Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-27 Thread Teemu Ikonen
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: The original Oxomoa scheme already contained a solution to your problem[1]. It simply is not widely used yet. [1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/%C3%96PNV-Schema#Bus-_und_Oberleitungsbuslinien Thanks for

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-27 Thread Jan
Hi I think the diffrent between express and long_distance is that express service do not stop at every stoppoint even it is the same network. regards Jan Am 28.05.2014 00:42, schrieb Teemu Ikonen: express (97) / long_distance (70) / on_demand (102) / regular (299) / school (177) / shopping

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-26 Thread Bill R. WASHBURN
What about a three-level service scheme for buses: Service=local (transit system bus lines) Service=commuter (express commuter buses to the suburbs) Service=intercity (like the American Greyhound bus routes) There might be grey areas but it should be fairly easy to fit most routes in one of

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-26 Thread Cartinus
While you could call all intercity buses express buses. Not all express buses are intercity buses. A common scheme around here is for rush hour express lines that stop at all stops in the suburbs/villages, then skip most/all stops in the city proper and end at the central (bus)station. The

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-26 Thread Cartinus
I just realized that for people living in a bigger country there might actually be a difference between those two. There is however no reason they could not be rendered the same (at least initially). On 05/26/2014 05:46 PM, Cartinus wrote: bus=long_distance (70 uses currently in the database)

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
I don't think we need a new tag. There would be a lot of gray area, where do coaches end and buses start? The line isn't clear. What would help is we should map the operator tag and then the renderers should show the route or not based on the operator. Or different operators could be rendered with

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-25 Thread Jan
Hi Am 25.05.2014 11:02, schrieb Janko Mihelić: I don't think we need a new tag. There would be a lot of gray area, where do coaches end and buses start? The line isn't clear. What would help is we should map the operator tag and then the renderers should show the route or not based on the

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-25 Thread Richard Mann
I added service=express to the coaches that we have locally, using a similar model to that used for train services. As long as it's clear, it doesn't really matter (it can always be standardised at a later date). {Formally, coaches are quite distinctive - the wheels are attached to an underframe

[Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-24 Thread Teemu Ikonen
Hi, The current public transport schema bundles local bus transit routes together with intercity buses (coaches), both routes are tagged with route=bus. Since buses and coaches rarely are part of the same network, this makes things rather confusing for users of transit maps like Öpnvkarte. If I