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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM hospůdka Praha

2016-03-01 Per discussione Marián Kyral

Ahoj,
Tak to bohužel dopadlo tak, že se příští týden do Prahy nedostanu :-(

Tak si to užijte a podejte pak zprávu.
Marián


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Pavel Zbytovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 26. 2. 2016 8:31:47
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM hospůdka Praha

"
Prý Kompletně nekuřácké restaurace, tak to beru. Za mě dobrý :)


pá 26. 2. 2016 v 8:14 odesílatel Marián Kyral  napsal:

"
Ahoj
-- Původní zpráva --

Od: Pavel Zbytovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 26. 2. 2016 8:07:18
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM hospůdka Praha



"
Tak všichni už za hlasovali, a kupodivu ve středu 9.3. v 18 mohou úplně 
všichni. Tedy Pražská hospoda je domluvená.

Jestli nejste proti, pustil bych to jako event na Facebooku a twitteru 
Osmcz, A podle počtu potom za rezervujeme místo. Mluvil jsem včera se 
správcem paralelní polis, že by to tam asi šlo. Jak se na to tváříte? Nebude
nám chybět večeře?

"





Mně asi bude. A co pivo?

Nezkusíme ten Kulový blesk, jak psal Honza? http://www.openstreetmap.org/
node/2407687575#map=17/50.07395/14.42979
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2407687575#map=17/50.07395/14.42979)




Marián




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čt 25. 2. 2016 v 14:04 odesílatel Pavel Zbytovský  napsal:

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Jak to vypadá?
Láďo Lásko + Petře Morávku, zkuste ještě doplnit [1] ten další týden...třeba
středa 9.3... což?




P.





[1] http://doodle.com/poll/emkam2hxeir5tmxz
(http://doodle.com/poll/emkam2hxeir5tmxz)









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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping Party: infrastructure for the homeless

2016-03-01 Per discussione Marc Gemis

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Julien Fastré  wrote:
> We mapped some "marchés gratuits" with this tag. The pitch of those
> "marchés gratuits" : you can leave in a box items you do not need, and
> other people might pick them.
>
> There is a proposed feature for this :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse

I just looked at taginfo. They didn't had a link to this page. For me,
that proposal page is sufficient, since it is now documented what you
mean with it.
Getting the proposal approved will only bring unneeded administrative work imho.
So I learned something new today, thanks Julien !

regards

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Re: [talk-au] Position magazine: looking for perspectives on G-NAF

2016-03-01 Per discussione Andrew Harvey

Hey Anthony,

I'm happy to address any specific questions you have, but be aware
that there is no one person who represents OSM for comments to the
media, rather we are a bunch of contributors each with their own
thoughts and views.

My thoughts are it's great that this data has finally been released as
it will result in much added value to various users.

In the long run I would love to see this data integrated into OSM, but I
think we want to ensure we have a proper plan and not just rush into an
import with out thinking it through and having a plan first.

Questions I think we as the OSM community need to deal with include:

* How can we deal with the GNAF license? It includes a restriction on
  creating using the data for sending mail, of course we don't want and
  won't impose such a restriction on OSM, hence it's immediately not
  compatible. We need a solid understanding of if this is an issue from
  a legal perspective and how we can resolve it.

* If licensing is resolved then the next issue is how does the data in
  GNAF compare with existing address data in OSM. I don't think we want
  to just delete all addresses within OSM and dump in GNAF. We want to
  merge the two datasources such that if addressing is already in OSM
  and correct, we'll leave that and not include the entry from GNAF. I'm
  working on generating some reports at the moment which will show how
  widespread this is.

* If an import did happen, then how do we want to deal with a
  continually updated GNAF and continually updated OSM. Would we keep
  updating untouched GNAF derived addresses imported into OSM and not
  update the rest, or flag the rest to be re-checked in OSM, etc.

* Personally I think OSM should in it's primary tags, map what's on the
  ground not what the authoritative says should be on the ground. If the
  authoritative data says there is street here named X, but the street
  signs say it's named Y, it should have the primary tag Y and an
  official_name or authoritive_name of X. For this reason, I think there
  are valid reasons where OSM would be different than GNAF.

At the moment, the easiest way forward for most folks wanting free and
open geospatial data is to use OSM + GNAF (so combine them within the
application rather than within the OSM database). I think long term it
would be great to integrate them at a lower level in the OSM database,
but for now this combine at the application level approach is a very
straight foward way for folks to use  open geospatial data.

These are just my thoughts, would love for others to weigh in on
their thinking.

Cheers,
--
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CEO
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, at 08:06 PM, Anthony Wallace wrote:
> Hi there, 

>  

> I’m looking to gather various perspectives on the
> 
release of G-NAF[1], particularly around how it can be incorporated into OSM.

>  

> I was hoping you could please identify prominent individuals with in the 
> Australian OSM community who would be appropriate.

>  

> The result will be an article or articles about the subject for both Position 
> magazine and Spatial Source.

>  

> Cheers, 

>  

>  

>  

> *Anthony Wallace*

> *Editor*

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> 
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> *From:* Anthony
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> *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Position magazine: looking for perspectives on G-NAF

>  

> Hi there, 

>  

> I’m looking to gather various perspectives on the
> 
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>  

> I was hoping you could please identify prominent individuals with in the 
> Australian OSM community who would be appropriate.

>  

> The result will be an article or articles about the subject for both Position 
> magazine and Spatial Source.

>  

> Cheers, 

>  

> *Anthony Wallace*

> *Editor*

> Position magazine +
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Winkelketens / Chain stores

2016-03-01 Per discussione Marc Gemis

Since you mention department store, I guess I have to update the
Carrefour entry on the wiki and split it according to the size of the
"supermarket". Carrefour Hypermarkets should probably be department
stores, after all they sell more than the regular supermarket.

m

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:58 AM, joost schouppe  wrote:
> This is a good one :)
> What do you call a shop that has books, electronics, music, camera and
> hi-fi. There are some more options when you look at France :
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/eJj
>
> So it looks Iike it gets tagged as whatever the mapper seems to buy at FNAC
> :)
> I saw shop=yes, also books, hifi, and even several values with ;
> Maybe department store makes most sense?
> On the other hand, it's definitely a good example of the tagging issue
> "should we describe the category, or collect details allowing people to make
> a category". Here it might absolutely make sense to use shop=yes + a list of
> items sold.
>
> Op 2-mrt.-2016 05:50 schreef "Marc Gemis" :
>
>> I am wondering how a Fnac shop should be tagged. There are only 2
>> shops mapped so far in Belgium. One is mapped as shop=yes, the other
>> as electronics.
>>
>> Hoe zouden jullie een Fnac winkel mappen ? Er zijn er nog maar 2 in
>> Belgie, eentje is een shop=yes, de ander shop=electronics.
>>
>> m
>>
>> 2016-02-27 21:56 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
>> > brand:wikidata is already there.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Jo  wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I can't answer the actual question, but I do want to add that we should
>> >> add
>> >> brand:wikidata and operator:wikidata as well.
>> >>
>> >> Jo
>> >>
>> >> Op 27 februari 2016 20:31 schreef Marc Gemis :
>> >>>
>> >>> -- English below --
>> >>> Hallo,
>> >>>
>> >>> In het buitenland bestaan er al een aantal pagina's die aangeven hoe
>> >>> je winkeltekens moet taggen. Ik dacht nu hetzelfde te doen voor
>> >>> België. [1]
>> >>> Sander was zo vriendelijk om een template te maken om zodat het
>> >>> eenvoudiger is om nieuwe winkelketens toe te voegen. Quick [2] volgt
>> >>> dit al.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nu is mijn vraag: hoe gaan we om met name/brand/operator ? bv. bij
>> >>> KBC:
>> >>>
>> >>> name = KBC Reet
>> >>> brand = KBC
>> >>> operator = KBC Groep NV
>> >>>
>> >>> Dus vermelden we bij de naam de gemeente / wijk of niet ? We doen dit
>> >>> bv. ook al voor bushaltes. JBC doet dit ook op zijn website.
>> >>>
>> >>> Het zal wel afhangen van de keten, in sommige gevallen is de operator
>> >>> een prive persoon. Hoe map je bijvoorbeeld een kantoor van Record bank
>> >>> ?
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW, iedereen mag zijn/haar favoriete winkelketen toevoegen.
>> >>>
>> >>> mvg
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -- English --
>> >>>
>> >>> In some neighboring countries, they have set up wiki pages on how to
>> >>> map chain stores. I want to do the same for Belgium [1]. Sander was so
>> >>> kind to help out and set up a template to easily add new chains.
>> >>> Currently, only Quick [2] follows this template.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, I have a question regarding name/brand/operator. What goes
>> >>> where ? Eg. for KBC
>> >>>
>> >>> name=KBC Reet
>> >>> brand=KBC
>> >>> operator=KBC Groep NV
>> >>>
>> >>> Do we want to add the place/neighborhood to the name or not ? JBC does
>> >>> this on their website. I also wonder how I can properly tag offices of
>> >>> Record bank. They explicitly mention some name (or operator).
>> >>>
>> >>> Feel free to add your favorite chain to the wikipages.
>> >>>
>> >>> regards
>> >>>
>> >>> m
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/ChainStores
>> >>> [2]
>> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:NL:BelgianChainStores:Q
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Winkelketens / Chain stores

2016-03-01 Per discussione Marc Gemis

I am wondering how a Fnac shop should be tagged. There are only 2
shops mapped so far in Belgium. One is mapped as shop=yes, the other
as electronics.

