[Talk-transit] Naptan import stop tagging (was: Proposed changes to oxomoa schema [part 2: stops])

2010-06-29 Thread Claudius Henrichs
One question on the Naptan import: Did you use any tags from the public_transport therefore? Or are these all highway=bus_stop? Would be a great chance to increase coverage of the more detailed public_transport=platform Claudius Am 29.06.2010 02:07, Shaun McDonald: In the UK as part of the

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import stop tagging

2010-06-29 Thread Claudius Henrichs
I was referring to public_transport=platform + bus=yes public_transport=bus_stop would not work because there are stop positions where trams, buses and sometimes (Karlsruhe comes to my mind) even light_rails stop at the same position (Image:

Re: [Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones

2009-08-09 Thread Chris Morley
Roger Slevin wrote: The PlusBus zone data comes from PlusBus – so please don’t try to change it. If you think it is wrong, then let me know and I will ask PlusBus to review the information. The Wrexham and Ruabon PlusBus zone has been imported without any reference to Wrexham (the more

[Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Loach
I see some areas have been imported near here, public_transport=pay_scale_area, for Harwich and Clacton. Is there a wiki page somewhere detailing what these are (I'll search after sending this)? In the case of Clacton, it looks like it was defined as a line from the coast, inland, then back

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Loach
[mailto:talk- transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roger Slevin Sent: 07 August 2009 09:20 To: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Ed Useful feedback which I will take up with PlusBus - as they should have listed coastal

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Miller
To: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Ed Useful feedback which I will take up with PlusBus - as they should have listed coastal boundary stops to avoid this situation. Best wishes Roger -Original Message- From: talk

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Loach
I am not offering to create the page so hopefully someone else will do that. (I am doing work on cleaning up other existing transit related wiki pages on when I have time). I might do a page Tag:public_transport=pay_scale_area and divert PlusBus to that? Google reveals these areas were

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Christoph Böhme
...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach Sent: 07 August 2009 08:59 To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-transit] Naptan import I see some areas have been imported near here, public_transport=pay_scale_area, for Harwich and Clacton. Is there a wiki page somewhere

Re: [Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones

2009-08-06 Thread Roger Slevin
From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Clough - OSM Sent: 05 August 2009 15:31 To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones I've had a quick look at a couple

[Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
I've had a quick look at a couple of the PlusBusZones (once inadvertently, as the name is rendering inappropriately on the Mapnik map): Nottingham and Maidenhead. In both cases boundaries are only approximate, and appear to be delimited by bus stops rather than routes (e.g., service 6 in

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-04 Thread Christoph Böhme
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: snip Ooops, I linked the wrong changeset! http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/389 was my intent. A couple of comments. Firstly, the locality field is an important part of the

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be on the data or

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Slevin
-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme Sent: 02 August 2009 00:24 To: Thomas Wood Cc: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-02 Thread Christoph Böhme
topics Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Slevin
...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme Sent: 02 August 2009 11:40 To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Plusbus zones are polygons which are unrelated to the road network - so for Rye it covers a large polygon defined

[Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-01 Thread Thomas Wood
I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be on the data or changesets. Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here - http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/394 Comments welcomed.

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be on the data or changesets. Since the source tag applies to the whole changeset it makes sense to tag only the

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here - http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/394 Comments welcomed. Could

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-01 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is cool :-). Thomas can you import it using the naptan-user if no one objects to the tagging

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-01 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here -

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is cool :-). Thomas can you import it using

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-31 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/29 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: [snip] - Alternative names (e.g. welsh names) NaPTAN includes this too, I was going to check whether the functionality was required as we started on Welsh/Scottish regions, I can't remember the

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-31 Thread Roger Slevin
-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Wood Sent: 31 July 2009 16:14 To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import 2009/7/29 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: 2009/7/29 Christoph

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-30 Thread Christoph Boehme
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there untouched - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and the data is sitting available in NPTG. I taught myself XSLT at

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Christoph Böhme
...@b3e.net] Sent: 28 July 2009 22:54 To: ro...@slevin.plus.com; Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Cc: ro...@slevin.plus.com; 'Peter Miller' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Roger, thank you for your explanations. Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Christoph Böhme
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Christoph Böhme
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net schrieb: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Talking of the NaPTAN import: The NPTG data also contains polygons for the Plusbus Zones. This data is self-contained and can easily be imported. They

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Roger Slevin
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net schrieb: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Talking

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Roger Slevin
[mailto:christ...@b3e.net] Sent: 29 July 2009 18:36 To: ro...@slevin.plus.com Cc: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics'; 'Peter Miller' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Christoph Sorry - I now realise I shouldn't have referred

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-29 Thread Christoph Böhme
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: 2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is cool :-). Thomas can you import it using the naptan-user if no one objects to the tagging scheme?

