Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

2013-11-07 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.11.2013 06:20, schrieb Bryce Cogswell: I have to agree with Jason on this as well. Admin borders are some of the most important cartographic information on the planet, to the extent that wars are fought over them, and are easily verified through dozens of independent sources. To exclude

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/7 Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com It's the other way around, really. We're adjusting our routing logic to adapt to OSM. Referring to the wiki, a service road is 'Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park,

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

2013-11-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/7 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org I would not dispute at all that administrative boundaries are an important component of any map. OSM is not really just a map though - it is a database you can make a map out of among many other things, and a very unique database at that: one created

[Talk-us] Fwd: [okgis] 2013 Ortho Photos Available for Download

2013-11-07 Thread Paul Johnson
This came across from the Oklahoma Conservation Commission minutes ago. -- Forwarded message -- From: Shellie Willoughby shellie.willoug...@conservation.ok.gov Date: Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: [okgis] 2013 Ortho Photos Available for Download To: ok...@gis.ou.edu

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread stevea
Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com writes: It turns out that this happens because some of the access roads to these ferries are tagged as highway=service, sometimes service=driveway. For various reasons we don't want to route folks through service roads, so this poses a challenge. Here's

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2013-11-05

2013-11-07 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

[Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
See my diary entry, http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/20338 The Battle Grid is now colored based on where many people drive, instead of simply urban / rural according to census CDP boundaries. Happy mapping! -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: See my diary entry, http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/20338 The Battle Grid is now colored based on where many people drive, instead of simply urban / rural according to census CDP boundaries. Thanks for the

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: A very big +1 to this. Posing a challenge to the construction of an accurate routing algorithm is a poor excuse to propose rippling through data changes for what would essentially be a one-off convenience. Greg Troxel's

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013, at 06:30 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I disagree that we are making one-off change. What we are doing is making the map more useful. When adding an access ramp to a motorway we call it a motorway link. The waiting area for ferries is a similar feature of a ferry route. It

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Unfortunately the Census is often wrong. I hope they are paying attention to the work we are doing. Too bad they're forbidden from incorporating it directly from OSM. :-| d. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-11-07 Thread stevea
OK, Clifford, I take your point very well. It may not be one-off, but when routing algorithms chase data in this way, we CAN say it comes close to tagging for the algorithm and is therefore to be discouraged. But this might be considered a sharpening up of the data in a perfectly valid way

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Would be cool to get this as a JOSM plugin so we can see what's up at a glance, particularly when we have a GPX overlaid. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: See my diary entry, http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/20338 The Battle Grid is now

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Interesting you should ask :) It should come as no surprise that we have tons of GPS traces. The new battle grid coloring is based on them. For all kinds of reasons, both legal and strategic, we have been reluctant in sharing the actual traces, and I don't think it will come to that solely based

Re: [Talk-us] Battle Grid new improved

2013-11-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
I am actually sitting down with Census geo folks tomorrow to talk about this very topic! I will let you all know what comes of that. I am eager to start working together with them more closely. Stay tuned. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: Unfortunately