OK, Clifford, I take your point very well. It may not be one-off, but when routing algorithms chase data in this way, we CAN say it comes close to "tagging for the algorithm" and is therefore to be discouraged. But this might be considered a sharpening up of the data in a perfectly valid way which also supports routing algorithms.

How about a sane tagging scheme that will capture highway=ferry_link similar to highway=motorway_link? That's off-the-cuff, but might be enough. I think there was talk of this (or something similar) earlier, I'd have to go back in the threads and look.

Concomitantly, routing algorithms can and should pay attention to said tagging scheme.

SteveA
California


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM, stevea <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

A very big +1 to this. "Posing a challenge" to the construction of an accurate routing algorithm is a poor excuse to propose rippling through data changes for what would essentially be a one-off convenience. Greg Troxel's suggestion about regular->service->regular and regular->service->ferry sounds perfectly reasonable and can certainly be made to work for this particular case. Inside of a routing algorithm is exactly where this sort of decision-making belongs, not by making data changes that are more convenient for it.


I disagree that we are making one-off change. What we are doing is making the map more useful. When adding an access ramp to a motorway we call it a motorway link. The waiting area for ferries is a similar feature of a ferry route. It certainly isn't a service road except in a broad sense. There was agreement to tag the service=ferry to solve the problem. That wasn't my first choice but it works.

There is a push in OSM to include addresses. One of the big advantages we gain is the ability to route from door to door. For that we need ferry routing. Living in an area with one of the largest ferry systems in the world[1], I appreciate efforts to solve the problem.
[1] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Ferries>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Ferries
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Clifford
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