Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Nicholas Vetrovec nickvet...@yahoo.comwrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations Since interstate highways are usually two separate one-way ways, which way (or

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:54:12 -0500 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Nicholas Vetrovec nickvet...@yahoo.comwrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations We'll need this kind of coordination for U.S. routes as well. -- Minh Nguyenm...@zoomtown.com AIM: trycom2000;

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Minh Nguyen wrote: On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations We'll need this kind of coordination for U.S. routes as well. Probably wouldn't hurt for the

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Joseph Jon Booker wrote: Also, wouldn't it make sense to have the way a route is displayed as the name? For example, network=I,ref=90 would have name=I 90, and network=US:IL, ref=58 would have name=IL 58 in the relations. Not really, no. Many Interstate routes have official names that have

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Minh Nguyen wrote: On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations We'll need this kind of coordination for U.S. routes as well. Another thing I just

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 04:39 -0500, Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:54:12 -0500 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Nicholas Vetrovec nickvet...@yahoo.comwrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations.

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Nicholas Vetrovec nickvet...@yahoo.com wrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations Instead of state_id=xx, I would suggest we glom onto addr:state=xx as the recent

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 10:26 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Blog entry with more details here. http://weait.com/content/badges-badges The highway badges you've added look great. Are you working on pushing your changes

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 04:39 -0500, Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:54:12 -0500 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Nicholas Vetrovec nickvet...@yahoo.comwrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
this is nice, will add what I have done already. some comments for discussion. did you change the recommendation for a reason compared to the one here? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging not that this is perfect but it has more information. both definitions should be

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 12 Apr 2009, at 2:39 , Joseph Jon Booker wrote: US routes can also become two separate one-ways when becoming express ways or trunk ways, while being a regular two-way street the rest of the way, so it probably doesn't make sense to have separate directions. Perhaps a proposal can be made

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:  network=us_i_2 # Interstate (2 digit) us_i_3 for 3 digit  network=us_us_2 # US Route us_us_3 for 3 digit  network=us_ny # NY State Route  network=us_ny_county # That looks great to me, except that us_i_2 vs us_i_3 seems

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
this is great work, signs could be a bit smaller tough. why not stick with the symbol tag? see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging the symbols tagging should be transparent to the mappers not only to some internal notation of a renderer. and tags should be human

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: this is great work, signs could be a bit smaller tough. why not stick with the symbol tag? see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging the symbols tagging should be transparent to the

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 12 Apr 2009, at 9:01 , Adam Schreiber wrote: Probably because the mapper can easily identify the type of road (i.e. Interstate, US Hwy, etc.). I'm not sure that the mapper should be specifying the URL of the sign since it requires extra work to find it and any renderer should be able to

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 10:38 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: network=us_i_2 # Interstate (2 digit) us_i_3 for 3 digit network=us_us_2 # US Route us_us_3 for 3 digit network=us_ny # NY State Route network=us_ny_county # That looks great to me, except that us_i_2 vs us_i_3 seems like tagging

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:45:23 -0700 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Joseph Jon Booker wrote: Also, wouldn't it make sense to have the way a route is displayed as the name? For example, network=I,ref=90 would have name=I 90, and network=US:IL, ref=58 would have name=IL 58 in the

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:31:14 -0400 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I don't understand what the auxiliary list is about. Interstates are interstates even if they are only in one state. E.g. I-190 in Massachusetts. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_41#Alternate_routes . I've never seen

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 13:23 -0500, Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:39:45 -0700 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: 2 relations are easier. adding role to thousands of members is a pain. and we need to split relations with API 0.6 anyway So how do we handle the

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 12 Apr 2009, at 11:58 , Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 13:23 -0500, Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:39:45 -0700 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: 2 relations are easier. adding role to thousands of members is a pain. and we need to split relations

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:30:48 -0700 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 Apr 2009, at 11:14 , Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:31:22 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Perhaps direction=North|South|West|East, or cardinal=North|South| West|

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 4/12/09 11:23 AM, Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:39:45 -0700 Apollinaris Schoellascho...@gmail.com wrote: 2 relations are easier. adding role to thousands of members is a pain. and we need to split relations with API 0.6 anyway So how do we handle the case

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:21:05 -0700 Minh Nguyen m...@1ec5.org wrote: On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote: Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations We'll need this kind of coordination for

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Joseph Jon Booker wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:45:23 -0700 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Joseph Jon Booker wrote: Also, wouldn't it make sense to have the way a route is displayed as the name? For example, network=I,ref=90 would have name=I 90, and network=US:IL, ref=58 would

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 12 Apr 2009, at 9:01 , Adam Schreiber wrote: Probably because the mapper can easily identify the type of road (i.e. Interstate, US Hwy, etc.). I'm not sure that the mapper should be specifying the URL of the sign since it requires extra work to find it and any

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: this is nice, will add what I have done already. some comments for discussion. did you change the recommendation for a reason compared to the one here? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging not that this is perfect but it has more

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 20:26 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes: Why make this more complicated than it has to be? Leave the names on the underlying way, not the relations; leave the refs on the relations, not the underlying ways. Then it's a matter of

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:39:50 -0700 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Why make this more complicated than it has to be? Leave the names on the underlying way, not the relations; leave the refs on the relations, not the underlying ways. Then it's a matter of fixing mapnik and t...@h to

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: It contains all you need to pick the correct sign. But you need the whole knowledge about signs for all states, county ... as an example California uses different signs for US routes but the same for

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread David Lynch
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 19:00, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: - with API 0.6 the size of relations is limited to 1000 members. many interstates have more segments. relations have to be split into smaller pieces and a super relation. Ouch!  Who failed

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-12 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 12 Apr 2009, at 17:00 , Paul Johnson wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: this is nice, will add what I have done already. some comments for discussion. did you change the recommendation for a reason compared to the one here?