Hoe zouden jullie een Fnac winkel mappen ? Er zijn er nog maar 2 in
Belgie, eentje is een shop=yes, de ander shop=electronics.

m

2016-02-27 21:56 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
> brand:wikidata is already there.
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Jo  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I can't answer the actual question, but I do want to add that we should add
>> brand:wikidata and operator:wikidata as well.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> Op 27 februari 2016 20:31 schreef Marc Gemis :
>>>
>>> -- English below --
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> In het buitenland bestaan er al een aantal pagina's die aangeven hoe
>>> je winkeltekens moet taggen. Ik dacht nu hetzelfde te doen voor
>>> België. [1]
>>> Sander was zo vriendelijk om een template te maken om zodat het
>>> eenvoudiger is om nieuwe winkelketens toe te voegen. Quick [2] volgt
>>> dit al.
>>>
>>> Nu is mijn vraag: hoe gaan we om met name/brand/operator ? bv. bij KBC:
>>>
>>> name = KBC Reet
>>> brand = KBC
>>> operator = KBC Groep NV
>>>
>>> Dus vermelden we bij de naam de gemeente / wijk of niet ? We doen dit
>>> bv. ook al voor bushaltes. JBC doet dit ook op zijn website.
>>>
>>> Het zal wel afhangen van de keten, in sommige gevallen is de operator
>>> een prive persoon. Hoe map je bijvoorbeeld een kantoor van Record bank
>>> ?
>>>
>>> BTW, iedereen mag zijn/haar favoriete winkelketen toevoegen.
>>>
>>> mvg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- English --
>>>
>>> In some neighboring countries, they have set up wiki pages on how to
>>> map chain stores. I want to do the same for Belgium [1]. Sander was so
>>> kind to help out and set up a template to easily add new chains.
>>> Currently, only Quick [2] follows this template.
>>>
>>> However, I have a question regarding name/brand/operator. What goes
>>> where ? Eg. for KBC
>>>
>>> name=KBC Reet
>>> brand=KBC
>>> operator=KBC Groep NV
>>>
>>> Do we want to add the place/neighborhood to the name or not ? JBC does
>>> this on their website. I also wonder how I can properly tag offices of
>>> Record bank. They explicitly mention some name (or operator).
>>>
>>> Feel free to add your favorite chain to the wikipages.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/ChainStores
>>> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:NL:BelgianChainStores:Q
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Re: [talk-au] Position magazine: looking for perspectives on G-NAF

2016-03-01 Per discussione Anthony Wallace

Hi there,

I'm looking to gather various perspectives on the release of 
G-NAF,
 particularly around how it can be incorporated into OSM.

I was hoping you could please identify prominent individuals with in the 
Australian OSM community who would be appropriate.

The result will be an article or articles about the subject for both Position 
magazine and Spatial Source.

Cheers,



Anthony Wallace
Editor
Position magazine +
SpatialSource.com.au
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From: Anthony Wallace [mailto:awall...@intermedia.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2016 2:38 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Position magazine: looking for perspectives on G-NAF

Hi there,

I'm looking to gather various perspectives on the release of 
G-NAF,
 particularly around how it can be incorporated into OSM.

I was hoping you could please identify prominent individuals with in the 
Australian OSM community who would be appropriate.

The result will be an article or articles about the subject for both Position 
magazine and Spatial Source.

Cheers,

Anthony Wallace
Editor
Position magazine +
SpatialSource.com.au
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[Talk-us] Virginia Beach, Virginia Imports

2016-03-01 Per discussione Jonah Adkins

Hey OSM-ers.

I'd like to propose an import of city-sourced GIS data for the City of Virginia 
Beach, Va. The City GIS Office has given the data / license for this purpose.
Conflation will be done carefully by hand, and attributes copied where needed.
142k buildings / 115k with addresses — 81%!!
More info/sample data at links below
Two items of note: there is a geoid field which i will use for splitting the 
blogs into small sections for import, but will be deleted before. The height 
field will be adjusted before importing as well.
Github -> https://github.com/jonahadkins/virginia-beach-OSM-imports
Wiki -> 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/City_of_Virginia_Beach_Buildings/Address_Import
This message has been cross-posted in Talk-US, Imports-US, & Imports.
Thanks
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[Talk-us] State of the Map US 2016 to take place in Seattle!

2016-03-01 Per discussione Alex Barth

We're happy to announce State of the Map US 2016 to take place in Seattle,
Washington from July 23rd to 25th!

Learn all about the conference in the announcement blog post:

https://openstreetmap.us/2016/02/sotmus-2016/

Share the tweet:

https://twitter.com/sotmus/status/704834581271330816

And help shaping the conference by joining the organization working group.

This was a tough pick this year with three amazing proposals came (Boulder
Colorado and St. Louis Missouri in addition to seattle). All proposals were
excellent and big thank you for everyone coming forward and putting
together a bid.

Looking forward to seeing everyone in Seattle!

Alex


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Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Per discussione John Marshall

I agree Tristan

John

John Marshall
On Mar 1, 2016 18:43, "Tristan Anderson" 
wrote:

> Let's not be too hasty in removing large amounts of data, imported years
> ago and subsequently edited by several users in various ways, simply
> because it may or may not be compatible with a future OSM license.  If you
> guys are 100% sure this import contravened ODbL, or if the City of Ottawa's
> lawyers contact OSM with concerns, then by all means redact it.  But to me,
> and I admittedly don't know much when it comes to licensing, we should
> leave this alone for the time being.
>
> This isn't something that needs to be re-imported every year.  Minor
> changes to the bus network that occur from time to time can be updated by
> hand by local users.  I see some updates have already taken place since the
> import was made.  As for duplicate bus stops resulting from a node
> predating the import: I've come across this at least once in the past in a
> neigbourhood I was editing after a recent visit to Ottawa.  I merged the
> tags and deleted the more recent stop.
>
> --
> To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> From: penor...@mac.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:40:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa
>
> On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote:
>
> I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the
> license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to
> City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't know what license it
> may have in OSM in the future.
>
> Data needs to be compatible with our license, which is the ODbL.[1]
>
> Is anyone going to take the responsibility on for removing the data?
>
> Copyright incompatible data needs to be redacted, not just deleted. I'd
> normally be the one doing this, but I'm traveling today.
>
>
> http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License#Can_third-party_ODbL-licensed_data_be_imported.3F
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Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Per discussione Tristan Anderson

Let's not be too hasty in removing large amounts of data, imported years ago 
and subsequently edited by several users in various ways, simply because it may 
or may not be compatible with a future OSM license.  If you guys are 100% sure 
this import contravened ODbL, or if the City of Ottawa's lawyers contact OSM 
with concerns, then by all means redact it.  But to me, and I admittedly don't 
know much when it comes to licensing, we should leave this alone for the time 
being.
This isn't something that needs to be re-imported every year.  Minor changes to 
the bus network that occur from time to time can be updated by hand by local 
users.  I see some updates have already taken place since the import was made.  
As for duplicate bus stops resulting from a node predating the import: I've 
come across this at least once in the past in a neigbourhood I was editing 
after a recent visit to Ottawa.  I merged the tags and deleted the more recent 
stop.

To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
From: penor...@mac.com
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:40:45 +0100
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa


  

  
  
On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote:


  I think
with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the
license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult
to say to City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't
know what license it may have in OSM in the future.

  

Data needs to be compatible with our license, which is the ODbL.[1]


  Is anyone
going to take the responsibility on for removing the data?

Copyright incompatible data needs to be redacted, not just deleted.
I'd normally be the one doing this, but I'm traveling today.



http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License#Can_third-party_ODbL-licensed_data_be_imported.3F

  


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[OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre mensuelle OSM-Lyon 08/03/2016 18h30 - Invitation

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rene Chalon


Bonsoir à tous,

Les mapeurs OSM de Lyon se rencontrent régulièrement le 2ème mardi de 
chaque mois, et chacun peut s'inviter et participer à ces rencontres.

La prochaine aura lieu :

le MARDI 08 MARS à partir de 18h30
à l'espace "Infolab TUBA, 1 Place Charles Béraudier, 69003 LYON"
Accès : M° "Gare Part-Dieu"; Tram T1; Bus C1, C2, C6, C7, C13, C25, 25, 37,
38, 70 ; Vélo'V "Gare Part-Dieu Ouest"

Le CR de la rencontre précédente se trouve sur la page du Wiki-OSM au lien :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lyon/Reunion_09_fevrier_2016

Si vous souhaitez mettre un sujet particulier à l'ordre du jour de la 
rencontre à venir, vous pouvez commenter la page préparatoire au lien :

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lyon/Reunion_08_mars_2016

Venez nombreux !







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Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Per discussione john whelan

Note to James, I seem to recall Stats Canada addresses which have been
imported recently were done through the open data portal Gov Canada.
Perhaps Ottawa might like to release the GTFS data through there?
Especially since it was given to Google without strings I understand.

Cheerio John

On 1 March 2016 at 09:02, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:

> On 2016-03-01 07:19 AM, john whelan wrote:
> >
> > My understanding of the terms and conditions for uploading data is you
> > have to give permission for OSM to change the license from ODBl.
>
> Isn't it more that the OSMF reserves the right to change the licence?
> Ottawa's share-alike terms are incompatible with ODbL's share-alike
> terms, so it has to go.
>
> Not sure about what Paul meant by redacted vs deleted. Either way, I've
> never rolled a changeset back, and this wouldn't be a good first one for
> me to try.
>
> cheers,
>  Stewart
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Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione Tobias Knerr

Am 01.03.2016 10:59, schrieb Markus:
> Was verwendest Du? wieso?

