[Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, The final phase of the license changeover to the Open Database License[1] from our current CC-BY-SA is drawing near. From April 1[2], current OpenStreetMap data will only be available under the new license. This means that all data that was contributed by those who did not agree to the

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Mike N
On 1/13/2012 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Remap data that remains at risk of being removed, following the guidelines on the wiki (see links below). Assuming that the April 1 delete is a smart delete, is it better to wait until afterward? I'm thinking of this - 1 TIGER - agreer 2

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 1/13/2012 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Remap data that remains at risk of being removed, following the guidelines on the wiki (see links below). Assuming that the April 1 delete is a smart delete, is it better to

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 1/13/2012 12:39 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote: I agree that it makes more sense to clean up the map after the deletes from the license change have taken affect. Except that the April Fools change will not preserve a lot of the additions (if a non-agreer splits a way, and you add a maxspeed, how is

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Josh Doe
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: There are several things we can do together to minimize the data loss and ensure a smooth changeover to the new license: * Contact mappers who have declined or not agreed yet. I've heard this theme over and over again,

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 1/13/2012 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Remap data that remains at risk of being removed, following the guidelines on the wiki (see links below).

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: [ ... ] it makes more sense to clean up the map after the deletes from the license change have taken affect. I disagree. It's always better to go mapping than to not go mapping. That's the core value of OSM; improve the

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 1/13/2012 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Remap data that remains at risk of being removed, following the guidelines on the wiki (see links below).

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I will even pre-emptively delete stuff that I know would otherwise get deleted automatically, because that way I am in control, I see what happens,

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:44:30PM -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote: I do that too. There is of course a small chance of the decliner changing his or her mind, so I only delete data that is tainted by a decliner that I have personally been in touch with about the license change and my best

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:44:30PM -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote: I do that too. There is of course a small chance of the decliner changing his or her mind, so I only delete data that is tainted by a decliner that I have

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Mike N
On 1/13/2012 4:50 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Speaking of, has anyone talked to balrog-kun yet? I know he was at one point insanely prolific and I often stumble across his data, he's currently a decliner. I don't have a clue what the below statement means, since he hasn't said he'll make his

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
If you really want to understand this you will need to ask a lawyer. or start a discussen on talk-legal to me it looks like some political game and splitting hairs about some of the CT details. Considering balrog-kun has a new account where CT is accepted and this declaration then all the

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 13 January 2012 22:50, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:44:30PM -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote: I do that too. There is of course a small chance of the decliner changing his or her mind, so I only delete data that is tainted by a decliner that I have

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 14 January 2012 01:19, Andrew Cleveland evil.salt...@gmail.com wrote: So every TIGER way in the western US will require the odbl=clean tag? No, the bot edits are assumed by LWG to not deserve protection, plus additionally all the related changesets are on Frederik Ramm's whitelist which I