Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-29 Thread stevea
it is not clear if the new way is actually better, at least the current data stats show that mappers still prefer the old method, at least for bus stops, as it is simpler (you need just one tag highway=bus_stop instead of two: public_transport=platform and bus=yes, for the same information

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com wrote: Having recently moved to Red Lodge, Montana, I'm trying to update some of the map data around here, as a lot of it is untouched TIGER data that seems to be fairly imaginative. Just south of town, US-212 is

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 03.11.2014 um 16:03 schrieb Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: seems access=seasonal isn't in wide use but would be correct I think that this is not so nice tagging as it doesn't say anything about which

Re: [Talk-us] zip-city mappings

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Also note that Census ZIPs are somewhat fluid, as are postal ZIPs, and postal ZIPs don't cover the entire country, and postal ZIPs are based on carrier routes and not an area. On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/9/14 3:10 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: So, a couple of questions: 1. What, exactly, is fair game to change to a state abbreviation reference? Fair game nationwide, two letter state abbreviations should be used for the primary state highway network. 2.

Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
We have a similar convention in the US for doing that, though usually requires tagging traffic_sign=maxspeed, maxspeed=?? mph in a few places, since there's often multiple steps from rural speeds to town speeds when entering a town or city (Oklahoma sense; Oregon would call anything incorporated

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
From the Wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging “The two letter abbreviation for the state per the United States Postal Service's https://www.usps.com/send/official-abbreviations.htm state abbreviation list, another abbreviation used by the state (such as SR for

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm going to say that the wiki is presently wrong compared to consensus previously arrived at on the tagging list regarding this issue the last 971151183 times that this has come up, largely as a result of previous efforts by NE2 to game the renderer... On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Dave

[Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?

2014-11-29 Thread Jack Burke
Howdy, I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding directional suffixes to road names. Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, both in incorporated areas as well as outside city limits. Usually all areas in the county use the same

Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?

2014-11-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 11/29/2014 10:39 PM, Jack Burke wrote: Howdy, I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding directional suffixes to road names. Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, both in incorporated areas as well as outside city limits. Usually

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
Please forgive me I’m not trying to stir things up. I’m new to OSM and trying to learn and I don’t have any idea what the NE2 you refer to is. I understand that a lot of things are tagged different then what I would think do to standards. I understand that and I’m doing everything I can to

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Dave Mansfield mansfie...@chartermi.net wrote: Please forgive me I’m not trying to stir things up. I’m new to OSM and trying to learn and I don’t have any idea what the NE2 you refer to is. Glossing past this since it's extensively in the archives at this

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
Thanks! It makes sense the way you explain it. I was looking at it as a name of the route and thinking it should me the same as signs etc. But not the fact that routing engines and renderers will know it’s a state highway based on the state abbreviation. Dave From: Paul Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-29 19:31, Dave Mansfield wrote: From the Wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging “The two letter abbreviation for the state per the United States Postal Service's state abbreviation list https://www.usps.com/send/official-abbreviations.htm, another

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-29 21:27, Dave Mansfield wrote: It makes sense the way you explain it. I was looking at it as a name of the route and thinking it should me the same as signs etc. But not the fact that routing engines and renderers will know it’s a state highway based on the state abbreviation. Do

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:21 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: Do any routing engines currently care about prefixes on way refs? From what I've seen so far, most of the map styles that use the ref tag to distinguish route networks will recognize either the state abbreviation, SR, or SH. Some

Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?

2014-11-29 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding directional suffixes to road names. Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, both in incorporated areas as well as outside

Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?

2014-11-29 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:43 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: An additional complication is ring-roads, which are likely to have XXX North transition into XXX East, etc. In Houston, it gets even weirder, going clockwise around the I-610 feeder roads: North Loop West, North Loop East, East Loop