Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-sardinia] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Marco Barbieri
Si sta lavorando su un Atlante Toponomastico Sardo dal lontano 2004... Ultima notizia che sono riuscito a trovare sul web è questa: http://www.regione.sardegna.it/j/v/25?c=220=118902=1=2 In base al progetto, i nomi dei comuni sardi in lingua sarda dovrebbero essere tutti stati definiti via

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Andrea Decorte
Ciao a tutti, aggiungo la mia opinione. A favore della doppia denominazione nel name per la Sardegna e altrove. Per ragioni storiche, culturali e anche amministrative (lingua riconosciuta come minoranza linguistica). Per il Friuli, abbiamo gia fatto questa discussione tempo fa. Ero e sono a favore

[OSM-talk] Beginning with contribution

2016-08-05 Per discussione Abhishek Gupta
Hello, I have recently developed great interest in OOP and want to improve my skills in this domain. Since this project makes use of Java programming language, I find it very exciting to become a part of the project as it will also introduce me to the world of open source beside improving my OOP

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione andriatz
Infatti son d'accordo, se il problema dei toponimi si presenta in altre zone, oltre la Sardegna, non vedo dove sia il problema nell'indicarli con la doppia denominazione. In realta' e' una questione che ha radici storiche profonde, con tutta evidenza non ancora risolte: i toponimi in italiano sono

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Aury88
dieterdreist wrote > sent from a phone > >> Il giorno 04 ago 2016, alle ore 10:12, Aury88 > spacedriver88@ > ha scritto: >> >> tutte le >> località con due nomi non hanno name ma solo name:xx e la facciamo >> finita > > > si, così non ci saranno più nomi sulla maggior parte delle mappe

[OSM-talk] Created OpenHistoricalMap Slack Channel

2016-08-05 Per discussione Hans De Kryger
Come join! https://openhistoricalmap.slack.com Hope to make it a vibrant community. *Regards,* *Hans* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Aury88
Francesca Valentina wrote > Ciao, > i nomi in italiano sono spesso traduzioni dal sardo. Penso che decisioni > salomoniche dall' esterno che non tengano conto della conoscenza del > territorio, del bilinguismo istituzionale e reale, della legge e > dell'utilizzo effettivo della lingua non una zona

Re: [Talk-it] Meglio fixme o nota

2016-08-05 Per discussione Carlo Stemberger
Il giorno 4 agosto 2016 16:29, emmexx ha scritto: > dal punto di vista operativo preferite che si usi fixme su un elemento > oppure una nota quando e' necessario segnalare (a se stessi o agli altri > mappatori) che qualcosa va completato, modificato? > Nota. Carlo

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Paolo Monegato
Il 04/08/2016 17:58, Fayor Uno ha scritto: Ed è chiaro che, essendo una questione di rilevanza nazionale, la decisione non spetta solo ai locali, altrimenti chiunque metterebbe il nome che più gli piace con motivazioni tipo: il pallone è mio e decido io chi gioca. Perché mai dovrebbe essere

[Talk-it] rendering cascata

2016-08-05 Per discussione emmexx
Nei giorni scorsi ho "corretto" i tag asssociati ad una cascata. Avevo deciso di andare a vederla dopo averla vista su mapnik. Poi ho aggiunto un po' di dettagli, ho aggiornato i tag usando il sistema consigliato ora (waterway=waterfall...) e ora praticamente non si vede piu' nulla. Il rendering

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Fayor Uno
Intendiamoci, con rilevanza nazionale voglio dire che, come anche evidenziato aury88, sarebbe bene avere uno standard unico per situazioni analoghe, quindi non va che in Friuli decidano una cosa e in Sardegna un'altra se hanno la stessa situazione. Quando dico che non devono decidere i locali

[Talk-at] Stammtisch Wien

2016-08-05 Per discussione Markus Mayr
Hallo liebe Mitmapper und Mitmapperinnen! Mitten im Sommer findet wieder ein Stammtisch in Wien statt! Am Donnerstag dem 11. August 2016 ist es soweit. Wie gehabt im Wieden Bräu, falls Schönwetter ist und wir einen Platz dort ergattern im Gastgarten, ansonsten Drinnen.