Meine bevorzugte Lizenz, gerade für kleinere Sachen, ist die CC0. Ich
bin generell ein Fan der "ganz freien" Lizenzen, weil ich möchte, dass
möglichst viele andere Entwickler meine Software als Grundlage nutzen
können und sich keinen großen Gedanken über rechtliche Fragen machen müssen.

Eine Ausnahme ist hier OSM2World, dort verwende ich die LGPL.

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping Party: infrastructure for the homeless

2016-03-01 Per discussione Ruben Maes

Tuesday 01 March 2016 22:11:06, Julien Fastré:
> But I
> do not know how to map "the last Saturday of the month"...

That would be "Sa[-1]":
Sa[1] is the first Saturday, Sa[2] the second, etc.
Similarly, Sa[-1] is the last Saturday, Sa[-2] the one before, etc.

You can use [1] to evaluate your value. The syntax is explained at [2], albeit 
not very clearly.

[1] http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours

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Re: [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Paul Berry

Rob,

Apologies, I spoke too soon. Having scrolled down I found the project and
I'm already 5 changesets in.

Not sure about what to put as the source tag so pasting in the EduBase2
url. If there is a convention on this, please advise so I can use this
going forward.

Thinking aloud for future events like this, if someone could rig up a
realtime changesets map that would make it even more enjoyable. In the
meantime, http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=OSMschool

Regards,
*Paul*

On 1 March 2016 at 22:06, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> No, still lots to do Paul.
>
> You may need to click "Select a different challenge" and scroll down to UK
> Schools.
>
> Regards,
> *Rob*
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[Talk-it] Tag x aereo dismesso

2016-03-01 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni

Un aereo md80 che giace abandoned da alcuni anni su una taxiway cieca.
Non é historic, tantomeno tourist attraction...

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Re: [Talk-GB] This evening: Night school

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

Up to 320 edits on schools today :-) Which is getting close to the daily
record of 397 for the quarterly project (way back in January).

We're also just 3 edits away from a "create" record - Harry's tool measures
creations and modifications.

Great mapping effort this evening. Thanks for all the help.

Best regards,
*Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

No, still lots to do Paul.

You may need to click "Select a different challenge" and scroll down to UK
Schools.

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to extract the 12M maritime borders using osmosis?

2016-03-01 Per discussione Michał Brzozowski

These nodes seem to be admin centres of countries. They are part of
the boundary relations.
Try not to reject relations.

Michał

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Egil Möller  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm working for a project that aims to measure IUU (illegal, unregulated and
> unregistered) fishing (globalfishingwatch.org). For this I'd like to be able
> to classify vessel track points as withing various areas, e.g. MPAs,
> economic zones and national waters, of which OSM contains the last one.
>
> I'm trying to extract this dataset and import it into a PostGIS instance for
> further processing. According to
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dmaritime#Territorial_sea_.2812.C2.A0nm_zone.29
> the borders should have these attributes
>
> boundary=administrative since so many had a problem with grouping it
> together with maritime borders
> maritime=yes to state that this is a maritime border, so it can be rendered
> correctly/different from land borders
> admin_level=2 since it is a national boundary
> border_type=territorial to distinguish it from borders on land
>
> I tried extracting these borders using
>
> osmosis/bin/osmosis -v \
>   --read-pbf-fast file=planet-latest.osm.pbf \
>   --tf reject-relations \
>   --tf reject-nodes \
>   --tf accept-ways boundary=administrative maritime=yes admin_level=2
> border_type=territorial \
>   --write-xml file=12M.osm
>
> I then imported this into PostGIS using
>
> osmosis/bin/osmosis -v --read-xml file=12M.osm.bz2 --write-pgsimp-dump
> directory=12M
>
> and the SQL script osmosis/script/pgsimple_load_0.6.sql.
>
> Now to the problem:
>
> I see a bunch of nodes all over the place, some even inland:
> http://cdb.io/1QjDRGN
> I see only 40 ways with nodes, all somewhere on the border of Iran:
> http://cdb.io/1QjE2Sq
>
>
> I tried the following query to find the number of ways with nodes:
>
> select count(*) from (select ways.id, st_makeline(nodes.geom) line from
> ways, way_nodes wn,nodes where wn.way_id = ways.id and wn.node_id = nodes.id
> group by ways.id) a where line is not null;
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Egil
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Re: [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Paul Berry

Just connected to the MapRoulette link from earlier to be greeted with:

*"The challenge you were working on is all done. Thanks for helping out!"*

Is everything mapped then? ;)

Regards,
*Paul*


On 1 March 2016 at 18:07, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> You're best to copy the postcode/name from maproulette in to the edubase
> search:
>
> http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/home.xhtml
>
> I agree that an easier tool for these sort of "manual imports with
> validation" would be good but lets make the most of what we have.
>
> *Rob*
>
> On 1 March 2016 at 17:22, Ian Caldwell 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a quick way to get from the maproulette to the EduBase?
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On 1 March 2016 at 12:36, Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn
>>> for setting this up.
>>>
>>> We’re live:
>>> http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb
>>>
>>> It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales
>>> and NI.
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> * Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where
>>> the point shows).
>>> * ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
>>> tags.
>>>
>>> Happy mapping,
>>> Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Using SPW PICC layer in josm

2016-03-01 Per discussione Erik B


Hello,

I understand that there is no clear agreement to use PICC for OSM but it 
is said and written by different persons from the government that there 
is nothing against the use of those data for OSM and that we don't risk 
that data have to be deleted in the future.
It means that besides SPW aerial imagery also the data on the PICC map 
may be used. Does this include the dimensions of the buildings, the 
house numbers, the names of the streets and the names of rivers, woods, 
farms and so on?


Erik

Op 29-02-16 om 17:38 schreef Julien Fastré:

Bonjour,

On n'est jamais parvenu à obtenir une réponse claire de la part du 
SPW. Mais je confirme ce qu'écrit André Pirard: pour eux, recopier nos 
données n'est pas les utiliser => donc on pourrait tracer à partir du 
PICC comme on le fait à partir de Bing!, selon eux. Le mieux (ou le 
pire) c'est qu'ils ont rédigé leur nouvelle licence en partie pour 
permettre à OSM d'utiliser ces données (il y a eu vraiment un travail 
de ce côté), mais qu'elle reste floue pour qu'on le fasse.


Maintenant, s'ils se plaignent, je n'ai que des conversations 
téléphoniques, des réunions et des échanges de courriels pour défendre 
la personne qui serait mise en cause.


En Wallonie, on reste dans le domaine du compromis...

Julien

Le 28/02/16 11:28, Jo a écrit :

Non

So, unless someone claims i'm wrong, we should not use this at all, if
you do... and a claim is made, that data will be removed from OSM by
analysing the user names involved and their changesets.

Il ne faut surtout pas l'utiliser. Tu risques d'avoir toutes tes 
contributions relatées expulsées de la base de données OSM.


Polyglot

2016-02-28 10:53 GMT+01:00 lionel bulpa >:


Bonjour,

J'ai lu vos réponses mais je n'ai pas réussi à en tirer une
conclusion claire (je dois traduire le texte :P ) Pouvons-nous
utiliser les données PICC?

Merci

Lionel


Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:47:57 +0100
From: thib@gmail.com 
To: talk-be@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Using SPW PICC layer in josm


Hi,

Thanks all for your answers.

See you in Brussels for the State Of The Map 2016 !  :-)
Cheers

Thibaut


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Thib > wrote:

Hi,

SPW PICC tiles layer is available in JOSM for mapping Belgian
Southern area but I can't find enough information about the
license terms.

Is it allowed to :
- copy (doing"calc") buildings and other objects boundaries
(as we do with bing tiles)
- get address house numbers

I've found some old threads talking about that interesting
source but no real answer...

If someone has any information about it, It would be very useful.

Thanks in advance.
Regards,

Thib



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Re: [Talk-cz] Vyuziti zeleznice main/branch na trati 173 - Beroun - Rudna - Praha-Smichov

2016-03-01 Per discussione Pavel Bokr

No tak pokud bych se mel ridit predevsim mistni znalosti a intenzitou provozu a 
zarazeni celostatni/regionalni bych bral jako orientacni pak bych v tomto 
pripade (i z hlediska uzivatelu mapy - tedy siroke verejnosti) uprednostnil 
branch (tedy jako lokalku). Tak by to odpovidalo soucasnemu vyuziti trate, (bez 
ohledu na to proc si tuto “lokalku” stat drzi v siti celostatnich drah – treba 
ma stat nejakou “strategii”, ale fakticky se to uziva jako lokalka).

Chtelo by se to tedy nejak domluvit co tedy uprednostnovat tam kde je 
pochybnost – aktualni zpusob vyuziti nebo oficialni zarazeni (pro nas neni 
problem opakovane predelavat nejakou trat na main/branch podle aktualniho 
vyuziti – narozdil od statu jak si zaradi trat protoze to ma jiste dalekosahle 
dusledky a predpokladam ze stat ma nejakou strategii a taky to narozdil od 
upravy v OSM vyzaduje to nejaky casovy a administrativni proces).

Jako nezeleznicar bych se v tomto pripade priklonil v OSM podle aktualniho 
vyuziti, ale netrvam na tom (akorat pokud bych s tim u sebe nejak pracoval tak 
bych si z toho tu branch stejne udelal u sebe).



