Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread john whelan
One problem I had when living in the UK was deciding which station to use to travel up to London. Mother who worked as a midwife had been told one station by the nurses at the hospital. Fine except it was a 20 minute drive to get there and the fairly high frequency but stopping tube would get

Re: [Talk-transit] USA

2019-09-25 Thread John Whelan
OpenStreetMap originated in the UK and Germany but these days it is far more widespread. Are you asking if anyone in the US adds bus stops?  Or saying you think that the recommended practices for mapping bus stops should be different in the US. OSM is often used by apps to show routing or

Re: [Talk-transit] Old railways

2019-05-12 Thread john whelan
>Btw, do you know of a way to copy data from one layer in JOSM to another, while keeping it at the exact same position? Create a new layer down load a tiny area with nothing in it works fine. Select what you want to copy and copy to new layer. Cheerio John On Sun, May 12, 2019, 1:46 PM Tijmen

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-07 Thread john whelan
So if we connect a bus_stop to a highway with a path would that address the routing concerns? Or is that idea too simple? Thanks John On Tue, May 7, 2019, 3:53 PM Jarek Piórkowski, wrote: > Sorry, crossed my wires while editing at one point: > > > 9a. Because we must retain hw=bus_stop per #3

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-04 Thread john whelan
> > . > > I don't understand. Tutorials are local, or do you mean bus stops? Local > to what? All entities are locatable. > Please expand. > > Cheers > DaveF > Unfortunately people make notes often on paper. So someone leading a mapping group will refer to their notes when repeating the

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-04 Thread John Whelan
So can the proposal build on existing highway=bus_stop?  On reason for this is a number of cites have imported their bus stops from Open Data which ensures completeness.  ie all the bus stops in the city are present and occasionally they are reimported to catch any new bus stops or removal of

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread john whelan
Within a geographic area could we accept that all bus stops with a specific tag were GTFS tags for a particular transit company? Thanks John On 16 Jan 2018 7:42 pm, "Johnparis" wrote: > I believe OSM-Sync creates nodes with "gtfs_id" as the tag key. The value > is

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2014-08-12 Thread john whelan
Ottawa has all its bus stops in and rendered in OMAND and the normal rendering web sites. The city has links to the maps on its web site for some years but all the bus stops are labelled highway=bus_stop and are tagged with the stop numbers so you can text or phone a number to find out when the

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS and the like

2014-04-02 Thread john whelan
The thing to watch out for with GTFS data is the stop location. Some transit systems have very accurate data, such as Ottawa, typically is used for announcements on buses for blind people, others have bus stops that can be 300 meters out. There are tools to import the bus stops from the GTFS

Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread john whelan
What is the licensing on the GTFS data? Thanks John On 8 September 2010 10:26, Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Thanks to Roland Olbricht's Public Transport plugin, I have successfully merged existing bus stops with my GTFS data. There was a part of the work that required

Re: [Talk-transit] How to map named bus stop platform/positions

2010-08-31 Thread john whelan
Since most renders only display the name to make it useful to the casual map user I'd suggest A name or B name in the name field. There is a similar problem with the GTFS stop_code. Cheerio John On 31 August 2010 14:17, Magnus Bäck ba...@swipnet.se wrote: In the Skånetrafiken public transport

Re: [Talk-transit] simplified relations for transit

2010-08-17 Thread john whelan
Taking this a bit further there is a blog that talks about displaying routes on a map, the last example on the page has a route number on it which might be useful. www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/ Cheerio John On 16 August 2010 14:52, Hillsman, Edward

Re: [Talk-transit] simplified relations for transit

2010-08-16 Thread john whelan
I've been playing with editing an OSM file in Visual Basic, you save the .OSM file from JOSM or grab it in some other way then edit the XML file, putting a modify tag on anything changed, load it into JOSM then upload the changes. I actually wanted an automated way to generate a name:fr tag on a

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

2010-08-03 Thread john whelan
An old one but I was looking at JOSM. It appears that if you save an OSM file from JOSM that has modifications to be uploaded it tags them in the XML file. So it should be be possible to save an .osm file, edit it in some way then get JOSM to upload the changes. Sort of an off line plug-in.

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-15 Thread john whelan
the associated bus stops. Can be done. Greetings, LMB On 15.07.2010 14:50, john whelan wrote: I don't think this is a good idea as Ottawa certainly changes the bus routes or lines four times a year.  Some lines are stable for many years but many are not.  The stops themselves remain in the same

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

2010-07-04 Thread john whelan
be different? Jeni On 01/07/2010 17:08, john whelan wrote: Since the JOSM plug_in will become the defacto standard since it will be used by many people who don't read posts here or understand the issues may I request that it uses the GTFS tag of stop_name and stop_code rather than the tag

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

2010-07-01 Thread john whelan
Since the JOSM plug_in will become the defacto standard since it will be used by many people who don't read posts here or understand the issues may I request that it uses the GTFS tag of stop_name and stop_code rather than the tag of name. In one location two stops with the same stop_name

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

2010-06-30 Thread john whelan
I'm currently looking at Bus stops in Ottawa in OSM and finding similar issues with the existing bus_stops. I'm seriously wondering where stop_codes exist if one approach might be to import bus_stops using GTFS data and use the GTFS tags such as stop_code etc from stops.txt

[Talk-transit] Bus stops in North America from GTFS data

2010-06-10 Thread john whelan
Currently bus tops mapped locally in Ottawa seem to be either untagged or tagged in different ways. Maperitive default rules displays the icon and the name field. The GTFS (General Transit Feed Specification was Google TFS at one time) has three relevant tags these are stop_code, stop_name, and

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stops in North America from GTFS data

2010-06-10 Thread john whelan
Ottawa is different. The passengers complain if the bus is one minute early or five minutes late. Quite unlike London in the UK where I used to live. I think it stems from the minus 30c in winter time, with wind chill it can be even colder, the passengers typically turn up about two minutes