Well done Andy - I'll make start this week - it'll make a nice change form
tracing buildings. I'll get a wiki page set up so other people can assist
and identify routes to add.
Regards
Brian
On 17 October 2011 10:35, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
At last!
Hi everyone
There is now a section on Sandwell's gritting routes on the mappamercia
wiki page where you can sign up to complete a route, with weblinks to PDF
files describing the various routes. It's good fun and also an opportunity
to visit areas that haven't been touched for some time
Since city status is such an emotive subject in the UK and I believe there's
some kind of competition to choose another couple of cities to be created
this year, I think we should stick with the officially designate dlist
Regards
Brian
On 17 October 2011 10:48, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
are not designed to replace or compete with the Ordnance
Survey-based mapping used by the City Council for detailed planning design-
they are designed for use in digital and print media for public consumption.
Regards
Brian Prangle
OSM West Midlands Community Co-ordinator
0121 604 1141
alternative contact
Hi everyone
Came across this while editing in Smethwick with a source of nbn_opendata .
Relation no is 298889. What is it? It's been edited by a bot known as
xybot- I've contacted the owner and I'm awaiting a reply. Does anybody know
what it is? Whatever it is, it's not rendering, only shows up
Hi All
Selly Oak Relief Road now mapped and edited. While I was at it I also did
the new junction at Burnt Tree Island in Dudley
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Weather permitting I'm heading to an area south of Black Patch Park to
investigate a large area of forest added by user Tom Pople. See you about 8!
Regards
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The M1 between junctions 11 and 13 is a standard 70 mph NSL, but until
spring 2013 it is a 50mph average speed camera regulated section during
upgrade works. After Spring 2013 it will become maxspeed=signals. How to
tag it? My preference would be for the 50mph average speed with a note that
So the result of all the discussion about a proposal to develop and deploy a
bot which failed to get near to a consensus, let alone agreement is
to develop and deploy a bot. The discussion has ignored the basic
problem of not having enough mappers on the ground collecting data - so we
On 8 June 2011 07:58, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
Following on swiftly from Musical Chairs OSM Analaysis is now also
running with the new OS Locator data.
Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half
of the districts have got at least one new road
The Warwick additions are all names in the defunct Stoneleigh Agricultural
Show site. Must get over there and do a survey to see what's happening to
any redevelopment there - unless anyone else wants to volunteer!
I'm firmly of the opinion that this is not work for a bot unless a tag is
added
I'll get this up on the blog
On 31 May 2011 22:12, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@gmail.comwrote:
Trawling through some buried emails I spotted one I had not promoted from
Andy Mabbett. Back in March Christoph joined the regular midlands social
for the last time, his studies in
Being cast as the most guilty party threatening OSM by having the greatest
number of OS data edits and signing the CTs - I thought I'd contribute to
make it clear where I stand. I'm absolutely with Peter Miller on this. I
trust the OSMF implicitly to get it right which is why I signed the CTs.
Hi Andrew
The Black Country is definitely not a daft region! It's a well known region
of the Midlands with a rich industrial legacy encompassing
Wolverhampton,Dudley,Sandwell and Walsall and I've surveyed about 50% of it.
As agreed by the West Midlands mappers a region tag has been placed as a
Hi everyone
How do variable speed limits which are signalled via overhead gantries on
motorways during congestion fit into your schema? I've just tagged sections
of the M42 and M6 in the West Mids with maxspeed=variable and wouldn't want
to see my work obliterated by some new ( and for these
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From: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com
Date: 25 February 2011 09:31
Subject: Artwork featuring Birmingham GPS tracks
To: Talk GB talk...@openstreetmap.org
Hi everyone
I met the two artists planning this work last night - it's a project at
the MAC (http
Hi everyone
I met the two artists planning this work last night - it's a project at
the MAC (http://www.macarts.co.uk/event/plan-b-a-day-in-the-life). Dan is an
occasional contributor to and regular advocate of OpenStreetMap
He has been collecting every journey he makes with a GPS since
How should we map the National Forest? It sits astride the A42 roughly near
Ashby de la Zouch.It's big. It's not a forest (yet) and it's not a national
park. But it's big in terms of local regeneration and tourism development
Regards
Brian
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I've come across 2 of these when editing recently and both have their post
codes redacted with solid red squares. Is this generally the case? If it is
does anyone know why? I'm guessing that no-one can actually send post
directly to these offices. it only gets sent there after a failure of
I couldn't agree more with Richard that there is no co-ordinated effort to
build a true community of occasional mappers, encouraging those who are not
and do not want to be hard-core map geeks, or to publicise what we are doing
to attract more developers and mappers and co-operation from data
I'm afraid I can't make it - have fun!