Pro ty kdo neznaji: jednokolejka, jen osobni vlaky (rychliky a vlaky vyssi 
kvality jen mimoradny odklon), jezdi tam pokud vim regionovy; nizsi tratove 
rychlosti (v posledni dobe ale probehla rekonstrukce). Ja kdyz jsem tim obcas 
jel tak to jeste jezdil jeden motorvy vuz rady 810, do Berouna s tim jezdilo 
jen par lidi (byvali jsme tam tak dva nebo tri). Aktualni JR:
http://www.cd.cz/cs/vnitrostatni-cestovani/jizdni-rad/tratove-jizdni-rady/files/cz-k173-160316-01.pdf


PB


From: Michal Pustějovský 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:46 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Subject: Re: [Talk-cz]Vyuziti zeleznice main/branch na trati 173 - Beroun - 
Rudna - Praha-Smichov

Já se při mapování železniční sítě na Moravě řídil především místní znalostí a 
intenzitou provozu. Rozdělení dle celostátní/regionální  jsem bral v úvahu 
spíše jako orientační.

Michal


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Tomáš Tichý 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 29. 2. 2016 18:47:10
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Vyuziti zeleznice main/branch na trati 173 - Beroun - 
Rudna - Praha-Smichov



  Podle Prohlášení o dráze [1] se jedná o dráhu celostátní, takže bych main 
ponechal (IMHO je lokálka jak vyšitá, ale rozlišení regionální / celostátní je 
jediné objektivní vodítko, podle kterého to můžeme rozlišit). 

  =TT=

  [1] http://www.szdc.cz/soubory/prohlaseni-o-draze/2016/prohlaseni-2016.pdf, 
str 92


  Dne 29. února 2016 11:35 Pavel Bokr  napsal(a):

Predpokladam ze v OSM jsou zeleznicni nadsenci tak verene napisi, ze trochu 
uvazuji o zmene z hlavni trati (usage=main) na vedlesji (usage=branch) u trati 
c 173:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/48847#map=12/50.0122/14.2599=T


Charakteristika skutecneho vyuziti a provedeni trate se blizi usage=branch 
(slaby provoz – osobni vlaky, rychliky jen pri mimoradnostech, jednokolejka, 
nizke tratove rychlosti, bez elektrifikace).


Koukam ale ze v CR existuji celostatni drahy a regionalni drahy a nevim 
jestli se v OSM neridime podle tohoto.  Dle wikipedie je to regionalni draha 
[1] (pak by nebylo o cem diskutovat a ani bych to sem asi nepsal), ale kdyz 
jsem si to chtel overit tak uz na dalsi strance wikipedie [2] i v oficialnich 
zdrojich [3] puvodni zarazeni trate 173 do regionalnich bylo pro jinou trat 
(Rokycany – Nezvestice) o te z Berouna se nepise nic, pak jsem nasel nejakou 
mapku z roku 2010 [4], ve ktere se uvadi ze, je tato trat navrzena k prerazeni 
do regionalnich, ale jestli to bylo provedeno nevim.

Neznam tedy soucasny oficialni zarazeni drahy – pokud by se main/branch 
podle tohoto zarazeni delalo (podle skutecneho charakteru a vyuziti to ale 
podle me tihne vice k usage=branch), ale pro generovani mapy pro cestujici mi 
prijde trochu zavadejici ze tato skutecnym charakterem lokalni trat je na 
stejne urovni jako hlavni zeleznicni koridor Praha – Plzen a dale


Je mozne zkusit tuto trat zmenit na usage=branch nebo ma zustat main?

Pavel Bokr

[1] 
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_%C5%BEelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%ADch_trat%C3%AD_v_%C4%8Cesku#.C5.98ada_170
[2] 
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_region%C3%A1ln%C3%ADch_drah_v_%C4%8Cesku
[3] 
http://kormoran.vlada.cz/usneseni/usneseni_webtest.nsf/WebGovRes/97531C8254B32166C12571B6006B7243?OpenDocument
[4] 
http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/B5D07009-9EA8-4A02-BCD4-1101CBC5C801/0/mapakatsite.bmp

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping Party: infrastructure for the homeless

2016-03-01 Per discussione Julien Fastré

Hi,

We mapped some "marchés gratuits" with this tag. The pitch of those
"marchés gratuits" : you can leave in a box items you do not need, and
other people might pick them.

There is a proposed feature for this :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse

Example : http://1000bxlentransition.be/marche-gratuit/

Problem : some of them are permanent, some are only once/month (and I
didn't know it on Saturday - we should have prepared this.

What we could do :

- relaunch procedure for this tag proposal ;
- add some "opening hours" to explain when the market take place. But I
do not know how to map "the last Saturday of the month"...

Julien

Le 01/03/16 05:23, Marc Gemis a écrit :
> I noticed that you used amenity=resuse. According to taginfo [1], it
> is now used 19 times, most of them in Brussels. Would you mind
> documenting it on the wiki and explaining the meaning of this tag ?
> Otherwise part of your work might be hard to understand for data
> consumers.
> 
> regards
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=reuse
> 
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Julien Fastré  wrote:
>> +1 :
>>
>> - this was an interesting meeting : a lot of new contributors, very
>> interested in OSM and the topic they were handling.
>> - we should have prepared the data and mapping before. A lot of things
>> are missing in term of existing tag and I see an opportunity to make our
>> databaser more rich ;
>> - Dewey is interested in OSM and will consider adapting their categories
>> to our tagging system; I think we have a lot of gain in helping them.
>>
>> This is a map of the most thing that were mapped since saturday morning
>> : [1], and the overpass query is there :
>> https://gist.github.com/julienfastre/c538a3983c6f8e133906 /!\ but it may
>> happen that some things are missing !!! /!\
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/map.html?Q=%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%5Btimeout%3A50%5D%3B%0A%2F%2F%20fetch%20area%20%E2%80%9CBelgium%E2%80%9D%20to%20search%20in%0Aarea(3602404020)-%3E.searchArea%3B%0A%2F%2F%20gather%20results%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%3A%20%E2%80%9Cdrinking%20water%E2%80%9D%0A%20%20node%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22drinking_water%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20way%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22drinking_water%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A)-%3E.d%3B%0A%0A%2F%2F%20filter%20since%2010%20UTC%0A(%0Anode.d(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0Away.d(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A)%20-%3E.drinking%3B%0A%0A%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%3A%20%E2%80%9Csocial%20facility%E2%80%9D%0A%20%20node%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22social_facility%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20way%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22social_facility%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A)-%3E.s%3B%0A%0A%2F%2F%20filter%20modified%20since%2010%20UTC%0A(%0A%20%20node.s(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0Awa
y.s(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A%20%20)-%3E.social%3B%0A%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%3A%20%E2%80%9Camenity%20%3D%20reuse%E2%80%9D%0A%20%20node%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22reuse%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20way%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22reuse%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A)-%3E.r%3B%0A%0A%2F%2F%20filter%20modified%20since%2010%20UTC%0A(%0A%20%20node.r(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A%20%20way.r(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A%20%20)-%3E.reuse%3B%0A%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%20second%20hand%20shops%0A%20%20%20%20node%5B%22second_hand%22~%22yes%7Conly%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20%09way%5B%22second_hand%22~%22yes%7Conly%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20)-%3E.m%3B%0A%0A(%0A%20%20node.m(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A%20%20way.m(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A%20%20)-%3E.shops%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%20(%20node.social%3B%20way.social%3B%20node.drinking%3B%20way.drinking%3B%2
0node.reuse%3B%20way.reuse%3B%20way.shops%3B%20node.shops%3B)%3B%20%20%20%20%0A%0A%2F%2F%20print%20results%0Aout%20body%3B%0A%3E%3B%0Aout%20skel%20qt%3B
>>
>> Le 28/02/16 09:16, Jo a écrit :
>>> I think the mapping party yesterday was quite a success. Still it could 
>>> have been better, if we had been able to preview and preprocess the data. I 
>>> added links to the Google Spreadsheet that open JOSM in the right spot now, 
>>> but it's a bit "after the fact" > >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S8-iYBLkmckprwQzetjzFn98I9ai1v2GZAYZLtHTbA4/edit#gid=1796817314
 I had to use some 'magic' regular expressions incantations to
>> separate French from Dutch descriptions and to attempt to split the
>> addresses. They don't all follow the same structure, so this didn't work
>> very well. If we do this again, it would be better to have separate
>> columns for each potential tag we may want to use. > > Unfortunately I
>> was not able to answer most of the questions I got. It's a difficult
>> theme to start with and I feel our tagging is lacking a bit once you
>> want to go into

[Talk-it] Mappare reperti bellici

2016-03-01 Per discussione Dario Crespi

Ciao, oggi mi sono messo a sistemare un po' di strade e recinzioni intorno
a Malpensa e mio fratello mi ha detto che lì c'è una sorta di museo
all'aperto che comprende diversi manufatti bellici e ordigni (resi innocui)
risalenti alla ww2. Guardando questo sito potete capire meglio di cosa
parlo: http://www.fmboschetto.it/Lonate_Pozzolo/viadiGaggio.htm

Ora la domanda: esistono dei tag per mappare queste cose? Dalle bombe ai
paraschegge alle vecchie piste di raccordo per gli aerei che oggi sono
semplici strade in mezzo al bosco.

Se esistono, non sarebbe male organizzare un piccolo evento di mappatura di
quell'area (questa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.5965/8.7274).

Dario
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Need help for a mapathon campus géo - 16th April 2016

2016-03-01 Per discussione joost schouppe

Yes, it might be worth considering. I'm hoping we can find someone to speak
at all the different locations. It would be nice to have Pete Masters talk
to us through digital channels though.
I don't think a remote presentation would have quite the same impact as a
local one. But it might be useful to have an open line with all the other
events.Though in practice maybe IRC will work better - and not be as
sensitive to bandwidth issues.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Need help for a mapathon campus géo - 16th April 2016

2016-03-01 Per discussione Jo

I'm wondering if it would make sense to set up a video link between all
these locations. At KU Leuven we use Lync (Skype for Business) for this,
it's easy to set up a conference call with that. I'm not entirely sure
about the usefulness though. Except if speakers who want to address
everyone can obviously only be at one of the locations.

