[Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

2011-04-09 Thread Richard Welty
there are some notes in the Wiki about downgrading state highways to tertiary if they don't connect up to other secondary roads at reasonable intervals. in the spirit of this, when i encountered a county route in Rensselaer County that was a stub that only reached a couple of houses and a

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Craig Hinners
So it's clear from the responses thatthere are differing needs here: Due to regional differences, displaying the two-letter USPS code in the shield is not necessarily desirable. For example, there are states where "SR" is more easily understood. At the conceptual level, the same string should not

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.com wrote: Of course, it would be desirable to have consensus on the syntax of the conceptual-level tag, be it highway:network:us:fl=123, or highway:network=us:fl:123, or highway=fl:123, but that's a diversion from the crux of the

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: route relations. The ref=* tag on ways right now is mostly tagging for the renderer because current renderers don't use route relations. Richard Weait has done some work on this: http://weait.com/content/badges-badges

Re: [Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

2011-04-09 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/9/2011 8:41 AM, Richard Welty wrote: there are some notes in the Wiki about downgrading state highways to tertiary if they don't connect up to other secondary roads at reasonable intervals. in the spirit of this, when i encountered a county route in Rensselaer County that was a stub that

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/9/2011 8:41 AM, Craig Hinners wrote: * At the conceptual level, the same string should not be used to represent the networks of multiple states, and some state-unique ID, be it the USPS two-letter abbreviation or otherwise, is needed. Why? We use the same prefixes for many

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/9/2011 10:21 AM, Toby Murray wrote: This explicitly split out network information should be present in route relations. The ref=* tag on ways right now is mostly tagging for the renderer because current renderers don't use route relations. And tagging for redundancy, since relations break

Re: [Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

2011-04-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/9/11 10:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/9/2011 8:41 AM, Richard Welty wrote: there are some notes in the Wiki about downgrading state highways to tertiary if they don't connect up to other secondary roads at reasonable intervals. in the spirit of this, when i encountered a county

Re: [Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

2011-04-09 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/9/2011 11:18 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i wouldn't, i think, upgrade everything that has full striping as that would mean that most all roads in, say, Saratoga County end up tertiary as the towns there like to spend money on stripes. a standard based on striping makes more sense in Rensselaer

Re: [Talk-us] MapQuest release 3 new APIs / tools - XAPI (JXAPI), NPI (new!), Broken Poly tool (new!)

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 10:58 AM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hello all, MapQuest has pushed out three new developer tools for OSM. Hopefully you will find them useful. Full details are here on the developer blog: http://devblog.mapquest.com/2011/04/07/xapi-npi-broken_polygons/ but to summarize:

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 01:00 PM, James Mast wrote: I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for all. Which ref tag setup do you think should be used for State Highways on ways (not relations)? PA-44 or 44. The reason I'm asking is because I've seen several people

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 02:03 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: I think ref=OK 20;AR 42 (or equally ref=AR 42;OK 20) is the appropriate tag there. Though a ref with two different states involved is fairly rare, about the only spot I can think of where that would apply offhand would be WA 500 if they ever start

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 03:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard. For other states, I usually don't tag without a prefix. I certainly don't make it go

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 02:11 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:03:25PM -0500, Nathan Mills wrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:11:49 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 2:00 PM, James Mast wrote: I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/08/2011 07:16 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Yeah... consensus would be great but seems to be rather elusive. Here is a case in point. Another mapper has been tagging ways on Kansas highways as K-xx which is how people usually pronounce it. Street signs usually just have the number inside of

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On 04/09/2011 07:41 AM, Craig Hinners wrote: So it's clear from the responses that there are differing needs here: * Due to regional differences, displaying the two-letter USPS code in the shield is not necessarily desirable. For example, there are states where SR is more

Re: [Talk-us] default to potlatch 1?

2011-04-09 Thread Val Kartchner
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 02:23 -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Val Kartchner wrote: I can confirm that this is still happening. Fixed now. Thanks for the reports. Richard Richard, It has been fixed. I'm back to using Potlatch 2 again. Thanks. - Val -

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-09 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-09 11:02, Paul Johnson wrote: On 04/08/2011 11:47 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: I would omit the hyphen as CA 247 for consistency sake. I'm not sure which post this referred to. My understanding of the discussion on this subject was that people agree that the hyphen is necessary to join