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Hi Monika
I remember surveying this road - the A4034 does go all the way from Oldbury
to Blackheath and is very busy. Where precisely is your traffic island? Hekp
on the road construction and timelines will probably be got from Sandwell
Council's Highways dept
Regards
Brian
On 31 January 2011
Perhaps we should tag this loopy_juice = avoid_at_all_costs Rgds Brian
On 27 January 2011 16:52, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@gmail.com wrote:
Richard Fairhurst has suggested the next social should be at the Sportsman
on Saltley Road. He's pointed me to this video to convince me
It would be good to have leisure=marina then Gas Street Basin (and others)
in Birmingham would render
On 20 January 2011 11:11, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 20/01/11 11:09, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote:
I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but
non-navigable.
Is anyone working on importing the boundaries from the shape file available
from OS OpenData? Does it have ward level boundaries for major cities?
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Hi everyone
Here's a challenge and probably more of an ethical one than a physical one.
The installation of these by west Midlands Police in Birmingham has caused
a stir in the news. Should we attempt to map them? Despite their being
installed in 31 US cities there's not a single picture of
Has anyone contacted her welcoming her as a new user to OSM and gently
pointing out the consequences of her editing and where she can get help?
It's probably a mistake. I had a new user the other week who didn't think
that editing in Potlatch was in any way connected to anything other than
what
Have we got to the stage of mapping these that it would be worth the effort
in replicating a rendering similar to OpenCycleMap?. The wiki page on long
distance paths seems to have a pretty comprehensive listing and you can get
nice maps when you browse the relation for individual routes. It would
Hi everyone
Cake is now on the wiki for you to grab a slice ( for those of you who are
still able to come)
Regards
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Hi everyone
You might have notice a lot of editing activity recently in Birmingham City
Centre. This is due to the arrival and loading of the aerial imagery we have
been talking about for so long.
Thanks are due to Andy for tiling the aerial imagery. Because of the
licensing restrictions we (Andy
Hi everyone
I've extracted a West Mids specific dataset form ITOWorld's OSM Analyser
which you can find here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_West_Midlands_Map
I'll try to update it every Monday. The next social meeting will take place
in Tamworth (venue and cake TBA) on Thurs 2
Hi everyone
Despite our depleted attendance I think we should still go ahead with this.
In light of a lack of local knowledge about good pubs I propose the Silk
Kite at
59-60 Church Street
Tamworth
Staffordshire
B79 7DF
It's a JD Wetherspoons pub , does food and has had OKish reviews. I'll get
Doing a similar thing slowly in the West Midlands as we survey - stuff we
do now as a local mapping community always includes landuse and some of us
use landuse data recording as an excuse to go out and resurvey older work.
Generally I Iike the effects that addition of landuse gives in urban
The M6 has acquired a new nonsense M6 Toll added (from near the M1 junction
to nowhere near Meriden) by a new user Alan 1988, whose fisrt edits these
are
#4625552 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4625552 May 06,
2010 21:58 (none)
We are trying to stimulate some local expertise up here to complement our
surveying and increasing contacts with public sector bodies which will soon
produce demands to produce more customised maps from our data. So we have
got a small local TV production company(based in the centre of
I'm sure I remember contributing to a page on the mappa-mercia wiki which
listed the bus routes that had been entered as relations. I can't seem to
find it - all I can find is a wikipedia entry which lists ALL the bus routes
in the West Midlands. Can anyone help my memory?
Regards
Brian
We discussed this at our West Mids social meeting and thought it was a good
idea - possibly the West Mids and London groups forming the nucleus to get
this off the ground
Rgds Brian
On 24 April 2010 13:59, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
don't think so
On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:07 AM,
Hi everyone
Andy and I reckon it would be great to complete the Black Country taking
advantage of the data available to us from OSSV. I'm going to tidy up the
wiki at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/Black_Country#Introductionupdating
the tables showing completion ( this might take
Hi everyone
Can you let me know when you've finished your edits so I can get an after
map to go on the blog with the before map. So far it's lookinbg pretty
good!
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Hi everyone
I've compared our data which we knew to be pretty crappy with OS StreetView
and there is a huge amount of work to be done in re-aligning streets and
associated buildings. How do we propose to go about this? Once a street is
re-aligned there's lots of bus stops, POIs and bdgsand
Hi everyone
I know that there are strong opinions on surveying being more fun and more
accurate and richer in POI/addressing/bustops/etc detail but given the scale
and remoteness of what's left to be done in the Black Country, I can't help
feeing that we should make use of all this OS data to
I've just completed a 25 mile stretch of the Centenary Way in Warwickshire
and I'm editing now with the aid of OSSV. Generally it's accurate but I've
found a track on the wrong side of river and the course of a stream crossing
my GPX tracks from the footpath where the footpath clearly stays on one
Hi everyone
The West Mids police re-org comes into effect next week. I've changed all
the police stations I could find in Birmingham - some have had their names
changed e.g Steelhouse Lane police station is now Birmingham Central Police
Station. I couldn't find police stations at Kingstanding,
Can't seem to find Birmingham in your drop down list of bondaries!
regards
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From: highw...@birmingham.gov.uk
Date: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM
Subject: OUR REFERENCE 34288
To: br...@mappa-mercia.org
Hello,
Please see attached the response to your enquiry.