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has been created to indicate how this field should be used

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Jul 2009, at 18:41, Christoph Böhme wrote: o...@edwardbetts.com schrieb: Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net wrote: Many places have wikipedia entries (even villages). If we can manage to automatically look the entries up and extract the relevant information (population size) from the

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Christoph Böhme
Roger, thank you for your explanations. Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Although NPTG was originally for public transport purposes, we stressed at all times that a locality should be listed even if it has no public transport - but we know that some local editors have probably

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Roger Slevin
: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net] Sent: 28 July 2009 22:54 To: ro...@slevin.plus.com; Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Cc: ro...@slevin.plus.com; 'Peter Miller' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Roger, thank you for your explanations. Roger Slevin ro

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/26 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: I am happy to continue working on the NPTG import if Thomas does not mind. Yes, that's fine, NPTG isn't really an interest of mine, as I think I insinuated on the wikipage writeup of the format. 2009/7/27 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: My

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Roger Slevin
2009 08:52 To: Christoph Böhme Cc: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there untouched - last

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Christoph Böhme
Good evening, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: I also created a copy of the NOVAM viewer and changed it to display NTPG data instead of bus stops: http://www.mappa-mercia.org/cgi-bin/nptg.wsgi/viewer.html Great stuff, and

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for a table of permitted values). There is no

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Roger Slevin
] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme Sent: 27 July 2009 21:50 To: Peter Miller Cc: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Good evening, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: I also created a copy of the NOVAM viewer

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Roger Slevin
-Original Message- From: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net] Sent: 27 July 2009 22:14 To: ro...@slevin.plus.com Cc: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics' Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-27 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for a table of

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-26 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there untouched - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and the data is sitting available in NPTG. I taught myself XSLT at the weekend and played a bit with the NPTG

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-22 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/22 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info: In message on 20 Jul 2009,  Ed Loach wrote: I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a certain point in time, and

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-22 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/22 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: 2009/7/22 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info: In message on 20 Jul 2009,  Ed Loach wrote: I'm assuming that the naptan import when it

[Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-20 Thread Ed Loach
I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a certain point in time, and won't include any new bus stops since that time? I'm asking because a bus route has changed in the last week or so that now passes my house both ways instead of just one way and rather than add bus

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/4/3 Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com: Hi Thomas From our west mids meeting last night  a number of requests and queries came up 1.Can you import Wolverhampton - the guys up there are ready to have a crack Ok, done. 2. Coventry will not be far behind but hold off until we've

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import starts - Birmingham trial area first

2009-03-31 Thread Peter J Stoner
In message 49d135f1.9010...@00l.de Gerrit Lammert o...@00l.de wrote: Hi. I'm exited to see how this works out. Beeing curious, I just zoomed in into Birmingham and noticed two things: 1) Imported stops seem to be close to the already mapped ones but off by some meters 2) Some

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import starts - Birmingham trial area first

2009-03-30 Thread Gerrit Lammert
Hi. I'm exited to see how this works out. Beeing curious, I just zoomed in into Birmingham and noticed two things: 1) Imported stops seem to be close to the already mapped ones but off by some meters 2) Some Streets seem to consist entirely of bus_stops.

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import

2009-03-23 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/3/19 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com:  - Run a conversion and filter on the West Midlands data set for just items in Birmingham. I've now written the filtering code for the converter script, I think all that's left to be done is to test the file upload against a test OSM api, to

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/3/19 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 19 Mar 2009, at 17:18, Thomas Wood wrote: Yes, this is the first message since the confirmation we can use the data. I did a little more tweaking to the StopArea code at the weekend (not that it matters for the WestMids data). I propose

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN import

2009-03-18 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi all has there been any progress with the NaPTAN import yet? The list has been very quiet recently. I started programming the visual merge tool but I have not yet reached a point where there is something to show. I decided not to modify the busstop data in the osm database directly but to keep