[OSM-talk-nl] Caribbean Netherlands
Hi, in the "split up Netherlands on Geofabrik download server" thread the topic of the "ABC" and "SSS" islands was brought up. I'll have to think about that. Things are a bit disorganised on the download server when it comes to overseas territories. For example, the Canary Islands have their own entry under "Africa" because that's where they belong geographically, even though politically they are of course a part of Spain. Once I split up Spain I'll probably have to add them under Spain with the other subdivisions. Guadeloupe, which is geographically in Central America, already has its own entry under "France" (which can be confusing since the france.osm.pbf does *not* contain Guadeloupe - just as the netherlands.osm.pbf is also confined to the European part of the country). The groupings "ABC" and "SSS" seem to be rather informal; other options would be to group everything in one and call it... well... "Nederlandse Antillen" is not an official term any more, is it? And "Caribisch Nederland" is just three of the six islands? One could also have separate files for each but they would be *really* small. Is the ABC/SSS grouping the obvious choice? I somewhat dislike the splitting of Saint Martin/Sint Maarten. I figure that for all practical purposes, a map user would want to load a file that contains both parts of the island, and it would be cumbersome to have to pick the two halves out from underneath the Netherlands and France (especially as there will be some overlap so combining the two files can be difficult). I'm open to suggestions on this. I would guess the Dutch and the French are rather relaxed about the Saint Martin/Sint Maarten split but who knows, maybe it's a hot political issue ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server
Hi, On 11/7/18 23:25, Pander OpenTaal wrote: > While we are at it, I have tried contacting Geofabrik on this, but it > never landed. Perhaps posting it here will help. I've fixed the spelling problems, but it's not time to split up Belgium yet. I explained that to someone @opentaal.org (unsure if it was you, he didn't use the name Pander): Czechia, Spain, Austria, Australia, Brazil, Sweden, China, India, Indonesia and a few second-level territories of Canada, Russia, and Italy are each larger (in terms of data size) than Belgium and will have to be split before we split up Belgium, at least that's how things look like at the moment... who knows what data imports are in the works ;) I'll start a different thread about the Caribbean. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server
Hi, On 11/07/18 11:02, Colin Smale wrote: > Frederik, are the 12 files taken from the same snapshot? Are they > guaranteed to be "in sync" with each other? Yes, they're all generated from the same snapshot. It could theoretically happen that if you download all 12 one after the other, if you're very unlucky, the update happens somewhere in between and then you get 6 old and 7 new files, but you can protect yourself against that by using the file names that end with a time spec (drenthe-181106.osm.pbf instead of drenthe-latest.osm.pbf). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server
Hi, I've implemented the split now: http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/netherlands.html From tomorrow on, this should also generate daily diffs for each province. I'm already using the 2019 area definitions for Utrecht and Zuid-Holland so they are "wrong" for the next 2 months but I hope that's not too bad. Please let me know if you spot any problems! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server
Hi, On 06.11.2018 10:46, Bas Couwenberg wrote: > I already have the changes for the municipal changes on January 1st > ready, this includes the changes to the province borders. > > AFAIK Frederik uses the boundary relations to create the poly files, so > those will just need to be refreshed when the boundaries change. Not really, my clipping boundaries are curated manually so any refresh will also have to happen manually - because I don't want people to be surprised with sudden changes. It sounds like a good idea to wait until the change is done - or actually, perhaps it would not hurt if I simply implement the future boundaries on the download server right now. Which of the provinces are due to change? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[OSM-talk-nl] Splitting up Netherlands on Geofabrik Download Server
Hi, the Netherlands are currently the largest .osm.pbf file on the Geofabrik download server for which there are no split regions. Hence I would like to split it up, and my question to you is which is more useful: 1. split into 4 regions North, West, South, East? 2. split into 12 provinces? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