Re: [Talk-it] rendering cascata

2016-08-05 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 05 ago 2016, alle ore 13:37, emmexx ha > scritto: > > faccio un revert? dalla tua mail non si capisce perché non dai riferimento al l'oggetto osm e non dici come era taggato prima ;-) ciao, Martin

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap "Elbe-Labe Meeting" in October, 8-9th 2016, Dresden, Germany

2016-08-05 Per discussione SB79
Dear all, the "Elbe-Labe-Meeting" is an OpenStreetMap community event and will take place in October, 8-9th 2016 in Dresden (Germany). We intend to bring together OpenStreetMap enthusiasts from the Czech Republic, Germany, and beyond. You map, use OpenStreetMap data, or contribute in another

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Luca Meloni
Anch'io sono assolutamente d'accordo ad avere la doppia denominazione anche in altre zone con situazioni simili. Credo sia una cosa importante per tutte le ragioni che tutti abbiamo elencato. I nomi locali hanno una quantità di informazioni legate a loro spesso anche più alta di quelli nati

Re: [Talk-it] rendering cascata

2016-08-05 Per discussione emmexx
On 08/05/2016 02:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > dalla tua mail non si capisce perché non dai riferimento al l'oggetto osm e > non dici come era taggato prima La questione e' generale e non riguarda un singolo oggetto. Comunque si tratta di questo:

Re: [OSM-talk] Beginning with contribution

2016-08-05 Per discussione Andy Townsend
On 05/08/2016 07:56, Abhishek Gupta wrote: 1. First of all, is OOP being used in the project? Can I have support the project in a way it improves my OOP skills? Yes, lots of the software are OSM is OO based (and so is pretty much everywhere else in the world today - after all, even OO COBOL

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 05 ago 2016, alle ore 20:04, Fayor Uno ha > scritto: > > Intendiamoci, con rilevanza nazionale voglio dire che, come anche evidenziato > aury88, sarebbe bene avere uno standard unico per situazioni analoghe, quindi > non va che in Friuli

Re: [Talk-it] [english 100%] Re: Edit war Sardegna

2016-08-05 Per discussione Paolo Monegato
Il 05/08/2016 14:28, Luca Meloni ha scritto: Eh, io l'avevo fatto perché l'idea iniziale era di creare un modello unico per tutte le varie regioni/aree, e volevo imitare quello della provincia di Bolzano/Bozen con l'ordine impostato secondo il numero di madrelingua, dato che esisteva già e mi

[OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Per discussione Erik Moeller
Hi all, I'm working on this project: https://lib.reviews/ The front page explains the goal: to build a free, open and non-profit community focused on reviews. Review content is under CC-BY-SA while the codebase is under CC-0. Basic functionality to write reviews is there (we identify things to

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Per discussione Michał Brzozowski
Have you devised any robust algorithm for linking OSM primitives to objects in the external database? In general case, it seems really hard to track objects as they get converted from nodes to areas, or decide whether given OSM feature is no longer representing some entity in the external

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Per discussione Pine W
Hi Erik, Interesting project, though I must admit some caution about its success. How do you plan to develop readership for this site? Yelp seems to have a commanding lead. Pine On Aug 5, 2016 18:17, "Erik Moeller" wrote: > Hi Michał, > > Thanks for your comments! > > On

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Per discussione Erik Moeller
Hi Michał, Thanks for your comments! On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Have you devised any robust algorithm for linking OSM primitives to > objects in the external database? In general case, it seems really > hard to track objects as they get

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Andy Allan
On 4 August 2016 at 19:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: > If the consensus is that schoolgrounds which consist only of a single > polygon (without holes) should be rather mapped as a closed way I can > change this Yes please. Thanks, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Christian Ledermann
I changed the logic, example changeset: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90404 1) single polygons are rendered as ways, with the same tags as before plus area=yes 2) when it is a single polygon the holes get ignored Thanks for all your input this was very helpful :-) On 5 August