Thank you
Highways Admin
Hi everyone
I've made a start on gritting route 1 (I'm tagging routes as
gritting_route_ref = x). All Solihull routes are priority_1 (they only have
one). Anyone want to help with other routes - there's 9 in total?
Christoph we could probably do with a daily render again
Regards
Brian
Dear Mr Monk
Thank you for your reply, it will take us a couple of weeks to complete the
map. You can of course follow the progress at
http://mappa-mercia.org/gritting-map.shtml and we would be delighted to have
a link on your website once it's completed.
Regards
Brian Prangle
On Fri, Jan 22
Don't be disappointed if your edits don't show up in areas tagged as
pedestrian squares - there's a long standing issue with the renderers that
means anything inside these areas doesn't get rendered ( unless it's been
fixed since the last time I looked)
Regards
Brian
2010/1/19 Andy Mabbett
Hi everyone
We've got an honourable mention on BCC's web site and a link to mappa-mercia
- well done everyone
Regards
Brian
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Date: 2010/1/20
Subject: map link added to birmingham.gov.uk
To: bpran...@googlemail.com
Cc:
Hi Andy
Looks fine to me, although you can only really see this in an editor to text
on the map obscures the island - but is the water positioned correctly? I
looks like on one side you couldn't get a boat around
Regards
brian
2010/1/18 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
Hi folks,
Just to add to Andy's post: priority 3 routes are generally bus routes;
going back over roads already surveyed in this exercise, armed with the data
from Naptan cleared up a lot of no-name roads as well; we even organised an
impromptu tutorial and editing session where two new mappers got going.
Hi eeryone
Congratulations to everyone on a magnificient effort - including an
impromptu drop-in tutorial! One more render for Christoph should do it I've
been all over the map looking for errors and unlogic. This is what I've
amended outside my own edits
Christoph - deleted Abbey Road outside
Hi Mary
Sorry you couldn't make it. I think we shall be organising more of these
drop-in hands-on sessions so successful was this one( this will be in
additon to our regular monthly social pub meetings
regards
Brian
2010/1/17 memoo...@gmail.com
I was sorry to miss the opportunity to meet
Dear all
Just when you thought we'd finished - I've got pdfs for the gritting
routes for Solihull and Walsall.You can find them at
http://www.solihull.gov.uk/Attachments/2009-14WinterPlan.pdf and
http://www.walsall.gov.uk/winter_service_plan_2009-10.pdf. I've sent in
requests to Dudley and
Hi Jeni
These are maintained by the Highways Agency not BCC. Before we go too far on
this we probably need a wider discussion on Talk GB - we've only got BCC
data to work on but I know others are already requesting data fro adjoining
authorities in w mids
regards
Brian
2010/1/16 Jeni
Christoph
We could probably do with a daily rendering if we're serious about
completing this - we need one today as I've added a whole load more
Regards
Brian
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Yup I'd agree with another render later this evening - I've completed
Moseley and I'm working thro' Yardley currently
Regards
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Looks like Christoph will be doing lots of re-rendering! As a by product
I've discovered that lots of the primary/trunk roads which were mapped in
the early days don't have names which makes the job interesting! If we make
the effort what's the betting that we just have mild weather from now on?
The OS disccussion paper was published on 23 December and it proposes a wide
ranging business and organisational change to the OS. In its section
reviewing the market changes and pressure the OS are under it fails to
mention OSM. Is this something we should address? There are 14 specific
questions
Hu everyone
Happy New Year - thought you might like to look at this extract for the West
Mids from Peter Reed's latest published data for the UK comparing DfT stats
on total road Kms compared to OSM's
Regards
Brian
Name Area km2 DfT total OSM total Coverage Birmingham City Council
Hi all
Since we decided to go with the funds we have in order to pilot the process
rather than wait to complete our funding target for ALL the West Mids,
things have been busy. We have a server and a sysadmin to set this up and
import the images all FOC ( thanks to Andy Allan and the
Hi Christoph
It appears the police are pretty well organised on their web site with
google maps (http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/maps/index.asp). I think we
should still go ahead but maybe there won't be so much publicity potential.
We need to think through how we promote what we're doing.