Jo

2016-03-01 21:11 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe :

> Hi,
>
> We have a nice conversation with them going now *. This is going to be
> pretty big: six universities in the three regions, all working on
> OpenStreetMap. We might have some press attention, and it's a great
> opportunity to grow our community in five different cities.
>
> We're going to need a lot of volunteers: there are six events, all at the
> same time, and there should be at least one mapper at every event.
> If you want to help out, please register here:
>
> ULB: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229258344/
> VUB: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229258398/
> KUL: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260162/
> UGent: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260255/
> UNamur: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260291/
> ULG: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260644/
>
>
> In the ideal case, that mapper is willing to give an introduction about
> OpenStreetMap, the Missing Maps and get people started mapping in iD. You
> do not have to be an expert, but of course it would be easy if you have a
> bit of African mapping experience. You can make your own presentation if
> you want to, but we're co-creating all the material you need.
> If you don't like to do presentations, maybe you can just help new
> mappers, stuck when choosing between tertiary road and track.
>
> Or you could help in the preparation of the documentation and
> presentations. Here's an overview of the tasks, includes some translation
> work.
> https://hackpad.com/Missing-Maps-National-April-16th-6yr1qJEQoqq
> Feel free to edit as you please.
>
> Joost
>
> * give me a shout if you want in on the whole conversation; as we replied
> and replied some CC's got lostà.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Need help for a mapathon campus géo - 16th April 2016

2016-03-01 Per discussione joost schouppe

Hi,

We have a nice conversation with them going now *. This is going to be
pretty big: six universities in the three regions, all working on
OpenStreetMap. We might have some press attention, and it's a great
opportunity to grow our community in five different cities.

We're going to need a lot of volunteers: there are six events, all at the
same time, and there should be at least one mapper at every event.
If you want to help out, please register here:

ULB: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229258344/
VUB: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229258398/
KUL: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260162/
UGent: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260255/
UNamur: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260291/
ULG: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/229260644/


In the ideal case, that mapper is willing to give an introduction about
OpenStreetMap, the Missing Maps and get people started mapping in iD. You
do not have to be an expert, but of course it would be easy if you have a
bit of African mapping experience. You can make your own presentation if
you want to, but we're co-creating all the material you need.
If you don't like to do presentations, maybe you can just help new mappers,
stuck when choosing between tertiary road and track.

Or you could help in the preparation of the documentation and
presentations. Here's an overview of the tasks, includes some translation
work.
https://hackpad.com/Missing-Maps-National-April-16th-6yr1qJEQoqq
Feel free to edit as you please.

Joost

* give me a shout if you want in on the whole conversation; as we replied
and replied some CC's got lostà.
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Re: [Talk-it] utente modifica i value wiki italiani in quelli inglesi

2016-03-01 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer



sent from a phone

> Am 01.03.2016 um 19:52 schrieb Aury88 :
> 
> comunque sia, chiamatelo anche stupido patriotismo,ma a me il link alla wiki
> inglese stona xD 
> avrei preferito la pagina italiana sia perchè l'oggetto è in Italia, sia
> perchè è la più aggiornata e di gran lunga completa.
> pazienza, me ne farò una ragione :P


per me avresti benissimo potuto ricambiare la pagina in quella italiana, già 
che dovevi mettere mani perché quella inglese era un redirect, e soprattutto 
perché inizialmente era italiano. Alla fine non importa molto per il tagging 
quale lingua dispone di un articolo più lungo o completo, perché l'idea è che 
il programma con il quale userai i dati ti manda alla pagina italiana (=tua 
lingua, tramite interlanguage link) a prescindere del tag usato in OSM

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-GB] This evening: Night school

2016-03-01 Per discussione Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)

FYI, I've just updated my comparison tool at
http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/schools/progress/ again.

We now have matches to 75% of the schools in the official data.
(Though of course not all of these will be correct.)

Keep up the good work everyone,

Robert.

On 1 March 2016 at 18:08, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As a reminder there is an online mapathon to map schools this evening.
> Please help if you have some time :-)
>
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/welcome-to-night-school-1st-march.html

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Re: [Talk-GB] This evening: Night school

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

I'm following the maproulette tasks which means lots of Wales. It's easy to
get sidetracked as the data is often poor here!

Maybe a focus for a future quarter...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:11 Brian Prangle,  wrote:

> Hi Rob et al
>
> I'm currently adding schools in LE postcode
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> On 1 March 2016 at 18:08, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As a reminder there is an online mapathon to map schools this evening.
>> Please help if you have some time :-)
>>
>> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/welcome-to-night-school-1st-march.html
>>
>> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] This evening: Night school

2016-03-01 Per discussione Brian Prangle

Hi Rob et al

I'm currently adding schools in LE postcode

Regards

Brian

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> Hi all,
>
> As a reminder there is an online mapathon to map schools this evening.
> Please help if you have some time :-)
>
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/welcome-to-night-school-1st-march.html
>
> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Jan Martinec

Přesnost závisí na HW v zařízení - tablety obecně bývají méně přesné, se
Samsungem S5 jsem v otevřené krajině  s přesností +-1m,  ve městě +-5m (se
starou Xperií jsem byl rád za +-10m)
Dne 1. 3. 2016 19:06 napsal uživatel "Marek Janata" :

> já narazil na problém s přesností navigace v tabletu / mobilu - proti
> staré 60CSx od garmina byly rozdíly dost velké
>
>
> út 1. 3. 2016 v 16:00 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy 
> napsal:
>
>> Dne 1.3.2016 v 15:41 Petr Holub napsal(a):
>> >  Osmtracker
>>
>> +1
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker=cs
>>
>> Umi vsechno co jsi jmenoval, krome "vice mapovych podkladu" - umi
>> vykreslovat cestu jenom nad OSM.
>> Ale export do osm.org je mega jednoduchy - dve kliknuti a hotovo.
>>
>> Mirek
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Re: [Talk-it] utente modifica i value wiki italiani in quelli inglesi

2016-03-01 Per discussione Aury88

dieterdreist wrote
> io ci aggiungerei un tag wikidata, e volendo un official_name o alt_name
> per Vincenzo Florio..

sì, con il mio ultimo edit, oltre a correggere il value del tag wiki (adesso
è en:Vincenzo Florio Airport Trapani–Birgi), ho aggiunto quelli e pochi
altri dati...
comunque sia, chiamatelo anche stupido patriotismo,ma a me il link alla wiki
inglese stona xD 
avrei preferito la pagina italiana sia perchè l'oggetto è in Italia, sia
perchè è la più aggiornata e di gran lunga completa.
pazienza, me ne farò una ragione :P



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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Jan Martinec

Ahoj,

na Androidu nedám dopustit na Locus Pro (free verze je s reklamou), ktery
uz pouzivam dlouha leta. Je to appka mnoha možností:  Záznam trasy do GPX
umí, včetně možností  pojmenovaných waypointů,  fotek a obecně příloh k
waypointům, automatický upload dokončené trasy na Dropbox/GDrive/etc,
dlaždicové/WMS/offline dlaždice/offline vektorové mapy (MapsForge), možnost
mapu/waypointy i naklikat ručně, plnohodnotná tvorba a editace stop, grafy
k záznamům  (rychlost/čas etc), import/export GPX/KML/atd., integrace s
jinymi mapovymi aplikacemi (ČÚZK info, Vespucci, GStreetView),
online/offline routing (BRouter), stínování mapy  a vyskova mapa přes SRTM,
OSM Notes, a zajisté ještě X dalších věcí, které nevyužívám.

Co neumí : Google mapy (jen jako integraci s appkou), ortofoto jen ČÚZK.

Export GPX rovnou do OSM jsem nehledal - třeba  to umí, nevím.

HPM
Dne 1. 3. 2016 15:32 napsal uživatel "Petr Vozdecký" :

> Ahoj,
>
> chtěl bych se Vás zeptat na Vaše názory, zkušenosti či doporučení stran
> (nejen Android) aplikace pro smartphones vhodné k pořizování dat v terénu.
>
> Do současnosti jsem používal app Moje trasy od Google, ale výrobce oznámil
> ukončení provozu appky tuším k 1.4.2016
>
> Co všechno od jednoduché aplikace čekám? Minimálně to, abych mohl zapnout
> záznam trasy (výhodou je vykreslování do současné mapy) a mohl přidávat a
> pojmenovávat nějaké waypointy. Toto vše pak moci vyexportovat jako GPX pro
> další import do OSM.org. Zmíněná app toto umí (vč. exportu do GPX),
> následný import do OSM jsem pak zvládl během minuty i za chůze a než jsem
> došel domů, měl jsem připravenou stopu k editaci...
>
> Co všechno bych si představoval, že by to mohlo umět? Více mapových
> podkladů, primárně OSM (app Moje trasy pracují jen s google, což je např. v
> lese jen velký zelený flek a s ortofoto). Super by byl přímý export do
> OSM.org, před exportem možnost poeditovat souřadnice waypointů např.
> porovnáním vůči ortofotomapě. Možnost vložení waypointu nejen způsobem
> "tady kde stojím" ale i přidáním přes mapu. Při importu do OSM zadat
> položky Popis, Štítky, Viditelnost...
>
> Díky za reakce
>
> vop
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Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione markus schnalke

[2016-03-01 10:59] Markus 
> 
> 1. ganz frei
> 2. mit Namensnennung (Autor muss immer genannt werden)
> 3. Copyleft (eigene Ergänzungen
>müssen unter gleicher Lizenz veröffentlicht werden)

Die drei Gruppen von Lizenzen hast du gut erkannt.


