Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Jack Kittle
+1 on a parallel/complementary database. we have lots of Civil War sites here in Georgia that would be fun to map. it's a timely topic during the sesquicentennial years. jack On 3/26/2011 5:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/26/11 5:53 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Richard Welty writes:

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread john
In some cases, portions of the sites are still extant, and could be shown on current maps; other portions are no longer in existence, and should show up only on historical maps, or rendered in a different color, as a historical overlay. So, the tagging would need to distinguish between the two

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i'm debating whether or not i want to set up a parallel database, using the OSM design, to contain historical data that can be used in a mashup with OSM, and opening it up for historically minded mappers to use as a

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Steven Johnson
I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different databases/datasets. But the same qualities that make it useful for historical (i.e. Civil War battlefield mapping) might also be useful for mapping of ephemeral

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different This might be something interesting to do with those servers that the US local

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/11 11:22 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Steven Johnsonsejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different This might be something interesting to

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-03-08 06:03, Mike N wrote: The Motorway Junction tag at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway_junction has recently had the exit_to tag added. Old interstate tagging advice at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway was to put exit sign destinations in the name

Re: [Talk-us] Caltrans exit numbers

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-03-23 04:22, Dale Puch wrote: A quick note, do not confuse public records as always meaning public domain. Some states may not have laws specifically preventing agencies from claiming copyright, not apply to all levels of government, or have exceptions to which works. IE. I think it was

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-03-28 09:13, Mike N wrote: ... A different way to ask the question is does it make sense to render the exit_to at any time?The most likely use of the information is by navigation utilities - where the actual map rendering will be much more sparse to limit information to only that

Re: [Talk-us] Caltrans exit numbers

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2011-03-23 04:22, Dale Puch wrote: A quick note, do not confuse public records as always meaning public domain. Some states may not have laws specifically preventing agencies from claiming copyright, not

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/28/2011 12:28 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: In southern California, in my experience, people do not use exit numbers when giving directions - they use what we would call the name of the exit, which is usually the name of the street on which the offramp terminates*. One reason is that exit numbering

Re: [Talk-us] Caltrans exit numbers

2011-03-28 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Santa Clara county was sued successfully, but not on a federal level. State of California has the same PD rules and this can be used only for California state and county data. Don't have the link available right now but it can be found in the archives of talk-us But still you may need to check

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/11 10:18 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i will look into where this can be hosted, and look into setting up a mailing list for those interested in the project to communicate. does anyone object to a google groups list named something like osm-layers? richard

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 3/28/11 10:18 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i will look into where this can be hosted, and look into setting up a mailing list for those interested in the project to communicate. does anyone object to a google groups

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/11 2:04 PM, Richard Weait wrote: Yes, but not for the reason you might think. ;-) Have the conversation here where everybody can participate, or at least watch in silence. The risk of prematurely splitting off to another group is that you'll miss some interested parties. If the

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
In rural areas, the names on the sign tend to be towns that may be upwards of 10 miles away from the interstate. Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.0631lon=-96.2784zoom=13layers=M ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpgWhat is the proposed tag for the highway=motorway_junction node? Are we tagging the node with exactly what

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Mike N
On 3/28/2011 3:19 PM, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpgWhat is the proposed tag for the highway=motorway_junction node?

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/28/2011 3:19 PM, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Andrew Cleveland
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:40 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/28/2011 3:19 PM, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture:

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Andrew Cleveland evil.salt...@gmail.com wrote: Though that might be making things more complicated than they need to be. Yes. It is unreasonable to expect mappers to use special characters. That is just asking for inconsistencies in our data. IMHO, if it can't be

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

2011-03-28 Thread Antony Pegg
Hi Richard, I *think* the short answer is that you don't have to include the address point node/way into the interpolated way I dont know whether or not its the correct way of doing things, but I know what works with Nominatim Address points trump interpolation every time if you have an

Re: [Talk-us] Caltrans exit numbers

2011-03-28 Thread Dale Puch
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote: Santa Clara county was sued successfully, but not on a federal level. State of California has the same PD rules and this can be used only for California state and county data. Don't have the link available right now

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/11 5:13 PM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hi Richard, I *think* the short answer is that you don't have to include the address point node/way into the interpolated way I dont know whether or not its the correct way of doing things, but I know what works with Nominatim Address points trump

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/28/2011 5:00 PM, Andrew Cleveland wrote: Just a nitpick: For exit numbers that consist of both a number and a letter, should we insert a space? For example 20A vs. 20 A. The MUTCD ( http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm#section2E31 ) says Suffix letters shall be used for exit

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/28/11 6:21 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/28/2011 5:00 PM, Andrew Cleveland wrote: Just a nitpick: For exit numbers that consist of both a number and a letter, should we insert a space? For example 20A vs. 20 A. The MUTCD ( http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm#section2E31

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Mike N
On 3/28/2011 12:28 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Another is that, for people that have traveled the area extensively, the name of the exit gives one a far better mental picture of where an exit is than the postmile-related exit number. This is an argument where the actual local exit reference would

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Val Kartchner
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 18:27 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/28/11 6:21 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: This seems to be a display choice rather than an actual space in the exit number. we should standardize on how we enter them, either space or no space (and no tricky unicode characters, just