Hi everyone
Andrew has had great difficulty in finding a venue ( events have just
conspired against him) so the mapping intro party is OFF. Anyone who'd
planned to go - you can go and have fun mapping elsewhere. Sandwell anyone
:-) ? Andrew wants to focus on smaller residents groups led by
Hi all
Don't forget this event. We don't have a venue with internet access as yet
but we're planning to meet by default at the Library at 10am. This is not a
day to map (most of CW apart from some footways is mapped) but more to
handhold local residents who show up and hopefully get a core of
In response to Peter's request for feed back for his top brass look at the
detail we can achieve for example at West Brom bus station and Dudley bus
station, also the growing bus route map for the West Midlands (
not the case.
I don't know however whether curry (or brought in food) would suit
everyone
who wanted food however.
Cheers
Paul
2009/9/22 Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org:
Hi everyone
I propose that we
the pub if this were
not the case.
I don't know however whether curry (or brought in food) would suit
everyone
who wanted food however.
Cheers
Paul
2009/9/22 Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org:
Hi everyone
I propose that we default to the Queens Arms for Thursday Oct 1st for
7pm
Hi everyone
I propose that we default to the Queens Arms for Thursday Oct 1st for 7pm
(no mapping - too dark!) Unless anyone knows of a pub with wifi=yes,
food=yes, karaoke=no
Regards
Brian
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Hi all
Before Christoph responds to the rest of the country and recodes his viewer
I think we need to reflect how we preserve what we've already done in the
West Midlands with shelters and route-refs. Possibly with some more
colours on the icons?
Regards
Brian
Hi everyone
Shelter = yes/no I think is essential to leave in as a requirement as to
whether a bus stop is completley surveyed or not. For two reasons:
indication of a shelter is a representation of what's present on the ground
and it's a pretty siginificant presence ( after all we tag and map
Hi Peter
Could the flight try to cover the Long Marston rail depot about 3 miles
south of Stratford? I mapped as much as could on a cycle ride that passed by
the perimeter, and would like to complete it.
Regards
Brian
2009/9/8 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com
Just to let you know
Do we want to add route=coach to differentiate long distance routes operated
in the UK mainly by National Express and which mainly travel city to city
with very limited stops, from the typical bus services which operate within
cities or short distance between adjacent or closely related towns and
Finally decided to map red routes after avoiding it for over a year (red
routes are sprouting up rapidly in South Birmingham despite fierce
oppostion from local traders - they're no stopping routes which are
rigidly enforced). There's not much to guide me as a mapper following a
quick search in
One more thing about roundabouts as if it isn't complex enough already:
which street/road name do roundabouts get from all the roads entering them?
I can never decide so I just don't add a name ( except where it is a major
roundabout on a ring road for instance which tends to get and individual
Hi all
I'm the guilty party who split up the roundabouts in question to put the bus
route relation through it. What do we want correct roundabout junction tags
or correct bus routes? I did it this way by splitting the roundabout
because it's obviously a roundabout from it shape and
Hi all
I'm the guilty party who split up the roundabouts in question to put the bus
route relation through it. What do we want correct roundabout junction tags
or correct bus routes? I did it this way by splitting the roundabout
because it's obviously a roundabout from it shape and
Hi Peter
Bus Routes work like this
type=route
route=bus
ref=50
operator= National Express West Midlands
name= NXWM Bus Route 50
Thanks for having a go and helping out in Birmingham - I've edited your
relation for bus route 50 to reflect the above. Look forward to seeing it
rendered in opnvkarte
Have a go at mapping one bus route to start with - it's great fun! We were
helped enormously by having the trial NaPTAN import so we got a good grid of
bus stops mapped where we agreed as a local group to make sure all the route
nos where displayed on bus stops were tagged. It's a good idea to
You might like to take a look at http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/ where the
results of our mapping party this weekend on the bus station are shown(we
didn't just do the bus station btw!), compared to the raw NaPTAN data and
what the other mapping providers think West Brom bus station looks like.
Hi everyone:
I've started a wiki page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN_Error_Log#NaPTAN_Error_Logwhere
we can log errors between what we survey on the ground and what theNaPTAN
database reckons is there, in one place to which anyone responsible
professionally for NaPTAN data can be
I agree that this makes sense - the only change I would want is for the
green (i.e completed) status to also require the presence of shelter=yes/no
i.e presence of shelter key regardless of value
2009/4/3 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com
Christoph,
Hi Peter
The relative absence is mainly down to experience that the traces were so
unreliable as to be only a guide and a lot of streets are estimations only.
I tried using a compass to get bearings but standing in the middle of a road
with a compass causes a lot of disturbance so I desisted.
Hi everyone
I promised at out last meeting to share the source for pipeline markers:
http://www.linewatch.co.uk/legends.htm
Regards
Brian
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We discussed at our West Mids meeting last night the best way forward. Here
is what we would like to see happen:
1. Proceeed with the import on the basis of the proposed naptan taggings.
All imported data should have the naptan: prefix as we feel it is important
to identify the
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