> Beispiele für:
> 1: MIT, CC0, BSD-2

MIT (aka. Expat) und BSD-2 (entspricht ISC) gehoeren zur Gruppe 2!

WTFPL gehoert noch zur Gruppe 1. (Im OSM-Umfeld ist die praesent.)

> 2: BSD-3
> 3: GPL-2, GPL-3
> (vermutlich gibt es noch viel mehr und der Teufel steckt im Detail)


> MIT: Lua, Debian

Debian steht nicht unter einer einzigen Lizenz. Sowohl die
Software-Pakete, die es ausliefert als auch die Debian-Software
selbst (APT, dpkg, etc) stehen unter unterschiedlichen Lizenzen.


Meine Emfehlung ist:

1) Wenn du Software in einem bestimmten Umfeld programmierst,
dann verwende die Lizenz, die in dem Umfeld vorherrschend ist.

2) Sonst, ueberlege fuer dich, welche Gruppe von Lizenz (public
domain, Namensnennung, Copyleft) deinen Ansichten am ehesten
entspricht und verwende die verbreitetste Lizenz dieser Gruppe.


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Re: [Talk-cl] Consulta fiscalías

2016-03-01 Per discussione Julio Costa Zambelli

Hola Cristián,

Me parece que la mejor combinación, de acuerdo con la propuesta en
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic, sería
algo como building=civic + civic=judicial. Y se podría complementar con un
landuse=judicial de ser necesario.

Saludos,

Julio Costa Zambelli
Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile

julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl

http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
Cel: +56(9)89981083

2016-03-01 10:07 GMT-03:00 Cristián Serpell :

> Hola a todos,
>
> Tengo una duda que he visto ya se ha debatido antes aquí
> .
> Se terminó de construir la nueva fiscalía en Quilpué, y al querer agregarla
> a OSM, descubrí que no hay consenso de cómo etiquetarla.
>
> He visto las siguientes etiquetas usadas por ahí:
>
> - amenity=courthouse  (en especial los juzgados)
> - building=civic
> - building=public
> - office=government
>
> ¿Cuál sería la recomendación para estos casos?
>
> Gracias y suerte!
> Cristián
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[Talk-GB] This evening: Night school

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

Hi all,

As a reminder there is an online mapathon to map schools this evening.
Please help if you have some time :-)

http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/welcome-to-night-school-1st-march.html

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

You're best to copy the postcode/name from maproulette in to the edubase
search:

http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/home.xhtml

I agree that an easier tool for these sort of "manual imports with
validation" would be good but lets make the most of what we have.

*Rob*

On 1 March 2016 at 17:22, Ian Caldwell 
wrote:

> Is there a quick way to get from the maproulette to the EduBase?
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 1 March 2016 at 12:36, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
>> setting this up.
>>
>> We’re live:
>> http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb
>>
>> It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales
>> and NI.
>>
>> Notes:
>> * Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where
>> the point shows).
>> * ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
>> tags.
>>
>> Happy mapping,
>> Rob
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2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

You're best to copy the postcode/name from maproulette in to the edubase
search:

http://www.education.gov.uk/edubase/home.xhtml

I agree that an easier tool for these sort of "manual imports with
validation" would be good but lets make the most of what we have.

*Rob*

On 1 March 2016 at 17:22, Ian Caldwell 
wrote:

> Is there a quick way to get from the maproulette to the EduBase?
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 1 March 2016 at 12:36, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
>> setting this up.
>>
>> We’re live:
>> http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb
>>
>> It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales
>> and NI.
>>
>> Notes:
>> * Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where
>> the point shows).
>> * ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
>> tags.
>>
>> Happy mapping,
>> Rob
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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Marek Janata

já narazil na problém s přesností navigace v tabletu / mobilu - proti staré
60CSx od garmina byly rozdíly dost velké


út 1. 3. 2016 v 16:00 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy  napsal:

> Dne 1.3.2016 v 15:41 Petr Holub napsal(a):
> >  Osmtracker
>
> +1
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker=cs
>
> Umi vsechno co jsi jmenoval, krome "vice mapovych podkladu" - umi
> vykreslovat cestu jenom nad OSM.
> Ale export do osm.org je mega jednoduchy - dve kliknuti a hotovo.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Strategy for Naming Parts of a Large Park

2016-03-01 Per discussione Phil! Gold

* Elliott Plack  [2016-03-01 14:49 +]:
> [Patapsco Valley State Park] consists of several nine or so areas (2)
> spread out over 30 miles of the Patapsco River valley. Some of the parts
> are contiguous, others not.

The sub-areas also do not have (or do not always have) well-defined
boundaries.  The park itself is well-defined (and already has a
multipolygon border), but most of the sub-areas would either be nodes or
areas whose edges aren't really authoritative.

At the moment, there's a single multipolygon for the entire state park,
tagged leisure=park and boundary=protected_area, protect_class=5.  The
individual areas are generally nodes tagged leisure=park with names like
"Patapsco Valley State Park - McKeldin Area".  The whole park-in-a-park
thing feels a little off to me, but it does get the names rendered on the
default map.  :-/

(Elliott knows all this, but I thought it might be useful information for
the discussion.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Ian Caldwell

Is there a quick way to get from the maproulette to the EduBase?


Ian

On 1 March 2016 at 12:36, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
> setting this up.
>
> We’re live:
> http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb
>
> It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales and
> NI.
>
> Notes:
> * Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where
> the point shows).
> * ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
> tags.
>
> Happy mapping,
> Rob
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Ian Caldwell

Is there a quick way to get from the maproulette to the EduBase?


Ian

On 1 March 2016 at 12:36, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
> setting this up.
>
> We’re live:
> http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb
>
> It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales and
> NI.
>
> Notes:
> * Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where
> the point shows).
> * ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
> tags.
>
> Happy mapping,
> Rob
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Re: [Talk-cz] Vyuziti zeleznice main/branch na trati 173 - Beroun - Rudna - Praha-Smichov

2016-03-01 Per discussione Michal Pustějovský

Já se při mapování železniční sítě na Moravě řídil především místní znalostí
a intenzitou provozu. Rozdělení dle celostátní/regionální  jsem bral v úvahu
spíše jako orientační.

Michal


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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 29. 2. 2016 18:47:10
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Vyuziti zeleznice main/branch na trati 173 - Beroun -
Rudna - Praha-Smichov

"

Podle Prohlášení o dráze [1] se jedná o dráhu celostátní, takže bych main 
ponechal (IMHO je lokálka jak vyšitá, ale rozlišení regionální / celostátní 
je jediné objektivní vodítko, podle kterého to můžeme rozlišit).



=TT=




[1] http://www.szdc.cz/soubory/prohlaseni-o-draze/2016/prohlaseni-2016.pdf
(http://www.szdc.cz/soubory/prohlaseni-o-draze/2016/prohlaseni-2016.pdf), 
str 92





Dne 29. února 2016 11:35 Pavel Bokr  napsal(a):
" 



Predpokladam ze v OSM jsou zeleznicni nadsenci tak verene napisi, ze trochu 
uvazuji o zmene z hlavni trati (usage=main) na vedlesji (usage=branch) u 
trati c 173:

 
 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/48847#map=12/50.0122/14.2599=T
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/48847#map=12/50.0122/14.2599=T)

 
 
 
 
Charakteristika skutecneho vyuziti a provedeni trate se blizi usage=branch 
(slaby provoz – osobni vlaky, rychliky jen pri mimoradnostech, jednokolejka,
nizke tratove rychlosti, bez elektrifikace).

 
 
 
 
Koukam ale ze v CR existuji celostatni drahy a regionalni drahy a nevim 
jestli se v OSM neridime podle tohoto.  Dle wikipedie je to regionalni draha
[1] (pak by nebylo o cem diskutovat a ani bych to sem asi nepsal), ale kdyz 
jsem si to chtel overit tak uz na dalsi strance wikipedie [2] i v 
oficialnich zdrojich [3] puvodni zarazeni trate 173 do regionalnich bylo pro
jinou trat (Rokycany – Nezvestice) o te z Berouna se nepise nic, pak jsem 
nasel nejakou mapku z roku 2010 [4], ve ktere se uvadi ze, je tato trat 
navrzena k prerazeni do regionalnich, ale jestli to bylo provedeno nevim.

 
 
Neznam tedy soucasny oficialni zarazeni drahy – pokud by se main/branch 
podle tohoto zarazeni delalo (podle skutecneho charakteru a vyuziti to ale 
podle me tihne vice k usage=branch), ale pro generovani mapy pro cestujici 
mi prijde trochu zavadejici ze tato skutecnym charakterem lokalni trat je na
stejne urovni jako hlavni zeleznicni koridor Praha – Plzen a dale

 
 
 
 
Je mozne zkusit tuto trat zmenit na usage=branch nebo ma zustat main?

 
 
Pavel Bokr

 
 
[1] https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_%C5%BEelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%ADch_trat%C
3%AD_v_%C4%8Cesku#.C5.98ada_170
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_%C5%BEelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%ADch_trat%C3%AD_v_%C4%8Cesku#.C5.98ada_170)

[2] https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_region%C3%A1ln%C3%ADch_drah_v_%C4%8
Cesku
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_region%C3%A1ln%C3%ADch_drah_v_%C4%8Cesku)

[3] http://kormoran.vlada.cz/usneseni/usneseni_webtest.nsf/WebGovRes/97531C
8254B32166C12571B6006B7243?OpenDocument
(http://kormoran.vlada.cz/usneseni/usneseni_webtest.nsf/WebGovRes/97531C8254B32166C12571B6006B7243?OpenDocument)

[4] http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/B5D07009-9EA8-4A02-BCD4-1101CBC5C801/0/
mapakatsite.bmp
(http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/B5D07009-9EA8-4A02-BCD4-1101CBC5C801/0/mapakatsite.bmp)




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Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole

Also neben der GPL-irgendwas ist Apache 2.0 definitiv eine der
populärsten SW Lizenzen.

