di un'associazione OpenStreetMap Italia che coordini, promozioni e detti l linee guida della comunità italiana e, soprattutto, che si batta e chieda al Parlamento italiano una nuova legge che liberalizzi i dati geografici e le cartine degli enti

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
No, io pensavo ad un'associazione autonoma ONLUS che possa incarnare le caratteristiche migliori di un local chapter, ma con ramificazioni ed organigrammi plasmati in tutta Italia che possa coordinare e dettare le linee guida della comunità italiana e che possa dotarsi di volontari esperti da

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Luigi Toscano
Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo wrote: No, io pensavo ad un'associazione autonoma ONLUS che possa incarnare le caratteristiche migliori di un local chapter, ma con ramificazioni ed organigrammi plasmati in tutta Italia che possa coordinare e dettare le linee guida della comunità italiana e

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
No, io pensavo ad un'associazione autonoma ONLUS che possa incarnare le caratteristiche migliori di un local chapter, ma con ramificazioni ed organigrammi plasmati in tutta Italia che possa coordinare e dettare le linee guida della comunità italiana e che possa dotarsi di volontari esperti da

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
L'indipendenza e la visibilità dei membri e del progetto OpenStreetMapquesta è la differenza! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Luigi Toscano
Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo wrote: Un caso pratico: Hai mai provato a scrivere ad un ente locale senza veste giuridica per ottenere delle autorizzazioni per foto, entrare in spazi, rilevare spazi come scavi archeologici? Dopo che il local chapter sarà costituito, saremo

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Un privato è un privato che fa dei rilievi GPS altra cosa un'associazione nazionale che chiede qualcosa e, soprattutto, pretende qualcosa che gli spetta dagli enti pubblici!?!?! Il 07/02/10, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardovitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Un caso pratico: Hai mai provato a

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Dipendere da qualcuno è diverso dall'essere qualcosa! Io spero che OpenStreetMap diventi qualcosa in Italia! Il 07/02/10, Luigi Toscanoluigi.tosc...@tiscali.it ha scritto: Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo wrote: Un caso pratico: Hai mai provato a scrivere ad un ente locale senza veste

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Luigi Toscano
Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo wrote: Dipendere da qualcuno è diverso dall'essere qualcosa! Dove è scritto dipendere? Saremo qualcosa con, non dipendenti. Io spero che OpenStreetMap diventi qualcosa in Italia! Fortunatamente lo è già; ovviamente può migliorare. E chiunque aggiunga

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Non è burocrazia inutile.. ..Ora in Italia il progetto OpenStreetMap è anarchico.. ..Io pensavo ad un'associazione snella, efficiente e dotata di esperti attenti e preparati per farla crescere con la realizzazione di conferenze, corsi presso i lug universitari, ecc., ecc. Il 07/02/10,

[Talk-it] Nuovo template IT:Tag intelligente

2010-02-07 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Sperando di aver fatto cosa gradita, ho appena creato una localizzazione italiana del template {{Tag}}. Da ora si possono creare i link alle etichette ed alle chiavi italiane in modo molto più veloce di prima, e soprattutto il link è intelligente, cioè linka alla pagina italiana solo se questa

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo template IT:Tag intelligente

2010-02-07 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
Grande! questa non la sapevo :-( super utile infatti nella pagina principale ho cambiato alcuni link nel area portali cambiandoli in IT: altrimenti andavano in quelli inglesi... da adesso lo fara' in automatico! super! Grazie mille :-) - Original Message - From: Giacomo Boschi

[Talk-it] Local_Meeting_FVG

2010-02-07 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
Si ... ma a quanto pare al momento sembriamo interessati solo io e te? .. oppure troppe mail l'hanno sepolta e quindi non e' stata letta la proposta ... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Friuli_Venezia_Giulia/Local_Meeting_FVG Si potrebbe farlo anche ad aprile in occasione delle giornate del

Re: [Talk-it] Creazione associazione nazionale OpenStreetMap Italia - Il progetto OpenStreetMap in Italia ha bisogno di una veste giuridica

2010-02-07 Thread Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo
Se per te migliorare vuol dire burocrazia inutile.. ...questo significa che il tema associazione OpenStreetMap Italia non è ancora maturo per essere affrontatose ci chiudiamo in ragionamenti anarchici in nome di una libertà che però non significa efficienza! Il 08/02/10, Infoweblan di

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