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Christian Ledermann
and just for clarification: If a schoolground consists of several polygons it will be added as before as a multipolygon. the tags get added to the relation not the individual ways it is made out of. On 5 August 2016 at 17:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: > I changed

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Chris Hill
Why do you need area=yes? On 5 August 2016 17:13:01 BST, Christian Ledermann wrote: >I changed the logic, example changeset: >http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90404 > >1) single polygons are rendered as ways, with the same tags as before >plus area=yes

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Lester Caine
On 05/08/16 17:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: > I changed the logic, example changeset: > http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90404 > > 1) single polygons are rendered as ways, with the same tags as before > plus area=yes > 2) when it is a single polygon the holes get ignored > > Thanks

[Talk-es] Concretando Re: Quedemos en Zaragoza en Septiembre

2016-08-05 Per discussione Jaime Crespo
En principio sería el el fin de semana del 16 de septiembre en Zaragoza. El viernes por la tarde la idea sería haces una sessión "de cara para afuera", donde la gente de Wikimedia España presenta su asociación en algún auditorio. Me gustaría si alguien pudiera enmarronarse en hacer una brevísima

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Dave F
On 04/08/2016 19:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: If the consensus is that schoolgrounds which consist only of a single polygon (without holes) should be rather mapped as a closed way I can change this That would be good. Multi-polygons of single objects adds an unnecessary layer of

Re: [OSM-ja] 点字ブロックの区分についての質問です。

2016-08-05 Per discussione Masataka Shinke
東様、muramoto様お返事ありがとうございます。 新家です。 この活動をはじめたのが、2014年11月からでした。 その当時OSMの広島県内の歩道タグの全長930kmくらいに対して点字ブロックのタグ付けされたものが30kmで未整備の状態で、 現在もその状況はあまり変わっていませんが、これから整備するにあたり、将来的に利用される仕様で整備を進めればと考えています。 歩道を利用は、徒歩、車椅子、点字ブロック利用者、自転車（歩道幅が３m以上の場合）など利用者など利用形態は様々。 またGPS以外にビーコンなどを使った位置情報のマッピングなど課題はたくさんあると思います。

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2016-08-05 12:54, Dave F wrote: > On 04/08/2016 19:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: > >> If the consensus is that schoolgrounds which consist only of a single >> polygon (without holes) should be rather mapped as a closed way I can >> change this > > That would be good. > Multi-polygons of

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Dave F
On 05/08/2016 17:13, Christian Ledermann wrote: I changed the logic, example changeset: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90404 The way needs to be properly closed & there's no need for area=yes for this amenity. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Dave F
On 05/08/2016 16:37, Colin Smale wrote: Surely the tags should be on the MP relation, so you still only have to edit one object? Otherwise, maybe you could illustrate what use case you have in mind when you say you have to "search for all members". Geometry Dave F.

Re: [Talk-de] Umwandeln von .osm-Dateien in PDF

2016-08-05 Per discussione Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 05.08.2016 16:08, Sven Geggus wrote: > Ich verwende für solche Aufgaben in der Regel nik2img. Das verwendet auch > Frederik Ramm für seine großformatigen Ausdrucke. Alternativ gibt es auch nik4 das zumindest von sich selbst behauptet etwas bessere Ergebnisse zu liefern als nik2img:

Re: [Talk-es] Concretando Re: Quedemos en Zaragoza en Septiembre

2016-08-05 Per discussione Jaime Crespo
2016-08-05 14:15 GMT+02:00 Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández < cruzki...@gmail.com>: > Como no podía ser de otra forma, es justo el fin de semana que no > puedo :S A ver si convenzo a alguien en Deusto para que vaya. :-( A ver si alguien más que no sea de Zaragoza se anima!