Am 01.03.2016 um 10:59 schrieb Markus:
> Liebe Entwickler,
>
> Welche Lizenz verwendet Ihr für Eure Programme/Code?
>
> Es scheint folgende Unterschiede für freie Lizenzen zu geben:
>
> 1. ganz frei
> 2. mit Namensnennung (Autor muss immer genannt werden)
> 3. Copyleft (eigene Ergänzungen
>müssen unter gleicher Lizenz veröffentlicht werden)
>
> Beispiele für:
> 1: MIT, CC0, BSD-2
> 2: BSD-3
> 3: GPL-2, GPL-3
> (vermutlich gibt es noch viel mehr und der Teufel steckt im Detail)
>
> Gefunden habe ich:
> GPL-2: JOSM, OSM-Website, Mkgmap, Mediawiki
> GPL-3: Membrane
> AGPL:
> LGPL:
> MIT: Lua, Debian
> 2-BSD: OpenLayers
> 3-BSD:
>
> Was verwendest Du? wieso?
>
> Mit herzlichem Gruss,
> Markus
>
>
> Links:
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/
> https://opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
> https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
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Re: [Talk-it] R: CTR Lombardia in JOSM

2016-03-01 Per discussione Andrea Albani

> Proverò a scrivere ai gestori tramite l'apposito form

Questa la risposta che ho ottenuto oggi. Attendiamo fiduciosi.
-
Buongiorno,
il problema di restituzione dei tiles bianchi è noto ed in fase di
risoluzione.
Per il WMS:
http://www.cartografia.servizirl.it/arcgis/services/wms/ctr_wms/MapServer/WMSServer
abbiamo verificato ed il servizio viene correttamente caricato.
Le consigliamo di ripetere l'operazione e, nel caso dovesse avere
nuovamente difficoltà, ci ricontatti allegandoci un print screen
dell'errore restituito.
Restiamo a disposizione per eventuali chiarimenti.
Cordiali saluti

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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Miroslav Suchy

Dne 1.3.2016 v 15:41 Petr Holub napsal(a):
>  Osmtracker

+1
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker=cs

Umi vsechno co jsi jmenoval, krome "vice mapovych podkladu" - umi vykreslovat 
cestu jenom nad OSM.
Ale export do osm.org je mega jednoduchy - dve kliknuti a hotovo.

Mirek

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[Talk-us] Strategy for Naming Parts of a Large Park

2016-03-01 Per discussione Elliott Plack

The Patapsco Valley State Park (PVSP) (1) is a major state park in the
Baltimore area that Baltimore mappers (myself included) spent a lot of time
mapping. One issue I have with the current multipolygon is how to better
show map users the officially "named" areas.

PVSP consists of several nine or so areas (2) spread out over 30 miles of
the Patapsco River valley. Some of the parts are contiguous, others not.

What is a proper *strategy for adding these named parts to the map* such
that the relation remains? Perhaps a super-relation for the whole park,
with each smaller part as a sub relation/way?

Ultimately I'd like to see the areas rendered on the popular renderers,
since locals refer to the areas by their area name.

Best,

Elliott

(1) =
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2999749#map=11/39.2413/-76.8480=C
(2) =
http://dnr2.maryland.gov/publiclands/Documents/patapsco_overviewmap.pdf
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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Jakub Konečný

Ahoj, určitě zkus Locus, umí záznam trasy i bodů s bohatým nastavením,
export do gpx i na osm. Můžeš používat hromadu offline i online mapových
podkladů. Samozřejmě není problém ani import gpx a hromada dalších funkcí.
Používám placenou verzi, free má možná některé funkce, co jsem vypsal,
omezené.
Dne 1. 3. 2016 15:31 napsal uživatel "Petr Vozdecký" :

> Ahoj,
>
> chtěl bych se Vás zeptat na Vaše názory, zkušenosti či doporučení stran
> (nejen Android) aplikace pro smartphones vhodné k pořizování dat v terénu.
>
> Do současnosti jsem používal app Moje trasy od Google, ale výrobce oznámil
> ukončení provozu appky tuším k 1.4.2016
>
> Co všechno od jednoduché aplikace čekám? Minimálně to, abych mohl zapnout
> záznam trasy (výhodou je vykreslování do současné mapy) a mohl přidávat a
> pojmenovávat nějaké waypointy. Toto vše pak moci vyexportovat jako GPX pro
> další import do OSM.org. Zmíněná app toto umí (vč. exportu do GPX),
> následný import do OSM jsem pak zvládl během minuty i za chůze a než jsem
> došel domů, měl jsem připravenou stopu k editaci...
>
> Co všechno bych si představoval, že by to mohlo umět? Více mapových
> podkladů, primárně OSM (app Moje trasy pracují jen s google, což je např. v
> lese jen velký zelený flek a s ortofoto). Super by byl přímý export do
> OSM.org, před exportem možnost poeditovat souřadnice waypointů např.
> porovnáním vůči ortofotomapě. Možnost vložení waypointu nejen způsobem
> "tady kde stojím" ale i přidáním přes mapu. Při importu do OSM zadat
> položky Popis, Štítky, Viditelnost...
>
> Díky za reakce
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Re: [Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Petr Holub

> chtěl bych se Vás zeptat na Vaše názory, zkušenosti či doporučení stran 
> (nejen Android)
> aplikace pro smartphones vhodné k pořizování dat v terénu.

Locus Free, Locus Pro, Osmtracker (ten pouzivam na geotagovane audio poznamky) 
- pro Android.

Kdysi jsem napsal své poznámky semhle:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tipy_pro_efektivn%C3%AD_mapov%C3%A1n%C3%AD_na_horsk%C3%BDch_kolech
ale taky by si to už asi zasloužilo trochu update.

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[Talk-cz] Aplikace pro pořizování základních dat v terénu

2016-03-01 Per discussione Petr Vozdecký

Ahoj,

chtěl bych se Vás zeptat na Vaše názory, zkušenosti či doporučení stran 
(nejen Android) aplikace pro smartphones vhodné k pořizování dat v terénu.

Do současnosti jsem používal app Moje trasy od Google, ale výrobce oznámil 
ukončení provozu appky tuším k 1.4.2016

Co všechno od jednoduché aplikace čekám? Minimálně to, abych mohl zapnout 
záznam trasy (výhodou je vykreslování do současné mapy) a mohl přidávat a 
pojmenovávat nějaké waypointy. Toto vše pak moci vyexportovat jako GPX pro 
další import do OSM.org. Zmíněná app toto umí (vč. exportu do GPX), následný
import do OSM jsem pak zvládl během minuty i za chůze a než jsem došel domů,
měl jsem připravenou stopu k editaci...

Co všechno bych si představoval, že by to mohlo umět? Více mapových 
podkladů, primárně OSM (app Moje trasy pracují jen s google, což je např. v 
lese jen velký zelený flek a s ortofoto). Super by byl přímý export do OSM.
org, před exportem možnost poeditovat souřadnice waypointů např. porovnáním 
vůči ortofotomapě. Možnost vložení waypointu nejen způsobem "tady kde 
stojím" ale i přidáním přes mapu. Při importu do OSM zadat položky Popis, 
Štítky, Viditelnost...

Díky za reakce

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Re: [Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Dave F



FYI My avast virus software alerted that ink: HTML:Script-inf

On 01/03/2016 12:36, Rob Nickerson wrote:


Hi all,

We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn 
for setting this up.


We’re live: 
http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb


It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales 
and NI.


Notes:
* Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly 
where the point shows).
* ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific 
name tags.


Happy mapping,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Per discussione Stewart C. Russell

On 2016-03-01 07:19 AM, john whelan wrote:
> 
> My understanding of the terms and conditions for uploading data is you
> have to give permission for OSM to change the license from ODBl.

Isn't it more that the OSMF reserves the right to change the licence?
Ottawa's share-alike terms are incompatible with ODbL's share-alike
terms, so it has to go.

Not sure about what Paul meant by redacted vs deleted. Either way, I've
never rolled a changeset back, and this wouldn't be a good first one for
me to try.

cheers,
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Re: [Talk-cz] Fotky rozcestniku na osmap.cz

2016-03-01 Per discussione Michal Grézl

2016-02-28 9:23 GMT+01:00 Tom Ka :
> Ahoj,
>
> jednak jsem ted opravil chybu v DB, diky ktere se nekontrolovaly
> rozcestniky nenapojene na relace tur. tras, takze jich ted zobrazuje o
> neco vic (asi o 3000).
>
> A jinak jsem zase neco nafotil a zjistil, ze dost casto je GPS vic
> mimo nez bych si pral. S tim se vracim k moznosti editace souradnic
> fotek rozcestniku. I na kontrolach na OsmHiCheck je videt, ze dost
> rozcestniku je nepouzitych protoze jsou prilis mimo (ale zase pri
> zvednuti limitu nad tech 20m uz tam je prilis mnoho false alarmu).
>
> Michale, jaky je ted teda nejjednodusi prostup (pro mne i pro tebe),
> jak udelat update souradnic fotky?
>
> Diky

jelikoz sem se vratil z hor, zacnu na tom zas pomalu delat.
momentalne je nejjednodussi seznam obsahujici id a novou pozici.
v idealnim pripade list sql update prikazu

CREATE TABLE guidepost (
  id integer primary key AUTOINCREMENT,
  lat numeric,
  lon numeric,
  url varchar,
  name varchar,
  attribution varchar
, ref varchar, note varchar);

takhle momentalne vypada tabulka:)


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[OSM-talk] How to extract the 12M maritime borders using osmosis?