Re: [Talk-ca] Participating in the OSM forum

2016-08-05 Per discussione Stewart C. Russell
Hi Laura, > I was trying to register at the OSM forum. It appears as though new > registrations are closed. Try your OSM user name and password. Mine seemed to work, and I don't think I've ever posted there before. This should really use OAuth, he grumbles uselessly ... Stewart

[Talk-ca] Participating in the OSM forum

2016-08-05 Per discussione Laura O'Grady
Hi all, I was trying to register at the OSM forum. It appears as though new registrations are closed. Here's the message I get from this link, http://forum.openstreetmap.org/register.php. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" Does anyone know why? Is there some kind of limit with

[Talk-ca] Statistics Canada buildings - iD interface

2016-08-05 Per discussione Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
When we launch, the plan so far is to have a modified version of iD for Canadians to use. This version will be hosted by StatCan wrapped in a basic StatCan website. The options were to simply direct towards the OSM webpage with the default iD, to use a modified iD version that we host or to use

semanarioOSM Nº 315 26/07/2016-01/08/2016

2016-08-05 Per discussione weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 315, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/7916/ ¡Disfruta! weeklyOSM en Español está producido por: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Languages

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Dave F
On 05/08/2016 12:11, Colin Smale wrote: On the other hand, consumers will have to deal with the MP model anyway, so having multiple models for the same thing is actually adding to the complexity. MP's were never conceived as a blanket 'cover all' solution. "I did it for a couple of

semanarioOSM Nº 315 26/07/2016-01/08/2016

2016-08-05 Per discussione weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 315, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/7916/ ¡Disfruta! weeklyOSM en Español está producido por: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Languages

semanarioOSM Nº 315 26/07/2016-01/08/2016

2016-08-05 Per discussione weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 315, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/7916/ ¡Disfruta! weeklyOSM en Español está producido por: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Languages

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Andy Allan
On 5 August 2016 at 13:41, Colin Smale wrote: > What I meant was, having established that some (many?) schools will need to > use the MP model, all consumers (for this data) will need to be ready to > process MPs anyway. Our mapping conventions are based on our mappers,

Re: [Talk-es] Concretando Re: Quedemos en Zaragoza en Septiembre

2016-08-05 Per discussione Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández
Como no podía ser de otra forma, es justo el fin de semana que no puedo :S A ver si convenzo a alguien en Deusto para que vaya. El día 5 de agosto de 2016, 10:55, Jaime Crespo escribió: > En principio sería el el fin de semana del 16 de septiembre en Zaragoza. > > El viernes por

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 102, Issue 19

2016-08-05 Per discussione Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
John, I believe instructions should be provided somewhere. It’s a good idea to document the project like the LA building and to have a page where guidance is provided on how to do buildings. The wiki for the project could do that. We will have a presentation page that could point there for

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2016-08-05 14:17, Dave F wrote: > On 05/08/2016 12:11, Colin Smale wrote: > >> On the other hand, consumers will have to deal with the MP model anyway, so >> having multiple models for the same thing is actually adding to the >> complexity. > > MP's were never conceived as a blanket

[Talk-de] OpenStreetMap-Treffen "Elbe-Labe Meeting" am 8./9. Oktober 2016 in Dresden

2016-08-05 Per discussione SB79
Das "Elbe-Labe-Meeting", ein OpenStreetMap Wochenende in Dresden, wird dieses Jahr am 8./9. Oktober zum ersten Mal stattfinden. Das zweitägige Community-Treffen wird OSM-Aktive aus Tschechien, Deutschland und darüber hinaus zusammenbringen. Vom Mapper, Datennutzer bis zum Hacker sind alle

semanarioOSM Nº 315 26/07/2016-01/08/2016

2016-08-05 Per discussione weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 315, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/7916/ ¡Disfruta! weeklyOSM en Español está producido por: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Languages

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Paul Norman
On 8/5/2016 5:59 AM, Andy Allan wrote: Our mapping conventions are based on our mappers, not consumers. As you say, it's easy for the consumers to handle both situations, but it's harder for mappers to deal with multipolygons-with-one-outer than just a basic closed way. Speaking as a data

Re: [Talk-de] Umwandeln von .osm-Dateien in PDF

2016-08-05 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 05 ago 2016, alle ore 20:02, Hartmut Holzgraefe > ha scritto: > > Beide setzen aber voraus dass man die OSM-Daten für den zu rendernden > Ausschnitt vorab in eine PostGIS-Datenbank importiert hat. +1, beides sind scripte um mit

Re: [Talk-ca] Participating in the OSM forum

2016-08-05 Per discussione Laura O'Grady
Hi Stewart, OSM credentials worked. Thanks. Laura > On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Hi Laura, > >> I was trying to register at the OSM forum. It appears as though new >> registrations are closed. > > Try your OSM user name and password. Mine

Re: [Talk-de] Umwandeln von .osm-Dateien in PDF

2016-08-05 Per discussione Sven Geggus
sebast...@debianfan.de wrote: > Ich komme aber mit den Umwandlungsprogrammen nicht klar - als letztes > hat mir "kosmos" gesagt, das "INT32 zu groß" wäre - seltsame > Fehlermeldung :-( Den Vorgang nennt man in der Regel rendern. Mapnik wäre das Programm mit dem der

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Lester Caine
On 05/08/16 14:51, Colin Smale wrote: > Anyway, I was only intending to offer a different perspective on the > discussion, not to start a war. We have a well documented style for school mapping which resulted in a large number being added up until April and it would make more sense to follow that

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2016-08-05 14:59, Andy Allan wrote: > On 5 August 2016 at 13:41, Colin Smale wrote: > >> What I meant was, having established that some (many?) schools will need to >> use the MP model, all consumers (for this data) will need to be ready to >> process MPs anyway. > >

[OSM-Talk-ZA] Compiling ZA Open Geo List

2016-08-05 Per discussione Grant Slater
Hi All, I have started compiling a list of Open Geo data providers in South Africa. Any help expanding the list would be appreciated. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TRldpu2DfLgTENQxGY8tKpkBK181FnECcA_zX4wfE9Q/edit#gid=0 Kind regards, Grant

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-05 Per discussione Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-08-05 11:08 PM, Laura O'Grady wrote: > I just noticed that there is a project for Ottawa in the Canadian > Tasking Manager [1] called, "#2 - Ottawa Building Update". This looks a little old - it was last used 8 months ago. It also has some unnecessary guidelines, such as adding the

[Talk-ca] Sujet à discussion: relation multipolygone (natural:forest)

2016-08-05 Per discussione dega
Bonjour à tous Lorsque les importations NRC ont commencé dans le nord du Québec, il y avait surtout des lacs et des chemins. Quelqu'un a eu l'idée de tout combiner dans des relations, ce qui procurait l'avantage de permettre de définir la forêt come couche de fond. C'est ce qui donne à la carte

[Talk-cz] Setkání Elbe-Labe

2016-08-05 Per discussione Tom Ka
Ahoj, na žádost organizátorů přeposílám oznámení: Poznamenejte si do kalendáře: OpenStreetMap "Setkání Elbe-Labe" o víkendu 7. - 9. října 2016 "Setkání Elbe-Labe" je akce OpenStreetMap komunity, která se koná v 7. - 9. října 2016 v německých Drážďanech. Rádi bychom dali dohromady nadšence do

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Dave F
On 05/08/2016 13:41, Colin Smale wrote: What I meant was, having established that some (many?) schools will need to use the MP model, all consumers (for this data) will need to be ready to process MPs anyway. A single polygon consisting of a single way is just a degenerate case of an MP.

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools

2016-08-05 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2016-08-05 17:10, Dave F wrote: > What I meant was, it makes it more time consuming for those mappers who add > data. > If the school (or whatever) needs to be edited & I see it's an MP, to ensure > I'm amending all instances correctly I have to do a search for all members. A > bit