2016-03-01 Per discussione Egil Möller

Hi!

I'm working for a project that aims to measure IUU (illegal, unregulated
and unregistered) fishing (globalfishingwatch.org). For this I'd like to
be able to classify vessel track points as withing various areas, e.g.
MPAs, economic zones and national waters, of which OSM contains the last
one.

I'm trying to extract this dataset and import it into a PostGIS instance
for further processing. According to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dmaritime#Territorial_sea_.2812.C2.A0nm_zone.29
the borders should have these attributes

boundary=administrative since so many had a problem with grouping it
together with maritime borders
maritime=yes to state that this is a maritime border, so it can be
rendered correctly/different from land borders
admin_level=2 since it is a national boundary
border_type=territorial to distinguish it from borders on land

I tried extracting these borders using

osmosis/bin/osmosis -v \
  --read-pbf-fast file=planet-latest.osm.pbf \
  --tf reject-relations \
  --tf reject-nodes \
  --tf accept-ways boundary=administrative maritime=yes
admin_level=2 border_type=territorial \
  --write-xml file=12M.osm

I then imported this into PostGIS using

osmosis/bin/osmosis -v --read-xml file=12M.osm.bz2
--write-pgsimp-dump directory=12M

and the SQL script osmosis/script/pgsimple_load_0.6.sql.

Now to the problem:

  * I see a bunch of nodes all over the place, some even inland:
http://cdb.io/1QjDRGN
  * I see only 40 ways with nodes, all somewhere on the border of Iran:
http://cdb.io/1QjE2Sq


I tried the following query to find the number of ways with nodes:

select count(*) from (select ways.id, st_makeline(nodes.geom) line
from ways, way_nodes wn,nodes where wn.way_id = ways.id and
wn.node_id = nodes.id group by ways.id) a where line is not null;

Thanks in advance,
Egil


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Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer

Am 1. März 2016 um 10:59 schrieb Markus :

> Liebe Entwickler,
>
> Welche Lizenz verwendet Ihr für Eure Programme/Code?
>



die Lizenz(en) kannst Du bei jedem Projekt selbst sehen, sie sind
logischerweise einsehbar.
Z.B. osm2pgsql (das tool mit dem die Daten für den Mapnik Renderer
gefiltert und in die Rendering-Datenbank geschrieben werden):
https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/blob/master/COPYING

Ein guter Ausgangspunkt fürs Nachschauen ist neben dem Wiki z.B. diese
Seite auf Github:
https://github.com/openstreetmap

Gruß,
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[Talk-GB] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

Hi all,

We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
setting this up.

We’re live:
http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb

It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales and
NI.

Notes:
* Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where the
point shows).
* ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
tags.

Happy mapping,
Rob
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] MapRoulette challenge for schools

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

Hi all,

We have a maproulette challenge for UK schools!! Thanks go to Martijn for
setting this up.

We’re live:
http://maproulette.org/#t=ukschools/6d5899d6-facc-4460-b152-6e0ac68188bb

It focuses on the postcode areas that are least mapped including Wales and
NI.

Notes:
* Pan around the map to find the school (which may not be exactly where the
point shows).
* ysgol is welsh for school. You may want to use language specific name
tags.

Happy mapping,
Rob
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Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 03/01/2016 10:59 AM, Markus wrote:
> Gefunden habe ich:
> GPL-2: JOSM, OSM-Website, Mkgmap, Mediawiki
> GPL-3: Membrane

Viele haben auch "GPL v2 or higher", d.h. eine Upgrademöglichkeit.

Ein Beispiel für die Nr 1 "ganz frei" ist noch die mir sehr sympathische
WTFPL.

> AGPL:

OSRM war mal AGPL, doch als es dann von Mapbox gesponsort wurde, gab es
eine Rundfrage an alle, die bisher mit entwickelt hatten, ob ein Umstieg
auf BSD akzeptabel ist, und dann wurde das geändert.

Heute ist z.B. noch der Router "routino" unter AGPL.

> LGPL:
> MIT: Lua, Debian
> 2-BSD: OpenLayers
> 3-BSD:

Osmium verwendet die "Boost Software License", die der MIT- und
BSD-Lizenz sehr ähnlich ist.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Per discussione john whelan

>Data needs to be compatible with our license, which is the ODbL.[1]

My understanding of the terms and conditions for uploading data is you have
to give permission for OSM to change the license from ODBl. so yes its
ODBl. at the moment but maybe something else in the future.

Cheerio John

On 1 March 2016 at 02:40, Paul Norman  wrote:

> On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote:
>
> I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the
> license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to
> City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't know what license it
> may have in OSM in the future.
>
> Data needs to be compatible with our license, which is the ODbL.[1]
>
> Is anyone going to take the responsibility on for removing the data?
>
> Copyright incompatible data needs to be redacted, not just deleted. I'd
> normally be the one doing this, but I'm traveling today.
>
>
> http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License#Can_third-party_ODbL-licensed_data_be_imported.3F
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Re: [OSM-ja] SotM Japan 2016, 開催地と日程が確定しました！

2016-03-01 Per discussione ISHIKAWA Takayuki

こんにちは、奈良の石川です。SotM Japan 2016 の情報、ありがとう
ございます。昨年の SotM はいろいろと情報を収集でき有用でした。

3点、お願いがあります。

・発表件数によって少々時間が前後しても構わないので、凡その開始・
　終了時刻が公式に示されていると助かります。昨年は、当初、午前
　11時頃に SotM が終わってしまうような日程表示がずっと続いて
　いたので、てっきりそういう集まりなんだと思っていたのですが、
　発表内容が公表される際に夕方までかかると分かり、家庭内の日程
　調整に苦労しました。

・公式の mapping party が実施される場合は、極力早く概要が
　示されると (そして公式の web page から link　されると) 
　大変助かります。職場の関係で、出張の書類は遅くても
　1週間前には資料をそろえて提出しなければならないので (当初の
　予定から1～2時間くらいずれることは問題ないですが、宿泊の
　有無が関わってくるとかなり面倒な手続きになります)、できれば
　2週間前に資料が揃うとありがたいです。

・Google で「SotM Japan 2016」と検索したら下記の URL が
　表示されたのですが、中間証明書が適切に配置されていないため 
　Firefox から閲覧することができませんでした。もし関係する
　方をご存知でしたらお伝えいただけると幸いです。

  https://openstreetmap.jp/node/773

なるべくこの日は他の予定を入れずに参加するようにしたいと思い
ます。よろしくお願いします。

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[Talk-de] Lizenz für Programme und Code

2016-03-01 Per discussione Markus

Liebe Entwickler,

Welche Lizenz verwendet Ihr für Eure Programme/Code?

Es scheint folgende Unterschiede für freie Lizenzen zu geben:

1. ganz frei
2. mit Namensnennung (Autor muss immer genannt werden)
3. Copyleft (eigene Ergänzungen
   müssen unter gleicher Lizenz veröffentlicht werden)

Beispiele für:
1: MIT, CC0, BSD-2
2: BSD-3
3: GPL-2, GPL-3
(vermutlich gibt es noch viel mehr und der Teufel steckt im Detail)

Gefunden habe ich:
GPL-2: JOSM, OSM-Website, Mkgmap, Mediawiki
GPL-3: Membrane
AGPL:
LGPL:
MIT: Lua, Debian
2-BSD: OpenLayers
3-BSD:

Was verwendest Du? wieso?

Mit herzlichem Gruss,
Markus


Links:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/
https://opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2016 Accomodation

2016-03-01 Per discussione Stephan Knauss


On 01.03.2016 08:04, Jochen Topf wrote:

There is only a single hotel listed when I click through there, the "Motel One".
Price for a single room is 93 EUR. hrs.de offers the same hotel for 79 EUR.
Even if you add the extra breakfast (9.50) that's still cheaper.


When I checked it out three days ago I believe it was 3 nights for 186, 
including breakfast and tax. Maybe it did not display it correctly on a 
smartphone. Or the budget rooms are already gone.
That price was quite nice compared to hrs, but unfortunately I did not 
book as I wanted to do this on the PC and not via smartphone.


Have now a reservation for "Maxhotel". Similar area, roughly 30 minutes 
to the venue by public transport. No breakfast but reviews on hrs look 
fine. 3 nights for 147 EUR.


Stephan


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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2016 Accomodation

2016-03-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson

That price is for weekend only. If guests also want to stay Thursday
evening then the price you found is higher than 79.

Also beware any city taxes and breakfast - 79+9.50+4.50=93!! Thus we are
equal cheapest or cheaper depending on which days you decide to stay.

I also checked a bunch of UK booking sites and found nothing cheaper once
breakfast and taxes had been added.

The prices we have are fixed whereas booking sites trend up as availability
falls.

Rob

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:04 Jochen Topf,  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 03:00:04PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> > The SotM accommodation deal is a really good one but we do have a limited
> > number of rooms so I encourage you to book up early. As noted the ticket
> > sale will follow shortly and will be a similar price to Birmingham 2013.
> >
> > Details at:
> > http://2016.stateofthemap.org/venue/
>
> There is only a single hotel listed when I click through there, the "Motel
> One".
> Price for a single room is 93 EUR. hrs.de offers the same hotel for 79
> EUR.
> Even if you add the extra breakfast (9.50) that's still cheaper.
>
> Jochen
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